Texas Abortion Ban Goes Into Effect With Help From SCOTUS

DreamRyderX

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Texas Abortion Ban goes into Effect
After Justices Deny Motion to Halt It.


Source: SCOTUSblog
The Supreme Court on Tuesday night took a step that anti-abortion activists have hoped for, and abortion-rights supporters have feared, since the death of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg nearly a year ago. By failing to respond to a plea for them to intervene, the justices allowed a Texas law that bans nearly all abortions to go into effect early Wednesday morning. The abortion providers challenging the law say that it will bar at least 85% of abortions in the state and will likely cause many clinics to close. The justices could still act on the providers’ request at any time.

The law bans abortions after about six weeks of pregnancy – a time when many people do not yet know they are pregnant – and allows private citizens to sue anyone who helps a patient get an abortion. The Texas legislature passed the law as part of an effort to undercut the Supreme Court’s landmark decisions in Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey, which established a constitutional right to have an abortion before the point of fetal viability, generally understood to occur around 24 weeks of pregnancy.......continued


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The United States Supreme Court took up the case entered into by the 'Planned Parenthood' combined group et al......

Planned Parenthood lost it's bid when the SCOTUS refused to order an injunction halting the State Law from going into effect.....

For the very first time, regarding so called "Abortion Rights" & Roe, Roe v. Wade has basically been over-ruled/overturned in part by SCOTUS' simple refusal to place an injunction on the State Law, & now...as of yesterday......for the very first time since Roe.......State Law will have precedence over Federal Law regarding abortion.




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Squire

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The SCOTUS right has exposed itself as right-wing political hacks and extremists.

The Judiciary has been made political by the GOP.
 

DreamRyderX

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The SCOTUS right has exposed itself as right-wing political hacks and extremists.

The Judiciary has been made political by the GOP.
IMHO The US Supreme Court, which has always been political (as intended) since it's inception, has made it clear how it will probably deal with Roe v. Wade's 'unsettled' law..........The 'Right to Life' will have preference over a Woman's so called 'Right to Choose' to terminate it.
 
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DreamRyderX

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Chaos and Confusion in Texas as New Abortion Law takes Hold




Source: The Seattle Times
The anti-abortion movement in Texas won a major victory Thursday after a novel legal approach to banning abortion was not blocked by the Supreme Court, throwing abortion services across the state into chaos......

The Supreme Court refused just before midnight Wednesday to block the law prohibiting abortions after cardiac activity is detected — usually about six weeks of pregnancy. Now the measure, which was signed into law in May, will run its course in the lower courts. Its unique legal structure, though, means it will likely remain in effect for the duration of the legal battle.

The law deputizes ordinary citizens to sue anyone who “aids or abets” an abortion, and abortion clinics were bracing for an onslaught of lawsuits. Instead, what seemed to be happening Thursday was near-complete compliance with the law without a single suit yet filed. The largest anti-abortion group in the state, Texas Right to Life, said it had received “a couple of voicemail messages” and some tips on its website that did not pan out. But overall, the movement was pleased that abortions had practically stopped.

“There’s no big smoking gun yet,” said John Seago, legislative director for the group, whose members have been watching for tips. “I have no reason to believe anyone is violating this.”

On Thursday in Texas, that meant a changed landscape for abortion care. Abortion clinics reported dramatic drops in patients on their schedules. And pregnancy crisis centers, where anti-abortion groups offer pregnancy services, reported surges in phone calls and walk-ins. Abortion funds, which help poor women pay for procedures, reported a rise in the number of patients seeking treatment out of state.

The law was novel and its success surprised even some in the anti-abortion movement. Jana Pinson, executive director of the Pregnancy Center of the Coastal Bend, which has four locations in the Corpus Christi area, said her clinics had been “flooded” this week with clients who were confused and sometimes angry. Waiting rooms have been “filled to overflowing” and staff members have been staying late to accommodate requests from women seeking ultrasounds and pregnancy tests.

“I didn’t think it would happen in my lifetime,” she said of the bill’s success.......continued


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The Texas Law is working.......Abortions have come to a virtual halt all across the Lone Star State!

This is a State's Issue, not a Federal Issue.......There is no 'Right to an Abortion' to be found anywhere in the United States Constitution.


