Time For A New Deal For A Raw Deal?

Linus

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"Since its beginning, the United States has prided itself on being the land of opportunity, a place in which all individuals have the opportunity to succeed. Many people continue to refer to it as such, but a closer look at wealth and income distribution in the U.S. tells a different story. To the extent to which success depends on economic status and mobility, the notion that the U.S. is still the land of opportunity is simply false. Since the 1970s, economic inequality in the U.S. has skyrocketed, leaving many Americans living paycheck to paycheck while the nation’s top earners hoard all the gains from economic growth. The rise in economic inequality can be attributed to various factors that are often still debated, but a common theme among many of the causes rests on the enactment of legislation geared towards helping the wealthy and against the protection of workers.


Politicians often boast about America’s strong economy, highlighting low unemployment rates, a growing GDP, and soaring stock prices, yet this narrow outlook fails to account for the fact that the benefits of economic growth have only gone to the country’s top earners. According to the Economic Policy Institute, productivity has increased by 61.8 percent since 1979, yet hourly pay for workers has only increased by 17.5 percent as of last year (“The Productivity-Pay Gap,” 2021). The widening productivity-pay gap has also been accompanied by a widening wage gap between the nation’s top earners and the bottom 90 percent. Since 1979, the top 1.0 percent of earners have seen a 179.3 percent increase in wages and the top 0.1 percent have seen a 389.1 percent increase while the bottom 90 percent have only seen a 28.2
percent increase.



 

DreamRyderX

Active member
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~ American Exceptionalism ~

Listen to Nick Adams...Australian by Birth...
An American Patriot by Choice!






America is for Americans.......American By Birth, or like Nick...American By Choice.....From day one, no one in America was ever promised income equality, nor will that promise be forthcoming in the future......An opportunity is one thing, it's coupled with the opportunity to work hard......Success is another.....

America is a Land of Freedom & Liberty......the Greatest Country on this Planet.....if anyone either living in America, or intending on living in America legally feels they haven't been given a fair deal because they aren't satisfied with all of Americas economic opportunities....which must be earned via hard work.....they are FREE to leave......or not come to America at all.....that is their RIGHT.

Please, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.....But if you want back in legally in the future, it can be done.
 
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DreamRyderX

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This is a built in feature of capitalism, it's hardly a shock . The USA has always favoured the rich, it just got worse over time
Income & Class Envy pure & simple.....it's the favorite tactic of the Left to promote Socialism, where the government works it's way into every life, gaining control, as it slowly makes the entire citizenry dependent upon its 'generosity'........generosity with others money.....take from those that earn through their labors, & give it to those who have not earned, & will probably never earn, all this in the name of "Income Equality".

Capitalism is what America was built on, & what has made America greater than any other country on earth bar none.......Socialism, on the other hand, is an unsustainable cancer, & I hope it will be kept from spreading it's deadly tentacles to America.

Personally, I couldn't give a Royal Rats Ass if the filthy rich keep getting richer & richer......God bless 'em, & it doesn't bother me one bit if those that don't get richer either make modest economic gains, maintain the status quo, or sink a bit.
 

DreamRyderX

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"Look it's true the current system creates a vast divide and people living in poverty, but why do the left use this to PROMOTE SOCIALISM?????

Why does the Left use Income & Class Envy to promote Socialism?

The perpetual greed of big government to guarantee & feed it's own existence is why.

Unfortunately for the people, it becomes unsustainable, & they become the authors of their own ultimate demise.

“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.” — Benjamin Franklin

“Beware the greedy hand of government thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry.” – Thomas Paine

Socialism will be the end of our American Republic......I say Death to Socialism, & to those that promote it, their just deserts when the riotous crowds who have become dependent on government for their every need, demand more unearned income & programs, only to find government unable to do so because it has bankrupt itself!


See................. Socialism: The Failed Idea That Never Dies
 
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DreamRyderX

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A better deal for the majority is going to end the republic.
Not if sound minds have anything to do with it......American Patriots will kill Socialism dead before it has any real chance to raise it's ugly head, because there is no better deal anywhere on earth than the United States of America......
 
Not if sound minds have anything to do with it......American Patriots will kill Socialism dead before it has any real chance to raise it's ugly head, because there is no better deal anywhere on earth than the United States of America......
The issue is that only dumb boomers who lived through cold war propaganda believe that. The young have to navigate job and housing markets that the boomers fucked, and they like to read....
 

DreamRyderX

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List the places socialism failed.
.....It has been tried in the Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, Albania, Poland, Vietnam, Bulgaria, Romania, Czechoslovakia, North Korea, Hungary, China, East Germany, Cuba, Tanzania, Laos, South Yemen, Somalia, the Congo, Ethiopia, Cambodia, Mozambique, Angola, Nicaragua and Venezuela, among others—not counting the very short-lived ones. All of these attempts have ended in varying degrees of failure.
 
