Texas Abortion Ban Goes Into Effect With Help From SCOTUS

chris155au

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no one had ever argued to abort a kid coming down the birth canal ... that you have to go to such extremes shows just how weak your argument is
I'm not talking about abortion, I'm saying that you think it's STILL no different to the hair on your head or the wort on your nose!
 

greggerypeccary

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Before an innocent person is executed, they are imprisoned. Are you also against imprisonment because of the possibility of innocence?
Jesus Christ, you're an incredible idiot.

I'm against the premeditated killing of prisoners.

And you say you're pro-life, but you have no problem with innocent people being killed by the state.

You are a very ill sociopath.
 

johnsmith

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I'm not talking about abortion, I'm saying that you think it's STILL no different to the hair on your head or the wort on your nose!
I didn't say there's no difference i said it was 'like', a similie, not to be confused with a synonym
 

greggerypeccary

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Makes me sick, these people who have no problem with innocent prisoners being murdered by the state.

And they have the gall to call themselves pro-life.

Don't make me laugh, you fucking monsters.
 

chris155au

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I'm against the premeditated killing of prisoners.
And your reason is because of the chance of innocence? If not, then why the hell bring up the chance of innocence?

And you say you're pro-life, but you have no problem with innocent people being killed by the state.
That's no different to saying that you have no problem
with innocent people being JAILED by the state.

You are a very ill sociopath.
:ROFL1
 

greggerypeccary

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And your reason is because of the chance of innocence? If not, then why the hell bring up the chance of innocence?



That's no different to saying that you have no problem
with innocent people being JAILED by the state.



:ROFL1
I have a big problem with innocent people being sent to prison.

But you have no problem with that, or with them being murdered.

You are a sick sociopath.
 

johnsmith

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So then what the hell is it between 6 and 9?
Why must I call it anything? I didn't decide 6 was some magic number. I've been arguing all along that 6 is far to short a period and many women don't even know they are pregnant at that stage
 

Texan

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Zero weeks. It is not HIS embryo! A man shares Zero responsibility for physically supporting the embryo or fetus. The woman's support of the fetus is 100%. The woman's decision to terminate her pregnancy, is also 100% her own. This decision has nothing to do with men, period! Even if you do plan on providing and supporting her "born" child, it is still NOT your decision.



This actually happened to my brother, while he was in the Air Force in New Mexico. She went so far as to call our mother, and to claim that my brother was the father of her child. All though he certainly could've been the father, my mother told her, "I'm afraid that my son has been sterile since birth, so you must be mistaken.". She never called again.

I agree that there are some unscrupulous women out there looking for unsuspecting fathers. This is a very dangerous practice, especially if the baby clearly does not belong to the father. But these are clearly NOT the women seeking abortions, right?
I was in the Air Force in New Mexico at the time. Cannon AFB.

So since I have no say so about the birth of my child, I assume I can avoid financial responsibility for that child. Right? Why does the woman get to decide my financial future?
 

Texan

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no one had ever argued to abort a kid coming down the birth canal ... that you have to go to such extremes shows just how weak your argument is
Except American politicians are arguing for POST birth abortion. Its disgusting and it's murder.

 

Shellandshilo1956

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You continue to demonstrate your complete ignorance on the subject. Here's some education:


www.verywellmind.com/stages-of-prenatal-development-2795073




I think that you would probably be the last person on the planet, to educated me in human embryology. I know you want to cling to your "eureka moment", but no. I even highlighted my comments to avoid this confusion.

"The fetus is considered an embryo UNTIL 11 WEEKS AFTER A WOMAN'S LAST MENSTRAL PERIOD(LMP)."

Since you are already knowledgeable in embryology and fetal development, I won't bore you with the difference between menstruation and ovulation. You already know that a women's complete menstrual cycle is around 28 days. Lets say that on the 1st day the woman ovulates(releases an unfertilized egg). If it isn't met by mister sperm, and implants into the uterine wall, then on the 14th day the woman will menstruate(aborting the unfertilized egg). This means that the next conception would have to take place AFTER this 2 weeks menstrual period. Healthcare professionals measure the length of a pregnancy from the 1st day of the women's LMP(day 14 in my example). Because no one knows the exact date of conception, right? But what would you expect when you're just copying and pasting a diagram from a psychology book. So just add 2 weeks onto those stages.

