White Americans have a lot to atone for in their violent racist oppression of blacks

Squire

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I watched the horror movie them on Prime video which was a story about a black family in a white suburb in the 1950s.

From the day of their arrival in the white suburb, the black family was subjected to violent oppression to make their life a nightmare.

The horror stories of racism need to be told to shame white Americans for the crimes of their fathers and their current crimes.

Reparations are just a start.

American evangelicals were the worst offenders of violence and racism.
 

Texan

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I haven't oppressed anybody. Go suck an egg. What crimes did your father commit? When will you pay for them?
 

SethBullock

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I'm with Texan. I have never oppressed or discriminated against a black person, and I am not responsible for the sins of my ancestors.

As a matter of fact, my ancestors were northern farmers and tradesmen in a region of the country that rejected slavery and fought against it.
 

Squire

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Texan, and Seth Bullock, maybe you people are just not aware how your conduct affects others.

Seth Bullock fighting against slavery doesn't automatically qualify your forebears as opponents of racism. Maybe they were just fighting according to geographical loyalty rather than any opposition to slavery.

What is evident from your responses is that they are defensive and have no evidence to back up your arguments.

American Christians are the most fervent and extreme racists.
 

SethBullock

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Texan, and Seth Bullock, maybe you people are just not aware how your conduct affects others.

Seth Bullock fighting against slavery doesn't automatically qualify your forebears as opponents of racism. Maybe they were just fighting according to geographical loyalty rather than any opposition to slavery.

What is evident from your responses is that they are defensive and have no evidence to back up your arguments.

American Christians are the most fervent and extreme racists.
Maybe you would like to tell me how my conduct affects others.
 

DreamRyderX

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American Christians are the most fervent and extreme racists.
Your words are dead words....dead from being overused & being overplayed....Call me what you please, it bothers me not......I'm proud of what I am, & I'm forever proud of ALL my ancestors.....whatever they may have done, & how they may have treated anyone or anything.......ever. I apologize for absolutely nothing.........period....






A person, in order to be or feel offended, must first give their permission before they can be offended.....otherwise it is impossible for them to be offended.


God Bless The United States of AMERICA!!!............



Does that offend you?



 
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Squire

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Your words are dead words....dead from being overused & being overplayed....Call me what you please, it bothers me not......I'm proud of what I am, & I'm forever proud of ALL my ancestors.....whatever they may have done, & how they may have treated anyone or anything.......ever. I apologize for absolutely nothing.........period....









A person, in order to be or feel offended, must first give their permission before they can be offended.....otherwise it is impossible for them to be offended.


God Bless The United States of AMERICA!!!............







Does that offend you?
The existence of you and your bigoted ilk is slowly being rendered irrelevant by the growth of knowledge of hate crimes in the history of the USA.

You are well on your way to becoming one of the minorities in your own country.

White American procreation rates are declining relative to non-whites.

It may even happen in your lifetime if you are not geriatric.
 

Squire

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Texan and Seth Bullock, give till it hurts and then some.

$14 Trillion is being mooted for reparations to blacks which would amount to $300,000 to each black person and would cost each White person about $60,000 each.

Is it enough for the centuries of crimes against blacks?

Perhaps this amount is just for slavery and more is deserved for murder, violence, hatred, oppression, and for exclusion from the economy before widespread acceptance of blacks into white society if even such a thing exists even this day.

It is self-evident that geriatric, evangelical, crackers should pay a greater share of reparations.
 
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Texan

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Texan, and Seth Bullock, maybe you people are just not aware how your conduct affects others.
Why don't you point out exactly where Seth's or my conduct has affected anyone in a wacist manner? Or you can keep yammering like an idiot.
 

johnsmith

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Squire, you really need to stop making your attacks so personal. Bitch about Americans all you like if that's what you want to do ........ just don't try to pin your complaints to Tex or Seth.
 

SethBullock

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A better idea is to stop trying to divide Americans by white and black.

All Americans who need a hand up should have that hand extended to them. That goes for blacks and whites and any American. A hand up is better than a handout.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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I watched the horror movie them on Prime video which was a story about a black family in a white suburb in the 1950s.

