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HBS Guy

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More disapprove than approve of the job ’Scummo is doing

By a narrow margin, more approve of the job Albanese is doing than disapprove—a break in a downtrend there.

PPM—’Scummo by a narrowing margin

Manage relationship to China: Labor 37%, Libs 28%, 34% unsure

Scummo preferred PM over Frydenberg then, long way behind, Mr Potatohead.

https://essentialreport.com.au/
 

DreamRyderX

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A poll taken of the general Australian Public on who they prefer as PM is totally worthless because the Australian People do not vote for the Prime Minister......

The only valid poll is the one taken on the date of Election.....The collective voice of the Australian People.....but that's only for individual Ministers of Parliament, not for a Prime Minister.

Too bad the Australian Government/Constitution does not trust it's Citizens enough to permit them to vote directly for their political leader, the PM, but rather entrusts that power of privilege to a backroom full of politically biased players.

Is that the example of cherished 'Democracy' everyone is always pounding their chests in pride over?
 
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We elect the governing party. The executive is accountable to the Parliament. I see nothing wrong apart from we ditch royalty and have a popularly elected Prez who serves for say 2 terms of Parliament and has the powers the GG has now.
 

DreamRyderX

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We elect the governing party. The executive is accountable to the Parliament. I see nothing wrong apart from we ditch royalty and have a popularly elected Prez who serves for say 2 terms of Parliament and has the powers the GG has now.
Not a bad idea.......A Republic.......except when I first came to these beautiful Australian Shores many years ago, being from America, I was extremely excited in & interested in the 'Australian Republican Movement'. That lasted for only 10-15 minutes after I spoke directly to a local Victorian official in that movement, & listened intently to what he had to say regarding the Republican agenda(s). What he was suggesting was nothing more that a carbon copy of what existed then/now, with the exception of the Head of State being Australian. I took exception to his ideas regarding States Rights, & a weak Central Government. Saying I was very disappointed with his vision of Republicanism would be an understatement.......
 

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We are a small country in terms of population and always will be, could do without States, just Fed and (large) local government (councils.)
 

DreamRyderX

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We are a small country in terms of population and always will be, could do without States, just Fed and (large) local government (councils.)
You can't be serious.......increase the power & size of those tyrannical local government 'councils' run by dozens of ruthless little feudal despotic 'Sheriffs of Nottingham'.....basically answerable to no one!???

That would be the death knell of anything resembling a Democracy......even with sweeping Constitutional reform, the People would have less say than they have now!
 
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Yes, it is said that efficiency decreases and corruption increases as you go from Federal to State to Local Government.

Be nice to cut out 1 layer tho and get rid of like 1000 politicians!
 

DreamRyderX

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Yes, it is said that efficiency decreases and corruption increases as you go from Federal to State to Local Government.

Be nice to cut out 1 layer tho and get rid of like 1000 politicians!
Well it can run amok, that is unless you write in State Constitutional safeguards into law, like 'recalls of local officials'.

Such safeguards, if written correctly, could ensure that if a politician doesn't honor their word, or goes astray, the people can petition a recall....then recall them on the spot when the count goes above say 50,000 votes, remove them via a referendum, & trash their useless asses, replacing them with another via a special election held within say 5 or so weeks from removal.....
 
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Yet so many still support the fed government. Can't be that many rusted on supporters. Why can't the truth get through to them??
 

johnsmith

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Well it can run amok

the only difference now is that you have an extra 1000 or so pigs and their staff, and their expense accounts, at the trough running amok, and they get away with it because state blames federal and federal blames state. Get rid off the states and have regional and federal govt. only. Anything extra is just gravy for the politicians
 

DreamRyderX

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the only difference now is that you have an extra 1000 or so pigs and their staff, and their expense accounts, at the trough running amok, and they get away with it because state blames federal and federal blames state. Get rid off the states and have regional and federal govt. only. Anything extra is just gravy for the politicians
Feel free to limit Freedom in Australia by eliminating the States, & State's Rights when Australia eventually becomes a Republic. The voice of the People must always be subservient to Government, or the Crown, & silenced at all cost right?

The subject of States Rights in America will never go that way John, & it has been decided with the ratification of the 10th Amendment.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

State's Rights, & the power to govern was invested in the States by the US Constitution, by & for the American People. The People have the most voice in their futures the closer their government resides.


See: Understanding States' Rights and the 10th Amendment

That said, I would respectfully suggest a topic being opened in the 'US Politics' Section of the forum, rather than hijacking Monk's thread, if people wish to discuss American Politics.
 