Source: The United States Constitution
Amendment X (1791)
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

CHOOSE LIFE



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johnsmith

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I wonder how much dreamrider and his ilk will donate to all those future unwanted kids so that they can eat and have a shelter etc


I'm betting you'll all be crying they're leaches sponging off the taxman by the time they're ten yrs old
 

Squire

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I wonder how much dreamrider and his ilk will donate to all those future unwanted kids so that they can eat and have a shelter etc


I'm betting you'll all be crying they're leaches sponging off the taxman by the time they're ten yrs old
DreamRyderX was an unwanted child that is still seeking love in dark places.
 

mothra

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There will still be abortions. Just now women will die and suffer life long complications.

Well done, you bible bashing idiots.
 

DreamRyderX

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There will still be abortions. Just now women will die and suffer life long complications.
Every human being ever born throughout human history eventually dies, none have, nor will one ever beat the grim reaper, & some throughout their mortal experience may have had it tougher than others........some better....

A lot depends on the choices they made in life, while many never saw what was coming through any fault of their own.........

Life is life................Down the bumpy road of life we all have to take the good with the bad.........never will there be any guarantees.



Well done, you bible bashing idiots.
It is my sincere hope that many Millions of 'innocent' lives will be saved to live a life of thier own............Whatever gets the job done.......Cest la vie.....


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DreamRyderX

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I wonder how much dreamrider and his ilk will donate to all those future unwanted kids so that they can eat and have a shelter etc.....
Their unwanted days will end when they are adopted. They'll all be welcomed into the loving arms & homes of those that do want them, & who will love them as their own.....with their new adoptive extended families, who combined will gladly take care of their daily wants & needs......

As far as how much will I personally donate to their wellbeing.....I'll donate my best wishes, & if the government still has some of the thousands upon thousands of taxes I paid over my working life, they'd be welcome to it.....as for my fellow Pro-Lifers, they can speak for themselves, but neither they or I will ever have to answer to the MURDEROUS, BABY KILLING PROGRESSIVE LEFT.........
 
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Shellandshilo1956

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Every human being ever born throughout human history eventually dies, none have, nor will one ever beat the grim reaper, & some throughout their mortal experience may have had it tougher than others........some better....

A lot depends on the choices they made in life, while many never saw what was coming through any fault of their own.........

Life is life................Down the bumpy road of life we all have to take the good with the bad.........never will there be any guarantees.




It is my sincere hope that many Millions of 'innocent' lives will be saved to live a life of thier own............Whatever gets the job done.......Cest la vie..... :tips hat


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SAVED FOR WHAT??

Knowing that they will always be unwanted and unloved by their own mothers?
Knowing that they will always be part of a family that they can never belong to?
Knowing that they were the product of rape or incest?
Knowing that only the pregnant mothers are being penalized, and not the men.
Knowing that their fathers will hate them for killing their wives because they were all forced to give birth?
Knowing that their mothers/wives died from botched backyard abortions?
Knowing that a bunch of delusional people who believe in the Garden of Evil and Heaven and Hell, from a book dripping in blood, now have control over our reproductive choices?
Knowing that your parents are being forced to look after your handicaps until the day they die?
Knowing that none these prolife hypocrites will be there to help you in any way?
Knowing that there are people who can only find happiness in the suffering of others? These people hide behind nonsense Deepities, just like any other religious fundamentalist would?
Knowing that insensitive, ignorant, and callous people, will only see you and your choices as the only problem? Not the causes.
Knowing that religious fanatics will now control our general freedoms and individual rights?

At least one could make a prolife argument if any of these people were willing to put some skin in the game. But they don't. If any of these hypocrites extended their right to life to ALL life, they wouldn't seem so hypocritical. Instead they all hide behind a book of lies, contradictions, and violence. NONE of these people are willing to rear these unwanted children, are they? They are like parrots who claim it is murder, and ignore the legal reality that it isn't. There is no rational reason to justify any government telling any woman that they MUST conceive a child when pregnant.

This slippery slope will lead to any number of government intrusions into our private lives. And you really just can't see it, can you? Exactly what reason would you give to a father, who must chose to save the unborn child or his wife? Would you go to a strangers home, and tell the expected mother that she must bring her child to term? Are you going to start putting pregnant mothers in jail for murder who do get abortions?

My greatest fear, is that the intelligent, the educated, and the independent thinkers, will eventually be controlled by the ignorant, the religious fundamentalist, and the good company men. Simply because, THERE ARE ALOT MORE OF THEM!!
 

DreamRyderX

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SAVED FOR WHAT??

Q. Knowing that they will always be unwanted and unloved by their own mothers? A. Pulled yer Crystal Ball out yer ass....licked it clean for that gem huh sonny......flat out wrong boy....flat out wrong....

