Texas Abortion Ban Goes Into Effect With Help From SCOTUS

Biggles53

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I am proudly Pro-Life......I will always defend the lives of the unborn, those who are unable to defend themselves, so they can hopefully live & have the opportunity to enjoy all the goodness of life & God's creations. I also support capital punishment for the most heinous of crimes. I'm also an avid supporter of the Second Amendment to my United States Constitution....the Right of every Law-Abiding American Citizen to Keep & Bear Arms, to be used specifically for self-defense, as well as to be used for all other lawful purposes.......I fully support the use of firearms to defend & protect one's own life, the lives of one's loved ones, the lives of one's friends, neighbors, & fellow citizens, from all that wish them harm, even a tyrannical government that ignores their Rights.

You are a very sick puppy…
 

DreamRyderX

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You're entitled to your 'personal opinions'....but....Sticks & Stones may break my bones, but Biggles....your words can never hurt me.



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DreamRyderX

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And, spreading lies and deceiving others don't seem to bother you either.
It probably means a hell of a lot more to me than you....that's seems obvious.....I tell the truth as I know it, & I'm passionate about the things that mean the most to me & those I care about.....When I look in the mirror I know the person looking back at me is an honest friend, a good guy, & he's always got my back when times get tough.....

You.....the jury's still out...... but if nothing else you seem to be quite enamored with yourself, & you'll stop at no lengths to tell everyone how much so.....but hey, that said.....I never met anyone that didn't need some improvement.....& I include myself along with the rest as subject of that personal observation....
 
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Shellandshilo1956

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It probably means a hell of a lot more to me than you....that's seems obvious.....I tell the truth as I know it, & I'm passionate about the things that mean the most to me & those I care about.....When I look in the mirror I know the person looking back at me is an honest friend, a good guy, & he's always got my back when times get tough.....
Although the "man in the mirror" metaphor sounds a bit narcissistic, I understand what you mean. I am also passionate about the things that mean the most to me, and those close to me. But I also know, that I am not perfect, and that my beliefs and understandings may be flawed. Regardless of what conceptual construct I attached my beliefs to.

You have the right to your own beliefs, views, and truisms. But you don't have the right to your own facts, or your own logic. If you want to believe that terminating an early pregnancy is murder, or that an embryo is a mini-human, then this is just scientifically and legally not true. These are beliefs only, not facts

You(and others like you) have every right to practice your own beliefs(not to have an abortion). No one is forcing you to terminate your pregnancy. But you have no right to influence policy, that will directly or indirectly, force others to adopt your beliefs. No matter what the banner is you hide behind(protecting the rights of the unborn). There is no justification for this action.

You.....the jury's still out...... but if nothing else you seem to be quite enamored with yourself, & you'll stop at no lengths to tell everyone how much so.....but hey, that said.....I never met anyone that didn't need some improvement.....& I include myself along with the rest as subject of that personal observation....
I'd like to think, that I am more passionate than enamored. I simply believe that nothing is absolute. Including moral absolutes! There are only 2 ways to truly know thyself. One, you need to be able to see yourself from outside yourself. Two, you would need to be able to read the minds of others. Neither is possible! We are simply the biochemical expression of our the physical and behavioral traits, as expressed by our inherited genes. Nothing more, and nothing less. Therefore, improving or worsening, are not very relevant terms. But again, I know what you mean.
 

Biggles53

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I tell the truth as I know it, & I'm passionate about the things that mean the most to me & those I care about
And there’s one of your problems….there is no truth “as you know it”. A thing is either true or not true. And people are often “passionate” about things that are false…
 

Biggles53

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You're entitled to your 'personal opinions'....but....Sticks & Stones may break my bones, but Biggles....your words can never hurt me.



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Playground responses…!?? Am I communicating with an 8 year old? If so, run along sonny…the adults would like to converse…
 

HBS Guy

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Seems the morning-after pill has made the Texan control-of-uppity-women law largely moot. Unfortunately, some will go to backyard abortionists. Seems Dreamryder is happy for women to die when a safe alternative is removed by control freaks like himself.
 
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DreamRyderX

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Seems the morning-after pill has made the Texan control-of-uppity-women largely moot. Unfortunately, some will go to backyard abortionists. Seems Dreamryder is happy for women to die when a safe alternative is removed by control freaks like himself.
Now, this would be a grand opportunity for the woman to assert herself & her 'choice', & simply ignore the impulse to have an abortion altogether. She can have the child in the safety of a hospital, where they have already been made aware that the newborn infant will be gently taken from the mother immediately after it's precious birth, & safely put up for adoption as pre-planned.

