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“Quaker guns”
In the Civil War the South, without the huge industry of the North, were not as well equipped. To disguise this quaker guns—logs shaped and painted to look like cannon—were used. Beauregard used them to disguise his withdrawal from Corinth. One such quaker gun was found on the south bank of the Potomac when the unit manning this “gun” was withdrawn.
In WWII Patton “lead” a force of “quaker” tanks etc—the successful attempt to trick Hitler into believing the “real” invasion was to be at Calais.
In the Civil War the South, without the huge industry of the North, were not as well equipped. To disguise this quaker guns—logs shaped and painted to look like cannon—were used. Beauregard used them to disguise his withdrawal from Corinth. One such quaker gun was found on the south bank of the Potomac when the unit manning this “gun” was withdrawn.
In WWII Patton “lead” a force of “quaker” tanks etc—the successful attempt to trick Hitler into believing the “real” invasion was to be at Calais.
Wow, I didn’t know this:
I played a trick on my Yankee brew buddies. Driving Mum to a family wedding I posted:
“Driving through New England” and when a couple bit I said “The New England part of NSW!” New England tried to become a separate state but it failed.
I would have thought somewhere in New England?
I played a trick on my Yankee brew buddies. Driving Mum to a family wedding I posted:
“Driving through New England” and when a couple bit I said “The New England part of NSW!” New England tried to become a separate state but it failed.
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Interesting! From what I have read, e.g. Grant’s campaign down the Tennessee, Cumberland and Mississipi Rivers all the way to the end in 1865 at the wharves at City Point near Petersburg, Va, the steam boats (and ships in the blue water navy) were all paddle boats, yet:
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War leads to political change and technological and medical advancement. HM of the space race was kickstarted by Werner von Braun when he moved to the US? I do not read the John Wayne type stuff.
Robert E. Lee was supposed to be a military genius. Yet he ordered 15,000 men to advance over a mile of fairly open ground to climb a hill then attack union soldiers behind a stone wall? Of Pickett’s division less than half came back, the rest killed, wounded or captured/missing. Colonels and Brigadier Generals were killed and the South had no way of replacing them.
Robert E. Lee was supposed to be a military genius. Yet he ordered 15,000 men to advance over a mile of fairly open ground to climb a hill then attack union soldiers behind a stone wall? Of Pickett’s division less than half came back, the rest killed, wounded or captured/missing. Colonels and Brigadier Generals were killed and the South had no way of replacing them.
It seems that some 50 years later, that sort of fruitless and insane strategy was still being used in WW1. Thousands and thousands of young men were sent out of the trenches on suicidal charges against entrenched machine guns. Those charges had zero chance of success and a 100% certainty of death or wounding.
YES! The English army had observers with both Eastern armies, saw the result of charging entrenched positions. . .yet did the same in WWI. With machine guns you would need 10 attackers for every defender (3:1 in Civil War with muzzleloaders!).
Big mine explosions—at Vicksburg and especially at Petersburg—didn’t work yet the Brits tried it and failed in WWI. (In the Petersburg mine a negro slave working on countermining was blown 200' into the air and landed —UNHURT— in union lines.)
Big mine explosions—at Vicksburg and especially at Petersburg—didn’t work yet the Brits tried it and failed in WWI. (In the Petersburg mine a negro slave working on countermining was blown 200' into the air and landed —UNHURT— in union lines.)
Here is a guy, lived in East Tennessee during the civil war, guided hundreds of Unionist men to the Union lines from rebel–occupied East Tennesee!
Like escaped POW stories except he would take a hundred or so men and even horses from northern East Tennessee first to Kentucky then to Knoxville then recuperate and rest then return to East Tennessee. The horses would be sold to the Union army for a profit. Daniel Ellis brought enough men to the Union lines to man a good part of the 13th Tennessee mounted infantry.
Lincoln and some others believed there was a large amount of union sentiment within the “secesh” but there wasn’t any except in East Tennesee and adjacent parts of west North Carolina and northern Georgia. Weird, the shelling of Fort Sumpter didn’t bother the people in the secesh but Lincoln asking for 90,000 90day volunteers to protect forts and arsenals was aggression, turned unionist parts of the South into red hot secessionists.
Thrilling adventures of Daniel Ellis, the great union guide of East Tennesee, during the rebellion.
Like escaped POW stories except he would take a hundred or so men and even horses from northern East Tennessee first to Kentucky then to Knoxville then recuperate and rest then return to East Tennessee. The horses would be sold to the Union army for a profit. Daniel Ellis brought enough men to the Union lines to man a good part of the 13th Tennessee mounted infantry.
Lincoln and some others believed there was a large amount of union sentiment within the “secesh” but there wasn’t any except in East Tennesee and adjacent parts of west North Carolina and northern Georgia. Weird, the shelling of Fort Sumpter didn’t bother the people in the secesh but Lincoln asking for 90,000 90day volunteers to protect forts and arsenals was aggression, turned unionist parts of the South into red hot secessionists.
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The Pentagon needs perpetual war to justify its existence.
The USA has fought against more countries than any other country has.
https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-are-the-only-3-countries-america-hasnt-invaded/#:~:text=According%20to%20Kelly%20and%20Laycock's,authors%20pose%20mixed%2C%20apolitical%20ideas.
The USA has fought against more countries than any other country has.
https://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/these-are-the-only-3-countries-america-hasnt-invaded/#:~:text=According%20to%20Kelly%20and%20Laycock's,authors%20pose%20mixed%2C%20apolitical%20ideas.
The Pentagon will do as it's told. What we need are clear-headed leaders who are not interested in the "regime change" war du jour and who will only use our military to defend ourselves and our closest, most longstanding allies.
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Then you need to rid yourself of the Pentagon and the CIA as well as all the secret black-ops contractors.