All of these attempts have ended in varying degrees of failure.
Cuba has thrived despite US aggression. Vietnam is secure and happy. Venezeula is also fine, despite your boomer memes. Communism took the USSR from a backwater to a super power in a generation. North Korea is not socialist, any more than Hitler was. Citizens reported they prefered East Germany to post unification Germany.

You are a dumbass
 

DreamRyderX

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Cuba has thrived despite US aggression. Vietnam is secure and happy. Venezeula is also fine, despite your boomer memes. Communism took the USSR from a backwater to a super power in a generation. North Korea is not socialist, any more than Hitler was. Citizens reported they prefered East Germany to post unification Germany.

You are a dumbass
Why haven't you provided quantitative corroborative confirmations of each of your personal claims?

We'd all love to see them....


It's put up or saddup.......

 
Why haven't you provided quantitative corroborative confirmations of each of your personal claims?

We'd all love to see them....


It's put up or saddup.......
I assume you are an illiterate buffoon :) Are you claiming Russia was never a super power? Are you claiming that Cuba does not exist right now? Are you saying you can't google Venezuela to see how life is there today?
 

Linus

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"Vietnam has progressed quickly in the last few decades to have one of the fastest-growing market-based economies in Asia. The awakening of the economy is driven by export-oriented manufacturing, foreign direct investment, strong domestic demand, and making use of human capital. The first decade after reunification was characterised as isolationist and stagnant with a socialist industry. As one of the few communist states in the world, the People's Republic of Vietnam was sanctioned by the majority of the global economic community. After 1986 and the Đổi Mới period, Vietnam has made a shift from a highly centralised command economy to a mixed economy. It was only after entering the competitive global market and enacting systematic reforms that the country was able to achieve its high growth rate.


The Government has spearheaded ambitious structural reform to tackle economic challenges such as public debt, State-Owned Enterprises (SOE) equitisation, non-trade barriers as well as environmental sustainability, and social equity. However, the bureaucratic nature of Vietnam’s economy, frequently changing regulations, the importance of personal contacts and cultural particulars make a trusted local business partner a valuable asset. Hanoi’s ambitious plan for economic reform, known as the Vietnam 2035 Report, focuses on the country achieving upper-middle income status. The World Bank reports that since Vietnam initiated market reforms in 1986 it has lifted over 40 million people out of poverty. Over the last two decades, Vietnam has quadrupled median household income, improved life expectancy significantly, and increased opportunities for social mobility...."





 

DreamRyderX

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I assume you are an illiterate buffoon :) Are you claiming Russia was never a super power? Are you claiming that Cuba does not exist right now? Are you saying you can't google Venezuela to see how life is there today?

Russia was never a 'super power', the USSR was until it broke.....thank you President Reagan......militarily out-spending the now defunct USSR into history....now they're having a hard time with the Ukraine after ex-KGB Putin got caught writing checks his ass & ego couldn't cash in pursuit of resurrecting the USSR's past faded glory.

Why don't you show us some polls where the Cubans are overwhelmingly pleased with their lot in life.....that Cubans are sitting high on the hog both economically & quality of life.

As far as the rest, you've made those personal claims, if you don't want to back 'em up, I understand......I wouldn't envy your position either if I were you.
 
Russia was never a 'super power', the USSR was until it broke.....thank you President Reagan......militarily out-spending the now defunct USSR into history....now they're having a hard time with the Ukraine after ex-KGB Putin got caught writing checks his ass couldn't cash in pursuit of resurrecting the USSR's past faded glory.

Why don't you show us some polls where the Cubans are overwhelmingly pleased with their lot in life.....that Cubans are sitting high on the hog both economically & quality of life.

As far as the rest, you've made those personal claims, if you don't want to back 'em up, I understand......I wouldn't envy your position either if I were you.
In fact the USSR was fine, it was betrayed. Irrelevant

Cubans ARE overwhelmingly happy. You need to stop watching CIA propaganda.

I have to back up that you can't google? Cool
 

Linus

Member
On Cuba, how can Dreamer really say or demand anything on it with a straight face? It has been in a strangled by the USA for over 60 years.


"In short, the US embargo impacts every aspect of life on the island – and that is the precisely the point. Sixty years ago on this day, President John F Kennedy introduced Proclamation 3447, Embargo on All Trade with Cuba, designed to isolate Cuba and stop the spread of so-called Sino-Soviet Communism “Every possible means should be undertaken promptly to weaken the economic life of Cuba,” the assistant secretary of state, Lester D Mallory, wrote in an April 1960 memo. The goal of the Kennedy administration was clear: “To bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government.”

Today, Joe Biden lives up to Kennedy’s legacy and the ambitions of his Cuban embargo."




It has done remarkably well to weather that policy for 60 years.
 
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