A quick google search for that question revealed that people with heart issues should get the vaccine.
Most of us in NSW. One daughter’s family in Vic.
Are any of the Vic family unable to be vaccinated due to medical conditions? I was thinking about the insane vaccine mandates over there. Surely these people can get an exemption.
Sorry Seth, this is just more misinformation. We have had this disease for over 22 months, so NOT a short time. And, using that timeline it would take over 13 years for the entire population to be infected.
WHY?? You are a perfect example that proves that being vaccinated does NOT prevent you from being infected. Had you NOT been vaccinated, you may have still experienced the same SAME outcome. You have no idea if your mild symptoms were because you were vaccinated, or in spite of it, do you? Many unvaccinated people have also claim very mild, or very little symptoms at all. This is just another assumption you're making.
Seth, we do not have any drugs to fight any viruses directly. The problem is that viruses are different to bacteria. Antibiotics can only destroy prokaryotes(bacteria), and NOT human Eukaryotes. Viruses are neither Eukaryotes or Prokaryotes. Bacteria attack the cell from the outside, and does not use the cell's DNA to replicate itself. Viruses attack the cells from the inside, and will reprogram the cell to start making new viruses. How does any treatment target an unusual cellular activity? How can any treatment target something that is inside of the cell? Anything that you add that is foreign to the body, will be attacked by the body! Unless you suppress the immune response. But this will defeat the entire purpose.
www.mayoclinic.org
These people are taking an INFORMED RISK! Not just completely trusting whatever the pharmaceutical companies tell the government to tell us. If you did your research, you would never take another of these types of vaccines in your life. And, if you did, it would only the better of the two evils. And, if we go down the road of trying to tailor our natural immune system, we will eventually have no natural antibodies to respond to any pathogens. And, our species will end.
How do masks protect unvaccinated more than vaccinated people?? Do masks know the difference? NOTHING CAN PROTECT YOU FROM BEING INFECTED BY ANY VIRUS!! And, certainly not a silly piece of cloth/paper covering your face. Also, if catching Covid-19 is inevitable, then what is the point of wearing masks, period??
If you have developed natural antibodies to the natural real SARS-CoV-2 virus, then these natural antibodies won't give a shit about any variant of this pathogen. These are our broad-spectrum antibodies, that will attack ALL viruses. Including any of their variants. I think that it is the naturally acquired unvaccinated recovered victims, who have EVEN LESS to fear from Covid-19.
If you really want these things to happen, then do something about it. Write, email, text, leave messages, phone, or speak directly to your representative. And, repeat after me,
www.sbs.com.au
www.news.com.au
My granddaughter is an 8 year old cancer patient. She’s been receiving chemotherapy for the best part of 9 months. Her immune system is shot, so the vaccine is of no use for now. The family has virtually sealed itself off from the world in the interim, save for visits to the hospital…
And the only things “insane” in Victoria are the mouth-breathing morons who take to the streets shouting the conspiracy theory slogans they’ve copied from similar cretins in the US….
You agree with the vaccine mandates?
On my phone, so I’m going to respond to you addressing your replies starting from the first to the last.Sorry Seth, this is just more misinformation. We have had this disease for over 22 months, so NOT a short time. And, using that timeline it would take over 13 years for the entire population to be infected.
Let's just look at the facts, as of 7/10/21.
United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.www.worldometers.info
44,918,565 Total Covid-19 Cases since 19 Jan 2020 in the US
34,392,326 Total cases of those recovered from Covid-19 in the US.
727,710 Total number of people who have died from Covid-19 in the US
If we just ignore the fact that the more and more people WHO ARE infected with Covid-19, would mean the more and more people who will recover from Covid-19. Therefore, the less and less people that CAN become infected. Therefore, assuming that everyone will become infected is not logical or rational. It is just a faulty assumption, that assumes herd immunity doesn't exists. But lets run with this assumption. How long will it take for everyone to become infected, based only on the KNOWN variables?
333,437,210 population of the US(as of Oct. 4th) x 22 months / 44,918,565 total infected = 163 months. Or, just over 13 years. So, if everything(including nature) remains constant, in 13 years every man woman, and child will have been infected with Covid-19. Sorry this is not how nature, or natural selection works.
WHY?? You are a perfect example that proves that being vaccinated does NOT prevent you from being infected. Had you NOT been vaccinated, you may have still experienced the same SAME outcome. You have no idea if your mild symptoms were because you were vaccinated, or in spite of it, do you? Many unvaccinated people have also claim very mild, or very little symptoms at all. This is just another assumption you're making.
