US police are inherently and arbitrarily violent apart from the racism and the white power influences

Squire

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The violent attitudes of US police needs to be eliminated before the police can be trusted by the public.

Any black person who is stopped by US police is at risk of death or severe injury, as are some white people.

The demand by US police that people get out of their car at traffic stops is a major source of conflict between police and their victims. Why don't the police just hand the victim a traffic offense ticket instead of initiating a violent confrontation.

The other violent act by police when arresting people is to compel or violently force them to lie on the ground with their hands behind their backs. There is no need for this when the victim is not resisting and if indeed the victim has done nothing and is arrested for resisting the police in a bogus police stop.

The crime of resisting the police should be taken off the statue books when the detainee has not committed an offense prior to resisting the police. It is only human for people to resist unjustified oppression by being arrested just because the police choose to do so.

Lies by police in their police reports should also be a crime. Whenever a cop publishes or utters an evidently false and willfully false statement that is criminal defamation and the cop should be prosecuted.
 

SethBullock

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The violent attitudes of US police needs to be eliminated before the police can be trusted by the public.

Any black person who is stopped by US police is at risk of death or severe injury, as are some white people.

The demand by US police that people get out of their car at traffic stops is a major source of conflict between police and their victims. Why don't the police just hand the victim a traffic offense ticket instead of initiating a violent confrontation.

The other violent act by police when arresting people is to compel or violently force them to lie on the ground with their hands behind their backs. There is no need for this when the victim is not resisting and if indeed the victim has done nothing and is arrested for resisting the police in a bogus police stop.

The crime of resisting the police should be taken off the statue books when the detainee has not committed an offense prior to resisting the police. It is only human for people to resist unjustified oppression by being arrested just because the police choose to do so.

Lies by police in their police reports should also be a crime. Whenever a cop publishes or utters an evidently false and willfully false statement that is criminal defamation and the cop should be prosecuted.
In my state of Oregon, you may charge a person with Resisting Arrest if they have been told that they are under arrest for a crime and they then physically resist. In Oregon, the police may not order you out of a car unless they are prepared to arrest you for a crime. An ordinary traffic infraction is just that - an infraction. It is not a crime. Police in Oregon cannot take a person into custody - the definition of an "arrest" - for an infraction. Police may temporarily detain you at the scene for an infraction, long enough to write out a citation. Legally, there is no such thing in Oregon as Resisting Arrest when the only offense is an infraction.

I can't speak for other states, but that is how it is here.
 

Squire

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In my state of Oregon, you may charge a person with Resisting Arrest if they have been told that they are under arrest for a crime and they then physically resist. In Oregon, the police may not order you out of a car unless they are prepared to arrest you for a crime. An ordinary traffic infraction is just that - an infraction. It is not a crime. Police in Oregon cannot take a person into custody - the definition of an "arrest" - for an infraction. Police may temporarily detain you at the scene for an infraction, long enough to write out a citation. Legally, there is no such thing in Oregon as Resisting Arrest when the only offense is an infraction.

I can't speak for other states, but that is how it is here.
Why are Oregon police so violent? Are they sadist and racist?

"But federal agents did not introduce state-sponsored violence to the city. It was already there long before they arrived."

https://theappeal.org/portland-protests-federal-agents-local-police-violence/

Police Violence Was a Problem In Portland Long Before Federal Agents Arrived
Local law enforcement tear-gassed and beat protesters and journalists.

The crackdown on protests in Portland, Oregon, by federal law enforcement agents has become a national scandal. Videos of federal officers tear-gassing and beating protesters have drawn fierce condemnation and sparked protests in cities around the country.

Last week, Governor Kate Brown announced that she had reached a deal with the Trump administration to remove the federal officers from Portland. (President Trump has since threatened to send in the National Guard if state police cannot “clean out this beehive of—of terrorists.”)

Brown, a Democrat, used the announcement to once again attack the presence of federal forces in her state. “These federal officers have acted as an occupying force, refused accountability, and brought violence and strife to our community,” she said.

Mayor Ted Wheeler, a Democrat who also serves as Portland’s police commissioner—and who was tear-gassed by the federal agents— echoed Brown’s comments. “The federal occupation of our community has brought a new kind of fear to our streets,” he tweeted.

But federal agents did not introduce state-sponsored violence to the city. It was already there long before they arrived.

For weeks, the Portland Police Bureau beat, tear-gassed, and shot projectiles at protesters, journalists, and legal observers. According to an analysis conducted by a master’s student at Portland State University, local law enforcement deployed tear gas more than 100 times from the end of May to the end of June. As Portland police repeatedly attacked demonstrators with tear gas, Wheeler refused to ban it. The frequent deployment of tear gas earned Wheeler the nickname “Tear Gas Teddy.” Wheeler’s office did not respond to requests for comment. ...
 

SethBullock

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Squire

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Portland Police did not use force against peaceful protesters.

They did use force against left wing insurrectionists who were destroying property, committing arson, and assaulting people.
The Portland police committed more crimes than the protestors did.
 

DreamRyderX

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Prove it.


Stop right there fella......Seth needs to prove absolutely nothing......you made the accusation that "The Portland police committed more crimes than the protestors did.", so Squire.....the burden of proof is all on you..........YOU need to prove the positive, what YOU said did happen. Seth does not have to prove what the cops didn't do.....what didn't happen.

So, what actual crimes were committed by the cops fella (only U.S. State or Federal Statutes apply.....American law), compared to what crimes the rioters & vandals committed (only U.S. State or Federal Statutes apply here as well....American law), not what you choose to make up.

Or is this a case where yer bowels have overloaded into yer mouth, & your imagination just ran away with itself.....

The ball is in your court fella.........


 
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Squire

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A typical right-wing extremist response that right-wing extremists don't have to provide any proof.

Trump's and GOP's lies about the election prove my argument.

At the very least, right-wing extremists can post photographs of the public toilet doors they get their information from.
 
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SethBullock

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A typical right-wing extremist response that right-wing extremists don't have to provide any proof.

Trump's and GOP's lies about the election prove my argument.

At the very least, right-wing extremists can post photographs of the public toilet doors they get their information from.
Lol ... Invoking the name of Trump doesn't make your false accusation a true one.
 

DreamRyderX

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A typical right-wing extremist response that right-wing extremists don't have to provide any proof.

Trump's and GOP's lies about the election prove my argument.

At the very least, right-wing extremists can post photographs of the public toilet doors they get their information from.
Lol ... Invoking the name of Trump doesn't make your false accusation a true one.
SPOT ON!!! @Seth


"Shit on his Lip" Squire attempted to create himself some wiggle room because like a rat in a sinking ship, he's desperate, & is quickly running out of air. His entire retort was incoherently immaterial.

Good collar!
 
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