Q. Knowing that they will always be part of a family that they can never belong to? A. Pulled yer Crystal Ball out yer ass....licked it clean for that gem huh......flat out wrong boy....flat out wrong!

Q. Knowing that they were the product of rape or incest? A. Pulled yer Crystal Ball out yer ass again huh sonny!?

Q. Knowing that only the pregnant mothers are being penalized, and not the men. A. Kids don't give a rats ass.........at least until they're adults......all they want is a place to sleep, food to eat, a family that love em, & a chance to live their own lives.....that their adoptive parents should be able to easily provide......maybe not the best, but hey, love dwells there......

Q. Knowing that their fathers will hate them for killing their wives because they were all forced to give birth? A. ....Damn boy!! Yer back to yer crystal ball act again!!??....ya like that shitty taste don't ya!!

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⮞⮞⮞ Knowin' the most important FACT you conveniently ignored......Knowin' they're Fuckin' ALIVE Fella!!!......they're ALIVE!!! ......not dead on some abortionist's floor as you'd prefer........they're fuckin' ALIVE!!!.......nothing else matters!!!........the rest you wrote is so fulla shit, it ain't worth the bother.....yer talkin out yer ass.....groppin fer shit, makin' up shit..... Go back ta smokin' crack sonny.....



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Shellandshilo1956

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⮞⮞⮞ Knowin' the most important FACT you conveniently ignored......Knowin' they're Fuckin' ALIVE Fella!!!......they're ALIVE!!! ......not dead on some abortionist's floor as you'd prefer........they're fuckin' ALIVE!!!.......nothing else matters!!!........the rest you wrote is so fulla shit, it ain't worth the bother.....yer talkin out yer ass.....groppin fer shit, makin' up shit..... Go back ta smokin' crack sonny.....



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Let me just ask you 3 questions. And when you become lucid enough to understand the questions, I hope that you will answer.

Is the human heart, cells, lungs, brain, kidneys, bones, prick, fingernails, or liver, sentient(self-aware of itself), or autonomous(self-sufficient outside of the host)? Is a human zygote, embryo, or foetus also sentient and autonomous? I don't think that any of these structures, systems, organs or features are sentient or autonomous without the host. Finally, how do you define life, where there are NO exceptions? And, please don't say the old childish, "not dead". Otherwise, the Coronavirus is not alive.

Human life can be defined as, "..a sentient, self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution.", Any other definitions will only define the features of what life has, or what life does.

Since the human zygote, embryo, or the foetus are NOT autonomous or sentient, then they can't be life as we know it. They are just stages in a developing chemical system, evolving to become a sentient and self-sufficient organism.

If you are going to insult me with lies, at least have the decency to back them up. Otherwise, you are just another close-minded fanatic, that will always be incapable of challenging his own beliefs(like an Archie Bunker). Therefore, incapable of learning from mistaken beliefs. Are you a God, DreamRyderX? Because, only a God would not challenge his own beliefs!

Just out of little interest. What is your view on the killing of animals just for sport, and on capital punishment? Or, do these lives count?
 

johnsmith

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Every human being ever born throughout human history eventually dies, none have, nor will one ever beat the grim reaper, & some throughout their mortal experience may have had it tougher than others........some better....

A lot depends on the choices they made in life, while many never saw what was coming through any fault of their own.........

Life is life................Down the bumpy road of life we all have to take the good with the bad.........never will there be any guarantees.
funny how you don't take that position BEFORE you ban abortions ... is it because even you don't believe the tripe you post, but you post it because you think it sounds good?

Their unwanted days will end when they are adopted. They'll all be welcomed into the loving arms & homes of those that do want them, & who will love them as their own.....with their new adoptive extended families, who combined will gladly take care of their daily wants & needs......
Sounds grand except the reality is that adoption agencies the world over are full of kids waiting to be adopted.... many grow up moving from foster home to foster home, and in and out of govt. care their whole childhood, having NEVER found a stable home, whereby upon reaching adulthood they eventually move into the prison system .... you should stick to reality and leave the fantasy and wishful thinking to the sci fi writiers
 

DreamRyderX

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Let me just ask you 3 questions..............I hope that you will answer..............
Fervently believe whatever you personally wish, but I honestly believe 'Human Life', in terms of a 'beginning', takes place at the point of successful fertilization......period, end of all further discussion regarding the 'beginning of human life'.

