The Withdrawal from Afghanistan

chris155au

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Questions are sometimes used to emphasize a point being made. Questions are sometimes used to raise other questions about a central thought. And, sometimes questions are just rhetorical!! Like how ridiculous it is to waste lives and money, just to educate the women in Afghanistan. Although, I would never have raised this question, had you weren't parroting how Americans have provided the opportunity for all Afghani women to get an frick'n education.
Life for Afghan women and girls improved DRAMATICALLY after the worthless animals - that pile of human waste was OBLITERATED out of power with EASE by the almighty, unstoppable Western coalition forces! Clearly you are either not honest enough to just admit that, or you are too ignorant to know it.

However the other questions that I've asked you, were directly related to the truth claims that you really have stated. Do you plan on answering them sometime in the future? Would you like me to quote your statements back to you again?
No, I'd like you to direct me to the post which contains all of these questions that you're talking about. I'll happily answer any question which you throw at me. Unlike you I can actually handle scrutiny! I don't just throw a tantrum complaining about being asked questions!

Actually I was being conservative. It is over $6T dollars, and over 800K lives wasted in Iraq and Afghanistan. Who do you think would have profited the most from this money? The private contractors of the MIC, or the women in Iraq and Afghanistan?
That's like me asking: who do you think would have benefited the most from the Western cultural influences on Afghanistan? The private contractors of the MIC, or the women in Iraq and Afghanistan?
 

Squire

Active member
It wasn't a withdrawal. It was a surrender.

A withdrawal is when the occupying power leaves a country in good hands and leaves with thanks and good wishes and big celebrations.
 

Shellandshilo1956

Active member
Life for Afghan women and girls improved DRAMATICALLY after the worthless animals - that pile of human waste was OBLITERATED out of power with EASE by the almighty, unstoppable Western coalition forces! Clearly you are either not honest enough to just admit that, or you are too ignorant to know it.
I am really trying to be honest and informative. No one is questioning whether life for Afghani women had improved or not. But only from a western perspective. If we are going to be honest, then you must admit, that learning western ways after thousands of years of Islamic ways, may take some time to adjust to. As for obliterating those animals? Well, I guess most of them survived to take back their country. You really shouldn't shove the "American Way", down the throats of other cultures, in their own countries. It is the ultimate in arrogance. Has America looked at its own level of poverty? It's own disproportionate wealth stats? Its own Medicare system? Etc.

They really shouldn't go around telling others how to live their lives, until the can address their own domestic problems.

No, I'd like you to direct me to the post which contains all of these questions that you're talking about. I'll happily answer any question which you throw at me. Unlike you I can actually handle scrutiny! I don't just throw a tantrum complaining about being asked questions!
No, you just hide behind more questions, to avoid your burden of proof. But here are the obvious ones.

What was the riot that caused $2B worth of damage last year? From post #109.

"Just as long as you are acknowledging the horrific violence from last year's protests, which led to over two BILLION dollars worth in property damage, largely affecting BLACK people, DESTROYING busineeses and livelihoods.".

Why did you call the BLM and Antifa, "human waste terrorists" in post #72?

"I hope that you also liken the BLM and antifa human waste terrorists to the Taliban".

What did you mean in post #72 that the Jan 6th rioters were "dealt with in a matter of hours"?

"And they failed MISERABLY! The human waste was dealt with in a matter of hours.".

Now, I'm done jumping through all the hoops you keep throwing at me. I really hope that in the future you would be more intellectually honest. Nobody knows everything. And, that it is okay to have your own opinions. BUT NOT YOUR OWN FACTS. "If you can't show it, then you don't know it.".

That's like me asking: who do you think would have benefited the most from the Western cultural influences on Afghanistan? The private contractors of the MIC, or the women in Iraq and Afghanistan?
I don't think so. Clearly the contractors have benefited more from our continued occupation. The more deaths the more arms. The more arms the more deaths. Clearly, only one industry has benefited more than the people. And, I think you would agree.
 

SethBullock

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Parents of the fallen weigh in ....

My son was one of the Marines who was killed yesterday. He was getting ready to come home from freaking Jordan to be with his wife to watch the birth of his son.

And that feckless dementia ridden piece of crap just sent my son to die.

I woke up at four o’clock this morning to Marines at my door telling me my son was dead.”
- Kathy McCollum, mother of Rylee McCollum



“I blame my own military leaders ... Biden turned his back on him ... That’s it.” - Steve Nikoui, father of Kareem Nikoui



When asked if he had a message for Americans grieving his family’s loss, Schmitz responded, “Be afraid of our leadership, or lack thereof. Pray every day for the soldiers that are putting their lives at risk and doing what they love, which is protecting all of us. I think they are the only ones that we can honestly say have our backs.” - Mark Schmitz, father of Jared Schmitz
 

SethBullock

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Mush-for-brains promised that we would not leave Afghanistan until all Americans were out.

He lied. Hundreds left behind.

On August 18th ...

"We've got like 10 to 15,000 Americans in the country right now. Right? And are you committed to making sure that the troops stay until every American who wants to be out is out?" Stephanopoulos asked Biden.

"Yes," Biden replied.




August 30 ....

Around 6,000 “self-identified” Americans have left Afghanistan, Blinken said, with “under 200” Americans “who remain in Afghanistan and want to leave. We’re trying to determine exactly how many.”

Blinken did not estimate how many U.S. green-card holders or Afghan allies remained in the country.

 

SethBullock

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Biden Told Afghan President Ghani to Lie About Afghan Military Situation

A transcript of the call, reportedly provided to Reuters on condition of anonymity, detailed a July 23 phone call during which Biden pressured Ghani to “change perception” by publicly adopting a new military strategy.

“I need not tell you the perception around the world and in parts of Afghanistan, I believe, is that things are not going well in terms of the fight against the Taliban. And there is a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture,” Biden reportedly said.


 

SethBullock

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Staff member
That doesn't constitute lying. Not even close.

Trumpers and white extremists are getting desperate.
And there is a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture,” Biden reportedly said.
 

greggerypeccary

Active member
Trump invited the Taliban to Camp David and released their leader (along with 5,000 Taliban fighters) from prison.

You okay with that Seth & Tex?
 

johnsmith

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And there is a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture,” Biden reportedly said.
admit it, your only problem is that his alternate reality wasn't bizare enough. Now if only he'd asked the Ghani President to dig up dirt on his opposition whilst announcing that Biden was the best president ever, then that would be more to your liking.
 

Squire

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And there is a need, whether it is true or not, there is a need to project a different picture,” Biden reportedly said.
That is not lying. It is propaganda that is used by politicians from both sides, and more so by conservatives that have a propensity for lying in their genes.

Seth would be on safer ground if Donald Trump hadn't lied thousands of times about everything, anything, and nothing.
 

SethBullock

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That is not lying. It is propaganda that is used by politicians from both sides, and more so by conservatives that have a propensity for lying in their genes.

Seth would be on safer ground if Donald Trump hadn't lied thousands of times about everything, anything, and nothing.
"Lying" comes in many forms.
 
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