From the day of their arrival in the white suburb, the black family was subjected to violent oppression to make their life a nightmare.

The horror stories of racism need to be told to shame white Americans for the crimes of their fathers and their current crimes.

Reparations are just a start.

American evangelicals were the worst offenders of violence and racism.

You should hear the stories by Nat King Cole, Sammy Davis Jr., James Baldwin, Nina Simone, James Brown, BB King, Martin Luther King, Ray Charles, Billie Holliday, Sam Cooke, Tina Turner, The Temptations, Sarah Vaughan, and many many other world-famous Black Americans, about what it feels like to stare into the eyes of blind unfiltered hatred, just because you are Black. How it makes you feel to be treated with reviled, attacked, stereotyped, and ridiculed because you were not by choice, born Black. Racism and bigotry is a rape of the mind, and may take generations to weed out completely. Although, it not as obvious as in the Jim Crow era, we still see it in its more subtle form. "Legal Discrimination". And, is expressed in all areas of society(education, employment, sports, politics, religion, housing, banking, etc.). Blacks were even blamed for the recession.


Although, Whites today will always resolve themselves of blame. Just as Bigots will always deny that they are just dumb bigots and racists. I am ashamed of my race, and the emotional, financial, and psychological harm they have done, and are still doing to an entire race. This is NOT just about those Whites who directly took part in the lynchings, beatings, hangings, arresting, enslavements, and all the other gross injustices towards Black Americans. This is about ALL THOSE WHO STOOD BY AND DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT!!! Their cowardly inactions in the face of injustices, was the source that enabled bigotry and racism to continue. If the people denying involvement NOW, would have been involved then, they would have nothing to be denying now. It is hypocritical that these are the same people, who go to church, pray to a loving God, and harbour nothing but hatred for their fellow Americans.

I may be ashamed of my race, but not of myself. I have spoken out all my life, against all injustices, including racism. I have also paid the price numerous times. I have nothing but respect for those people who have laid down their lives, by actually "putting some skin in the game", to fight for the rights of those who can't fight for themselves. Blacks don't have the power of anonymity, like Whites.

When I hear the same tired old cliché, "I am not responsible for the actions of my ancestors", I cringe in disbelief. It is about what you didn't do. Do you think racism and bigotry only existed in a vacuum? Because of inaction, little pushback, and tacit approval by Whites, this insidious evil was allowed to grow and become the acceptable norm. Especially, in a society that brags about its freedom. You are just as guilty as those in the crowd cheering the lynching on. Cheering each time the retarded Black youth with his balls cut off, was raised and lowered over the burning fire. Or, those White jurors who sentenced a 14 yo Black boy to death by execution. A Black kid who never had a clue what was happening to him, and later was proven to be innocent.

I agree. Blacks do deserve reparations, as a start.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Whenever a White person makes a comments like, "Blacks commit over 50% of the murders in the US", without checking their facts, or giving any perspective, they are making a racists and discriminatory comment. Whenever a White person makes the comment, that "most Black families are single-parent families.". Again, without context(parents are simply unwed, but both are usually present), the comment is racists and stereotypic. Saying that Blacks disproportionately commit more crimes than Whites, ignores the difference in treatment of Blacks( and other minorities), unfortunate enough to enter the White criminals justice system.

These are just some of the comments I have heard, that I definitely find offensive. This also includes those who agree with these comments.
 

SethBullock

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Whenever a White person makes a comments like, "Blacks commit over 50% of the murders in the US", without checking their facts, or giving any perspective, they are making a racists and discriminatory comment. Whenever a White person makes the comment, that "most Black families are single-parent families.". Again, without context(parents are simply unwed, but both are usually present), the comment is racists and stereotypic. Saying that Blacks disproportionately commit more crimes than Whites, ignores the difference in treatment of Blacks( and other minorities), unfortunate enough to enter the White criminals justice system.

These are just some of the comments I have heard, that I definitely find offensive. This also includes those who agree with these comments.
It depends on the context and intent. If a person is just trying to denigrate a race for the sake of denigrating the race, then the reason is just racism.

