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HBS Guy

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There is a recent Newspoll, the election will be called in a few months. Any discussion on this?
 

Squire

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Polls are unreliable. Voters are fickle and are easily bought and sold back and forth between the two sides.
 

HBS Guy

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Good! Any instance of corruption in particular? What about some fucking idiot wanting corrupt Gladys to move to Canberra?
 

Squire

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A serious issue is the war of words with China.

If the Liberal proclivity to obey the US propaganda masters continues it will not bode well for anyone, Chinese, American, or Australian. The Chinese are being pushed into a corner and the Chinese or Americans could accidentally or deliberately initiate an armed conflict.

Americans have excluded large number of people from their society and economy at different times.

Americans committed abhorrent acts of mass murder and genocide against American Indians and Mexicans.

Americans have imprisoned blacks and foreigners in America at various times and indeed lynched them.

No Australian cried for Iraqis when the US killed a million with bombs and sanctions and destroyed valuable factories and infrastructure based on a litany of lies. The USA indeed supplied weapons of mass destruction to Iraq in the 1980s when it suited their purposes.

No Australian cried for Koreans when 3+ million died in the Korean war.

Few Australians cried for Vietnamese and Asians when the US bombed and poisoned Vietnam with 3+ million deaths in Vietnam and other Asian countries.

Australians are hypocrites.
 

Squire

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Perhaps tens of thousands, certainly not millions. Only a few percent of the Australian public were against Australian involvement in Vietnam.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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There is a recent Newspoll, the election will be called in a few months. Any discussion on this?
Polls are used by the major parties, to manipulate people into believing that there are only two relevant parties to vote for. And, all other parties are just a wasted vote. They are good at it. And we are still too gullible to see it.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Into ALL the conspiracy theories, eh?
Conspiracy theory?? Why do you think many countries have stopped the media from reporting what the polls are showing, day(s) before the actual election? These countries know the power of the polls. They know how the polls can influence how people vote. If the polls suggests that a candidate or party is going to win, or is winning, people have a tendency to vote on a winner. Not on a loser. Hence why minor parties are always represented as a wasted vote, and are generally ignored!

It is also known, that the more positive the coverage of a candidate or party, the more their chances of winning are. The media is very powerful at creating opinions and beliefs. Not facts or truth. I mean, why else would anyone rational human, vote for anyone pushing 80 for President? Or, would vote for a certifiable sociopath, lifetime criminal, liar, and grifter? The media can always make shit sound good enough to eat.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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Yup, all conspiracy theories.
Is "conspiracy theory", your default excuse whenever you don't like hearing the truth? So, it must be a conspiracy theory that the media is banned from reporting("election silence") on the Wednesday(midnight) before polling day? And, until the end of polling day? Is it also a conspiracy theory, THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENS IN THE AUSTRALIAN ELECTIONS?? In Israel it is up to two weeks before polling begins.

There are over 35 other countries that ban the media from covering/reporting on the elections, before and during the election. Why do you think that is??


And, a little background as to why, if you have some time.


You should always learn the truth first, to avoid defending lies. I won't bother asking you to explain why you think "election silence" is just a conspiracy theory. Because the facts will just bury your belief fantasy!! There ARE a lot of conspiracy theories out there, BUT THIS AIN'T ONE OF THEM!!
 

DreamRyderX

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Amendment I (1791)
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Banning Media Coverage!!???


Anyone here ever heard of, or about, a RIGHT to the FREEDOM of the Press??

Or a trivial thing like a RIGHT to Free Speech???


In the United States of America, regardless what some may think about our Country, or our Constitution, in the USA....by Law......the government is absolutely precluded from interfering with either of those most precious of RIGHTS of the American People!!!


Banning the RIGHT to Free Speech, or the Freedom of the Press don't fly in the USA!


That's why they are protected RIGHTS, protected & defended in the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.....

And here they are gladly tossed away as meaningless!!???


Is there nothing sacred to you people!!???


 
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Biggles53

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And here they are gladly tossed away as meaningless!!???


Is there nothing sacred to you people!!???
Settle down sweetheart….you doth protest too much…

It’s a simple restriction on election advertising a couple of days before an election. It makes sense. It prevents one side of politics producing a last minute ad that makes outlandish claims against their opponent, giving the opponent no time or chance to rebut…
 

johnsmith

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Settle down sweetheart….you doth protest too much…

It’s a simple restriction on election advertising a couple of days before an election. It makes sense. It prevents one side of politics producing a last minute ad that makes outlandish claims against their opponent, giving the opponent no time or chance to rebut…

ALL election advertising should be banned except for the two weeks prior to the election where each side gets equal time on thelocal, state or national broadcaster, depending on if it's a local, state or federal election.

Stop flooding mail boxes with crap that goes straight in the bin, stop covering every available billboard or wall with meaningless slogans and lies, stop filling newspapers with junk, stop filling my tv time with politics.

If anyone wants to know a parties policy details these days we have websites they can visit
 

Shellandshilo1956

Active member
Banning Media Coverage!!???


Anyone here ever heard of, or about, a RIGHT to the FREEDOM of the Press??

Or a trivial thing like a RIGHT to Free Speech???


In the United States of America, regardless what some may think about our Country, or our Constitution, in the USA....by Law......the government is absolutely precluded from interfering with either of those most precious of RIGHTS of the American People!!!


Banning the RIGHT to Free Speech, or the Freedom of the Press don't fly in the USA!


That's why they are protected RIGHTS, protected & defended in the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.....

And here they are gladly tossed away as meaningless!!???


Is there nothing sacred to you people!!???
First I have to respond to someone who calls the common practice of "election silence" in his own country, a "conspiracy theory". Now, I have to respond to someone so one-dimensional, that he thinks that our Constitutional rights are "ABSOLUTE RIGHTS". Only a totally deluded moron, would think that any of these rights are absolutes!! None of your Constitutional rights are absolute DRX. Even your right to life!! A rule of thumb DRX, your rights end, where my rights begin.

No one is banning anyone's right to a free press and to free speech. Except of course, in your mind. Also, the government is absolutely NOT precluded from interfering with either of those most precious of RIGHTS. Especially when these rights are being abused or violated.

You should really try to understand the Constitution, especially its meaning and purpose. You should also stop parroting out-of-context soundbites and platitudes, as if they are the gospel truth. The Constitution is different than Statute Law.


I guess if you keep telling yourself a lie enough times, it will eventually begin to sound like the truth!

Is there nothing sacred to you people!!???
Yes! To keep an open mind. And, to always grow and learn from our past mistakes.
 
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