Everybody Lives, & the Abortionist goes home the poorer.....

 
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HBS Guy

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And the hundreds of thousands of kids already awaiting adoption? And giving birth is not risk free, even now women die giving birth.

Regardless, the Texan control-of-uppity-women law is moot.
 

hatty

cynical profane bastard
This!.....drx is the biggest hypocritical fuckwit.
loves weapons of war....... hates women
and says he loves jesus.
and that is the reason for his high horse.
I wonder what would happen if he found out jesus was a woman?
 

HBS Guy

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Does he realise Jesus did not exist but that if he did he would have been swarthy, even dark with a hook nose, black hair and brown eyes and would not have been the pansy most religious art portrays him as?
 

HBS Guy

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And probably married and fathered children—he was supposed to know what it was to be human.
 

HBS Guy

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And the Texan law is solely about control of women. Maybe he should read “The Handmaid’s Tale.”
 

Shellandshilo1956

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This!.....drx is the biggest hypocritical fuckwit.
loves weapons of war....... hates women
and says he loves jesus.
and that is the reason for his high horse.
I wonder what would happen if he found out jesus was a woman?

Or, that Jesus was Black!
 
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HBS Guy

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He doesn’t think things through, does he? Red hot antiabortionist, bet he would explain away school shootings.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Oh god forbid! :)

well he wasn't a silky haired white dude

Who was from Palestine despite how he is always portrayed..... but hey..... those pesky little facts purple bounce

God didn't create man in His image. Man created God in his own image. We see this all over the world. They all can't be right. If the true depictions of Christ were ever represented in the American churches, atheism would become a true science.

Unfortunately cult beliefs won't be effected. Did you know that either Jesus had two human fathers, or there were 2 Jesus? According to archeological findings, and the scholarly interpretations of many texts? I guess we humans need to blame someone for our existence?


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HBS Guy

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As I said, banning legal abortion leads to increased maternal deaths.

The world is moving towards greater reproductive rights for women. More than 50 countries have liberalized their abortion laws in the past 25 years, informed by scientific research. Studies find that unsafe abortion is responsible for one in eight maternal deaths globally (E. Ahman and I. H. Shah Int. J. Gynaecol. Obstet. 115, 121–126; 2011), concentrated in low-income countries where abortion is illegal. Preventing unsafe abortion is a priority — 193 countries signed up to the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals, which call for reductions in maternal mortality.

Yet some countries, such as the United States, Poland and Nicaragua, are making access to abortion more difficult. Restrictions are passed on the basis of ideology or political motives, without considering scientific evidence about their impact. Science might not be able to decide philosophical questions about when life begins or when the rights of a fetus outweigh the agency of the person whose body is necessary for its growth and development. But it can tell us how access to abortion is affected by its legal status, and about the consequences when abortion is inaccessible. Science should weigh in on the often quoted yet seldom tested slogans of the abortion debate, because people’s well-being is at stake.

Consider this argument: ‘One cannot ban abortion; one can only ban safe abortion.’ This can be tested. When abortion is illegal, pregnant people are more likely to resort to unsafe methods. But some circumvent the law in ways that are safe. Those with the means travel to places where abortion is legal, and others take safe medications, approved by the World Health Organization, to terminate their pregnancies outside the formal health system. In Latin America, where self-managed abortion is widespread, large decreases in mortality from unsafe abortion have been documented without widespread changes to restrictive abortion laws (see go.nature.com/3d6gspd).

But there’s another consequence that should be investigated — when people are unable to get a legal abortion, they are more likely to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. It is estimated that 70% of unintended pregnancies end in abortion in places where it is legal, compared with about 50% where it is not (J. Bearak et al. Lancet Glob. Health 8, E1152–E1161; 2020). I am a demographer who gathers data and creates quantitative models to assess how unintended pregnancies affect the well-being of women, children and families. My work shows that there are serious ramifications.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03434-1

(Red italic are my emphasis.)

Worth reading the whole article.
 

johnsmith

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1 in 8 maternal deaths .... and think of all those future kids those women will now be unable to have. dreamriderx and his ilk are responsible for the deaths of millions of kids who would have otherwise been born and had a fruitful lifeb i s h o pb i s h o p ....
 
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