What a scumbag government Australia has!
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greggerypeccary
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Shellandshilo1956
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That is just the beginning Pink. QR Codes. Isn't it the right of every Australian to come and go without being tracked?
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Both ... people are wary of the Astra Zenicas vaccine, which is the one our governemnt had banked on before the blood clot issues were known and had in the pipe line to do most of the work. .....the public now don't trust AZ and are reluctant to have their shots, we don't have enough doses of phizer to take up the role the Astra Zenica was supposed to take ....
Athough that has apparently just changed in the last couple of days with the govt. announcing a new deal with phizer
What a miserable lying scumbag prime minister we have ...he's been on TV claiming all the glory the last few days for bringing forward the delivery of pfizer, and now it's come out it had nothing to do with him. It was all the work of a senior aussie businessman in the US and former PM Kevin Rudd
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07...-pfizer-vaccine-supply-senior-execs/100284902
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-07...-pfizer-vaccine-supply-senior-execs/100284902
Shellandshilo1956
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More on the Covid-19 Apocalypse, that has killed no one in Australia since Oct. 5th 2020.
Lets see, lies, half-truths, fines and imprisonment, building internment(quarantine) camps for all those testing positive, house and business checks, hiring international thugs to enforce health regulations, forcing people to downloads locator apps before entering a business, forcing businesses to close down, and contribute to an already rising unemployment. Now vaccine passports(ID cards), that forces citizens to prove that they have been vaccinated. Or they can't leave the country. Really? What does the government do with all this information? How is it secured? Who has access to it? So many security and privacy issues to be considered.
Everything I said that was going to happen, IS HAPPENING!! The only thing worse than the abuse of government, is the apathy, complacency, and ignorance of its sheep. Fortunately, many are waking up and looking at the facts, that just don't add up. People who love this country, and still remember when it was free, are doing something about it. These cowardly bastards are out!!! They are laughing at you, and you're to stupid to see it.
Now we have Australians turning against Australians, and States turning against States. NOW, If we want to to the freedoms we had post Covid-19 Apocalypse, we must do whatever the government tells us to do.
As I've said before, what will it take to cut this umbilical cord legally? And to start thinking beyond the spoon-feed disinformation of paid actors, and people with their own vested interests? An angle grinder?
Lets see, lies, half-truths, fines and imprisonment, building internment(quarantine) camps for all those testing positive, house and business checks, hiring international thugs to enforce health regulations, forcing people to downloads locator apps before entering a business, forcing businesses to close down, and contribute to an already rising unemployment. Now vaccine passports(ID cards), that forces citizens to prove that they have been vaccinated. Or they can't leave the country. Really? What does the government do with all this information? How is it secured? Who has access to it? So many security and privacy issues to be considered.
Everything I said that was going to happen, IS HAPPENING!! The only thing worse than the abuse of government, is the apathy, complacency, and ignorance of its sheep. Fortunately, many are waking up and looking at the facts, that just don't add up. People who love this country, and still remember when it was free, are doing something about it. These cowardly bastards are out!!! They are laughing at you, and you're to stupid to see it.
Now we have Australians turning against Australians, and States turning against States. NOW, If we want to to the freedoms we had post Covid-19 Apocalypse, we must do whatever the government tells us to do.
As I've said before, what will it take to cut this umbilical cord legally? And to start thinking beyond the spoon-feed disinformation of paid actors, and people with their own vested interests? An angle grinder?
From the link above:That is just the beginning Pink. QR Codes. Isn't it the right of every Australian to come and go without being tracked?
Thanks to idiot antivaxxers measles epidemics not only occur again but cause deaths of unvaxxed children! If you start reading a bit about US civil war armies you will soon read of the ravages of disease including measles and the number of civil war deaths due to “harmless childhood diseases!”