But if you believe that the fetus, embryo, or even the gametes are the living unborn, then why all this song and dance? What difference does the stages of fetal development make? This is about choice, and a woman's right to control her own reproductive system. So, other than putting zero skin in the game, and voicing your moral outrage, I'm not sure if there is a point to be made here. A woman is NOT murdering any born child, and she is NOT committing any unlawful act.

You might be happy that the thousands of pregnant women in Texas, will now be forced to seek out alternative, and more dangerous abortion methods. I'm not! Can't you see the dangers of this slippery slope? Eventually, young mothers and anyone helping them to have an abortion, will have to be arrested and jailed. There is already legislation in Alabama, and other states, making it a Felony(up to 99 years imprisonment), for anyone who provides abortions. Next, they will stop the sell of abortion pills. Then they will start arresting/imprisoning women who perform their own abortions. Man controls woman!

Did you find out what ensoulment meant?
 

Shellandshilo1956

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I was in the Air Force in New Mexico at the time. Cannon AFB.
I think my brother was at Kirtland AFB near Albuquerque NM. That was a long time ago.

So since I have no say so about the birth of my child, I assume I can avoid financial responsibility for that child. Right? Why does the woman get to decide my financial future?
Sorry Texan I'm not an attorney. But if you are under 18, you are NOT an adult. Therefore, you have no legal responsibilities to the unborn child. As an adult, there are just too many child responsibility laws, that I can't answer that question. How does a woman terminating her pregnancy decide the financial future of men?
 

Texan

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I think my brother was at Kirtland AFB near Albuquerque NM. That was a long time ago.



Sorry Texan I'm not an attorney. But if you are under 18, you are NOT an adult. Therefore, you have no legal responsibilities to the unborn child. As an adult, there are just too many child responsibility laws, that I can't answer that question. How does a woman terminating her pregnancy decide the financial future of men?
Men are forced into paying child support until the child is 18 and maybe pay for some college. That's what that woman was after from me years ago. If the father speaks up and declines responsibility or was never told about the baby until after birth, why is he held responsible when the mother has a choice up until delivery to decide if she wants to support the child or not?
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Men are forced into paying child support until the child is 18 and maybe pay for some college. That's what that woman was after from me years ago. If the father speaks up and declines responsibility or was never told about the baby until after birth, why is he held responsible when the mother has a choice up until delivery to decide if she wants to support the child or not?
Maybe I'm missing the point here Texan. Although, any man who gets a woman pregnant, SHOULD have a moral responsibility to support her physically and emotionally during her pregnancy. But if he is under 18 he has no legal responsibility. If he is older, then he loses his responsibility if he does nothing to support her. He may also have some legal obligations as well(depending on the State). There is no law(that I could find) that requires/forces a man to support the mother during her pregnancy. But in these cases we are talking about women who DO NOT want to have an abortion.

I have been talking about women who do. Clearly, if a women has an abortion, there is no financial obligations for either party, right? As far as what happens after the child is born, that is in the hands of the courts. If the father was never informed by the mother of her pregnancy, then I'm sure that this would carry some positive legal ramification towards custody. But this is just my opinion.
 

DreamRyderX

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In the Sovereign State of Texas they used to murder ± 60,000 innocent pre-born children a year via abortion.

The new law has been in effect since September 1, 2021.

How many innocent pre-born children's lives have been spared the butcher's wrath since then?

I'm guessing ± 1,000 children have been spared a gruesome & unnecessary death at the hands of the so called 'Progressive' Left since September 1, 2021.


± 1,000 Innocent Lives Spared & Counting ...
God Bless Texas!!!



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chris155au

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I think that you would probably be the last person on the planet, to educated me in human embryology. I know you want to cling to your "eureka moment", but no. I even highlighted my comments to avoid this confusion.

"The fetus is considered an embryo UNTIL 11 WEEKS AFTER A WOMAN'S LAST MENSTRAL PERIOD(LMP)."
So even as a fetus, it remains an embryo? For how long?

Eventually, young mothers and anyone helping them to have an abortion, will have to be arrested and jailed.
No, these law do NOT target women - that would be wrong. They target abortionists!
 
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