However, if it is made with the intent of starting a discussion as to how to fix the problem, it isn't.
 

Squire

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It depends on the context and intent. If a person is just trying to denigrate a race for the sake of denigrating the race, then the reason is just racism.

However, if it is made with the intent of starting a discussion as to how to fix the problem, it isn't.
That means denigrating a race for other reasons is ok?

The problem is?

Can the problem ever be white supremacy or white privilege?

Centuries of exclusion of blacks from white society, the economy, and industry has created deep and extensive problems which cannot be fixed by blaming the black victims.

Reparations would be a nice first step.
 

Texan

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That means denigrating a race for other reasons is ok?

The problem is?

Can the problem ever be white supremacy or white privilege?

Centuries of exclusion of blacks from white society, the economy, and industry has created deep and extensive problems which cannot be fixed by blaming the black victims.

Reparations would be a nice first step.
Reparations for what? You have no idea how I have lived.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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It depends on the context and intent. If a person is just trying to denigrate a race for the sake of denigrating the race, then the reason is just racism.

However, if it is made with the intent of starting a discussion as to how to fix the problem, it isn't.
It doesn't matter what your motive, or intent is. Only you can know this. If the judge says, "Well she was asking for it, because of how she was dressed", in a rape case, it doesn't matter what his motive or intent was. It only matters what he said. When you tell half-truths without context of perspective, you are guilty of at least a personal bias.

You(and those who agree with you), are telling people that Blacks commit over 50% of all murders in the US. This is what you want to believe, so you look no further. You do NOT say that these numbers only represent the number of Blacks CHARGED BY THE POLICE for the crimes, listed in the category of Murder and NON-NEGLIGENT MANSLAUGHTER. This doesn't mean that Blacks have been CONVICTED OR SENTENCED for any of these crimes. Does it? In fact most of these cases never go to court, and most are thrown out of court, because of lack of evidence. Without context or perspective, the perception is that over 50% of ALL murders(not non-negligent manslaughter) in America, are committed by Blacks. This is just a lie. And, lies will never fix a problem, or is a good way to start a discussion.

Telling people that Black families are single parent families, tends to imply that most Black children are raised by a single parent. Which also implies that the child's first society is the source of Black criminality. But in reality, most Black families are simply unwed parents because of poverty. But both parents play a role in raising the child. Infact, most Black families are more strict than White families. Again, no perspective or context. No factual comparison is made with White single parent families and crime. So, how does this promote an honest and truthful discussion? Or, help fix the problem?

These lies only legitimize an already false stereotype about Blacks. You are just providing the music that every bigot and racist wants to hear. They don't want to hear, that Whites are charged with more than twice the number of crimes, than all the crimes charged to Minorities combined. You are just preaching to the bigots and racists, and providing disinformation to those who may not be. So, again, your intentions are irrelevant. And, your comments are offensive based entirely on the facts. Which I have presented in earlier posts.
 
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Shellandshilo1956

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Reparations for what? You have no idea how I have lived.
He"'s already told you,

"Centuries of exclusion of blacks from white society, the economy, and industry has created deep and extensive problems which cannot be fixed by blaming the black victims.".

How you or me lived is irrelevant. Our problems was never directly caused by the fact that we are White. But Blacks were systematically being excluded from society, ONLY because they were Black. There were NO segregationist Jim Crow laws for Whites. There were NO "back of the bus", "Black only" water fountains for Whites. There were no Whites lynched in the South. Whites could go into Black communities anytime they liked. But, Blacks couldn't go into White communities, unless they were servants working there.

Blacks were clearly excluded from White society. How any White lives is irrelevant. With all the White Privileges' and White opportunities afforded to Whites, compared to Blacks, it is only Whites who are responsible for how you live. Blacks were never afford the same opportunities.

So, I agree, reparations is certainly a good start.
 

Squire

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Reparations for what? You have no idea how I have lived.
Give till it hurts and then some.

How you lived is irrelevant to people other than yourself and your dependents.

Nobody can make a living from studying Texan's life. Such a study would not take long, maybe half a lunch break.
 
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