Shellandshilo1956
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That is his opinion. There are at least 14 childhood diseases that a newborn would need to be vaccinated against, for the first 4-6 years of its life. An infant has its own immune system(Thymus gland), and develops some immunities through its mother's milk. However, for some of the more dangerous childhood diseases, a child should be vaccinated. I have no problem with those mothers who choose to vaccinate their children(or those who choose not to). This is their right, and only they must live with their decisions. However, I do have a problem with those who stigmatize, shame, and vilify those mothers who chose not to vaccinate.
These people are no different than those religious fanatics, and anti-abortionists, that want to control the mother's reproductive right to choose. These people are NOT going to raise the child the mother doesn't want. Are they? It is the mother that must raise the child, and live with any decisions she makes. NOT these people. Measles is caused by a virus. And, is not alive. Therefore, like the common cold virus, it will return. Vaccinations don't prevent anyone from being infected by any virus or bacterium. It simple allows the immune system to recognize, and attack the antigens earlier.
Firstly, these childhood diseases are NOT "harmless". Secondly, your comparison is a false equivalence fallacy. Soldiers died in the civil war(mostly from dysentery), because ANTIBIOTICS AND VACCINATIONS WEREN'T DISCOVERED YET. Most soldiers died from the infections(bacterial and viral) that followed treatment of their wounds. Conditions in these makeshift battle hospitals were insanitary and unhygienic. They were the perfect breeding grounds for viruses and bacteria. Twice as many soldiers died from disease, than from their battle wounds. Had antibiotics and vaccines been discovered, these deaths would certainly have been reduced. IMHO
Shellandshilo1956
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Right. 1.5% of the total civil war deaths, was from measles. Which has nothing to do with antivaxxers.
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WTF? There is a measles vaxx and those who profess to fear vaccination deny to their children, some of whom have died from measles.
Shellandshilo1956
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Wow. In 281 days(9.23 months), a woman in her 90's, has died from Covid-19 related complications. I guess with a total of 566 cases during this new outbreak in NSW(0.007% of the population), it is truly a time to panic. We should certainly build more quarantine centers, implement even harsher lockdowns, keep people wearing masks and distancing indefinitely, close down more businesses, and keep all borders closed. Protect the 99.993% of the population at all costs? What is wrong with you? Are Australians all sheep being herded? Let your representatives know just how much you value your freedoms. Let them know that they are out, if they don't end this nonsense. Let them know that they all work for you, and that Australians are not ignorant sheep.
WTF? What are you talking about? Of course there are early viral vaccines TODAY! And, of course there are people who choose NOT to vaccinate their kids, for whatever their reasons are. Who has said that there wasn't? No one! So why the "WTF" nonsense?
You were trying to compare the the casualties of the Civil War, due to disease(including measles), to the choices made by anti vaxxers. My point was that this is silly, since antibiotics and vaccinations didn't even exist back in 1861.
So you must be talking to your strawman. Because Anti-vaxxers had nothing to do with the Civil War casualties.
you do understand that that result is so low BECAUSE of the measures taken .... right?
Shellandshilo1956
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Spoken like a true government clone. No, I don't KNOW if that self-serving convenient rationale is correct at all. Especially, when the Covid-19 stats were so low before the lockdown began, compared to after the lockdown. It is a more likely scenario, that as more and more people recovered from the virus, less and less people could be infected by the virus. Also, because the evidence has consistently proven, that all of these measures are ineffective, and impossible to police. This government has caused more damage to the people, and the economy, than the virus ever could.
For the government, it was always a win-win. If the Covid-19 cases and deaths increased, they could always blame the people for not following their policies. If the Covid-19 cases and deaths went down, they would then take all the credit for their policies for stopping this viral apocalypse.
I won't bother asking again for any objective proof, or any verifiable causality links from you, because we both know where that will lead.
So, I'll simply disagree with you and the crap your masters are telling you to parrot. And, I won't waste more time and space providing more evidence, for you to just deny and dismiss, and deposit nothing.
Maybe compliancy, and obedience is your forté.
no, I suppose that would require logical thought ... of which you are bereft
Shellandshilo1956
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How would you know, since you've never had one? I've come to expect nothing less than the same sad empty retorts from you John. Maybe you should listen to what more people like you are saying!!
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