To me, IMHO, any point thereafter, destroying that innocent Human Life for no other reason than convenience is murder........that should make it easy for you, & anyone else reading this, to understand. I care not what any scientist on any level of medical profession, or politician, or cleric may use to define the beginning of "Human Life".

Now, that said, I do believe in self-defense against another human being or animal.....up to & including the use of deadly force if I alone believe it necessary to protect & defend myself, my loved ones, my fellow citizens/friends......& even strangers in grave danger.

I do not kill game animals for sport, unless I believe they will be consumed by myself or others....Needless killing for the mere sake of killing....sport.....is not part of my character.

I do believe in Capital Punishment for heinous criminal offenses, as & if, it is a prescribed punishment by law.

I do not care one bit how the above makes you, or anyone else, feel or think about me or anyone else who may disagree with me.......deal with your own internal conflicts regarding your own personal feelings.......How I appear in your eyes means less than nothing to me.......if it makes you feel better, by all means enjoy your political castigation of me.....I care not.......When it comes to names, please remember the nursery rhyme about sticks & stones......



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DreamRyderX

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funny how you don't take that position BEFORE you ban abortions ... is it because even you don't believe the tripe you post, but you post it because you think it sounds good?



Sounds grand except the reality is that adoption agencies the world over are full of kids waiting to be adopted.... many grow up moving from foster home to foster home, and in and out of govt. care their whole childhood, having NEVER found a stable home, whereby upon reaching adulthood they eventually move into the prison system .... you should stick to reality and leave the fantasy and wishful thinking to the sci fi writiers
How long have you been talking to yourself about your own fantasies in front of a mirror Smitty?


BTW........what system anywhere around the world have you ever found to be all-inclusively perfect? I submit none are, but if a life is terminated it would be impossible to measure any satisfactory measures of success........Only if the termination of life is removed from the equation can anyone....even yourself.....measure the quality of life.

So far this year over 289,800,000 abortions ( https://www.worldometers.info/abortions/) have been done.... ±125,000 each day by years end.....if they could be polled, how do you think they would perceive their quality of life....... Would they consider their brutal terminations as a positive on the scale of acceptability?

PS.......what percentage of orphans, who you think would be better off dead/aborted......what percentage would feel they have not enjoyed the fact that they were alive, & would agree with your death wishes as a positive alternative to breathing...... 0.0001% .........1% ........ 5% ...... 10% ..... 15% ..... 25% ....... 50% ........?
 
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Aussie

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How long have you been talking to yourself about your own fantasies in front of a mirror Smitty?


BTW........what system anywhere around the world have you ever found to be all-inclusively perfect? I submit none are, but if a life is terminated it would be impossible to measure any satisfactory measures of success........Only if the termination of life is removed from the equation can anyone....even yourself.....measure the quality of life.

So far this year over 289,800,000 abortions ( https://www.worldometers.info/abortions/) have been done.... ±125,000 each day by years end.....if they could be polled, how do you think they would perceive their quality of life....... Would they consider their brutal terminations as a positive on the scale of acceptability?

PS.......what percentage of orphans, who you think would be better off dead/aborted......what percentage would feel they have not enjoyed the fact that they were alive, & would agree with your death wishes as a positive alternative to breathing...... 0.0001% .........1% ........ 5% ...... 10% ..... 15% ..... 25% ....... 50% ........?
That's precious.....I wonder if you will maintain the same stand if we talk about guns, and or capital punishment.

Ha!
 

DreamRyderX

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That's precious.....I wonder if you will maintain the same stand if we talk about guns, and or capital punishment.

Ha!
I've already open booked my thoughts on both just a few posts up.

I'm also a paid in full, Card Carrying, Lifetime Member of The National Rifle Association, & damn proud of it. When I'm Stateside I usually carry a loaded, concealed firearm.....because I can, & not because I need to. Better to not need to use a gun, but if you have to, it's best have one, loaded & ready.

Also, when I vote in a Local, State, or Federal Election, if a candidate....especially a Judge.....is Conservative, openly Pro-Capital Punishment, & Pro-Second Amendment, they'd get a tic from me over someone who isn't.

What do ya have in mind?
 
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Aussie

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So.....taking this into account:

I submit none are, but if a life is terminated it would be impossible to measure any satisfactory measures of success........Only if the termination of life is removed from the equation can anyone....even yourself.....measure the quality of life.
1. Why do the citizens need guns?

2. What is your view on capital punishment?
 
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