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Enjoy your 10,000 corrupt politicians and their 100,000 corrupt staff all paid by your tax dollars.
 

HBS Guy

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Well, I will dream of one day doing away with a shitload of politicians. Your constitution can be a straitjacket too.
 

johnsmith

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Feel free to limit Freedom in Australia by eliminating the States, & State's Rights when Australia eventually becomes a Republic.

is that how you convince yourself of all your stupidity? By pretending that doing otherwise limits 'freedom'? It's like all you Americans have had this drummed into you asa sound reason for letting govt. milk you for all you're worth

Tell me, what freedoms do states provide that cannot be provided by a reworked federal govt.?
 

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I got this from facebook ... says it all really

What a complete waste of time the last nine years have been - Cast your mind back to 2013.
Unlike the rest of the world, Australia had come through the GFC without suffering a recession. At the end of August, net debt was a bit over $161 billion and monthly hours worked per employed person averaged 141.42.
After three terms of a Coalition government, we have endured our first recession in thirty years, net debt is $606 billion, and monthly hours worked per employed person have plummeted to 125.16. Wages are stagnant- adjusted for inflation, Australian wages actually declined in 2021 by 0.3% – the worst outcome in 7.5 years. Penalty rates have been abolished for many low paid workers, and casual and contract work is increasingly the norm.
In 2013, the rollout of the nation-building fibre to the premises national broadband network was underway. Then along came Tony Abbott who thought the interwebby thingy was an expensive white elephant only used for playing games and watching videos – and trashed it.
On Thursday, the Minister for the Digital Economy, the hapless Jane Hume, announced in an address to CEDA, “The Morrison Government has set a goal and is unrolling a plan for Australia to be a top 10 digital economy and society by 2030.”
Good luck with that – we currently rank 61st in the world for fixed broadband speeds. (Though I hear Barnaby can organise something for those in the know – seems we are paying a lazy $520k to hook one of his mates up to FttP.)
In 2013, we had a price on carbon that was causing polluters to innovate to cut emissions, a renewable energy target that was driving investment, and we were considered a world leader in action against climate change.
Now we are known as the Colossal Fossil. Our arrogant disregard brings Pacific leaders to tears, literally. We pay people who promise not to cut down trees they were never going to cut down. We pay farmers not to run stock when they had cut herds anyway because of the drought. Polluters continue on their merry way making up numbers about emissions that bear no resemblance to the truth.
Back in 2013, we had a car industry. But the Coalition hate unionised workplaces so they told them to piss off. They pretended it was about subsidies but that is obviously not the case as they find plenty to subsidise the fossil fuel, agriculture and armaments industries.
Imagine if we had retained that infrastructure and expertise to build the vehicles of the future so we weren’t so reliant on what happens elsewhere or our oil reserves that, for some obscure reason, Angus Taylor chose to store in the US.
We used to have a mining superprofits tax too which was just about to start paying dividends as mines moved from construction to production. Not only did we abolish that and all the redistributive measures attached to it, it seems many of the mining companies now get away with paying no tax at all.
In 2013 there was some optimism that we were on the path towards Reconciliation, that we were finally accepting some responsibility for causing the problems and listening about how to work towards fixing them. Until we were thrown brutally back into the world of terra nullius and Captain Cook and white supremacy.
We used to have a good reputation on the international stage. Now we are known as liars and our crazy Minister for Offence seems determined to start a war with China.
In 2013, we had a female Prime Minister and we subjected her to the very worst our misogynistic patriarchal society could offer for all the world to see. And the treatment of women has only gone downhill from there.
The only positive thing to come out of the Coalition’s term in office was when the voters dragged the government kicking and screaming to marriage equality and the conservatives have been looking for revenge ever since.
It’s time to call quits on what has been the most inept, most incompetent, most offensive, most dishonest, least intelligent, least compassionate, least prepared government this country has ever had the misfortune to endure.
1. Source: The AIMN
 

DreamRyderX

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You're right......case in point, Vlad depends on Centralization.....with him as being the almighty nucleus, around which his Soviet-Style totalitarian empire grows, leaving whatever Freedom & Liberty the People had, in it's destructive wake. The only thing to attract the people will be the tiny morsels of 'Socialistic Free-Stuff' he will have his enforcers sprinkle about, until the people become so dependent on government, his régime, that they become totally addicted.
 
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