Seth, we do not have any drugs to fight any viruses directly. The problem is that viruses are different to bacteria. Antibiotics can only destroy prokaryotes(bacteria), and NOT human Eukaryotes. Viruses are neither Eukaryotes or Prokaryotes. Bacteria attack the cell from the outside, and does not use the cell's DNA to replicate itself. Viruses attack the cells from the inside, and will reprogram the cell to start making new viruses. How does any treatment target an unusual cellular activity? How can any treatment target something that is inside of the cell? Anything that you add that is foreign to the body, will be attacked by the body! Unless you suppress the immune response. But this will defeat the entire purpose.
COVID-19 drugs: Are there any that work?
Many treatments are being studied for COVID-19. Only one drug has been approved — an antiviral drug called remdesivir.
All treatments will address the symptoms, not the disease. They will address the inflammation, the bacterial infections, or the immune response itself. Remember, it is NOT the virus that will kill you. It is your immune response. Antibiotic drugs(amoxicillin, erythromycin and ciprofloxacin) will address the bacteria infections. Anti-inflammation drugs(Aspirin, Ibuprofen, Celecoxib, etc.) will address the inflammation. And, immuno-suppressant drugs(Steroids, Corticosteroids, Prednisolone, Cyclosporine, Tacrolimus, etc.) will address the immune response. But absolutely no treatment or drugs, will prevent anyone from being attacked, or from catching the common cold virus, let alone the SARS-CoV-2 virus!!!
These people are taking an INFORMED RISK! Not just completely trusting whatever the pharmaceutical companies tell the government to tell us. If you did your research, you would never take another of these types of vaccines in your life. And, if you did, it would only the better of the two evils. And, if we go down the road of trying to tailor our natural immune system, we will eventually have no natural antibodies to respond to any pathogens. And, our species will end.
How do masks protect unvaccinated more than vaccinated people?? Do masks know the difference? NOTHING CAN PROTECT YOU FROM BEING INFECTED BY ANY VIRUS!! And, certainly not a silly piece of cloth/paper covering your face. Also, if catching Covid-19 is inevitable, then what is the point of wearing masks, period??
If you have developed natural antibodies to the natural real SARS-CoV-2 virus, then these natural antibodies won't give a shit about any variant of this pathogen. These are our broad-spectrum antibodies, that will attack ALL viruses. Including any of their variants. I think that it is the naturally acquired unvaccinated recovered victims, who have EVEN LESS to fear from Covid-19.
If you really want these things to happen, then do something about it. Write, email, text, leave messages, phone, or speak directly to your representative. And, repeat after me,
"ENJOY WHAT POWER YOU THINK YOU HAVE NOW. BECAUSE YOU ARE GONE AT THE NEXT ELECTION! ANY MORON WHO WILL PURPOSELY DESTROY THE LIVES OF PEOPLE, OR IS DUMB ENOUGH TO THINK THAT MAN CAN PHYSICALLY PROTECT HIMSELF FROM A VIRUS, IS JUST A FUCKING IDIOT. I WANT SOMEONE TO REPRESENT ME, WHO CAN ACTUALLY THINK FOR HIMSELF, AND NOT JUST ABOUT HIMSELF!!".
I don’t know about that, John. Under this Administration, anything is possible. Stay tuned.
Indeed I do.
You agree with vaccine mandates, even when members
Correct….and so do they. After all, the more people who are vaccinated, the greater overall community protection from the virus. Herd immunity is just about all my granddaughter can rely upon at the moment, apart from isolation…
Will those members of your family be able to get an exemption?
They already have.
Personally, I'd say that over a decade was more later than sooner. But, I think that this point is more mute than relative. The point I was making, was that it would be IMPOSSIBLE for everyone to become infected with this virus. Sooner or later!! Nature just doesn't work like that.
ANYTHING you do could be considered slowing down the spread of this virus. INCLUDING HOLDING YOUR BREATH, 3 times a day But is it a practical solution for preventing, or spreading this disease? Absolutely not. This phrase has no real meaning!
We are NOT talking about the most lethal virus here. This is NOT HIV/Aids, dengue fever, smallpox, or the Ebola virus. This isn't even the original SARS virus. All are much more lethal than this mutated less-lethal form of SARS.
Since over 80% of those over 65 DO actually recover from this illness, the risk is an informed and relatively safe risk. The condition of our immune system is also based on other factors. NOT JUST AGE!! For those who are at extreme risk, being vaccinated is only an adjunct treatment. And, IMHO, will only weaken their immune system even further. Hence why many doctors advise against the critically ill being vaccinated.
Totally agree. But It is NOT about simply voting against them. It is more important, that they know WHY you are voting against them. Your message will resonate as a warning, throughout these moron's political circles. Your message will be heard and understood, loud and clear. Politicians are just overpaid actors playing a role. That's all. The everyday running of the government will continue without them. It is civil servants who run the government. Trump's entire tenure proves this. It is WE the people who are turning these over-paid actors into celebrities, NOT the government.
