COVID19 in Australia

stunspore

Member
Do you know what a tautology is? It's when you say the same thing, but only in a different way. So let me hopelessly ask again. What exactly is an example of what you think pseudoscience is? Here is a hint. Astrology is a pseudoscience! Simply saying, that it is everything I've said, is a bit vague and evasive. Maybe an example of what I've said that is imaginary, conjecture, or just theoretical would help? Maybe you can even mention ONE thing that I've said, that is NOT "mainstream" science! Surely you can find something!

Maybe it is best you cling to the stats that support your bias. Including, all the media half-truths, omissions, opinions, and conjectures, to keep this manufactured viral apocalypse afloat.

My gut apprehension has never failed me before. In this case, I choose to err on the side of caution, and NOT on the side of conformity. Especially, when an entire government is openly coercing and forcing me to stick their multi-billion dollar investment into my body. And, to keep sticking it to me, for the rest of my life. Or, at least for the next 5 years. I want you to just keep an eye on the numbers of adverse events.
Excellent confirmation of pseudoscience.
 

greggerypeccary

Active member
What do you think of the trucker convoy protest in Canada?
I have no problem with people protesting.

However, anti-vaxxers are dangerous - they are literally killing people.

And of course, there's this:

"As well as reported racial and homophobic abuse, some danced on the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at the National War Memorial."

Scum of the Earth.
 

Shellandshilo1956

Active member
A country where people who break the law are arrested? Yes.

They were given every opportunity and still they broke the law.

No sympathy whatsoever.
It is not quite that simple. We don't live in a dictatorship, a theocracy, or an autocracy. People can change the laws they don't want. So, do you think that $13,800 or 6 months in prison is a justifiable penalty for violating a health mandate, based on a health order(similar to violating the traffic rules)? If you think that being dragged out of your family business in cuffs, just because you have not been vaccinated(a mandated heath order), then you are a true politician. They also don't give a shit about other people, or their basic rights either. The only thing important to people like you, is the agenda, the narrative, and to watch other people suffer!

A close friend of mine lost her father to blood clotting complications, 2 days after he was vaccinated. He was never infected!

Why don't we just hogtie anyone without Covid-19 papers, and force them to be vaccinated? Hey, it's a pandemic, right? Like I've said before, this government has done more harm to this country, and the minds of Australians, than any virus ever could. The only people who even talk extremism like this, are religious zealots, racial bigots, and the mentally disturbed. This is just media hype and smoke and mirrors, and you can't see it. The only things that matters about this virus, is how many people are dying, and why they are dying. That's it! No vaccine can stop either. But vaccines(and other heath treatments) can reduce either. Remember, it is the symptoms that spread the virus, NOT THE VIRUS! So, it is the symptoms that are treated.

Just how stupid would it look, for the government to have spent billions of taxpayers dollars on unnecessary vaccines? Buying a vaccine to fight a flu virus with a survival rate of 99%, even without it? Buying a vaccine for a virus, which has never infected more than 1% of the total population in over 2 fucking years? Buying a vaccine for a virus, whose symptoms have been reported in 80-85% of those infected, as being none, mild, and moderate. Yeah! It would look pretty stupid. Now, they must get rid of the 10's of millions of doses of this drug, over the next 5 years. Haven't we learned anything from the WMD's bullshit??

Here is the next stage that I predict. You'll have to start paying for your own fixes in the future. Sorry, you've already opened pandora's box, and you've let the bastards out.
 
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Shellandshilo1956

Active member
Pseudoscience is not supported by data. Your "theories" aren't supported by data.
Yes we agree that a feature of pseudoscience, is that it is NOT supported by the data or by the science. So again, what is the specific pseudoscience that I have been practicing? What are the theories that are NOT supported by the data? What magical, supernatural, or non-scientific insight are you claiming that I'm using? For example, I have stated that,

recovered unvaccinated people do not need to be vaccinated, and why. Science.
the virus is spread by the severity of its symptoms. Control the symptoms, control the spread. Science.
keeping 26M people 2 meters apart, or wearing face masks are impossible to enforce and monitor. Physics/Science.
vaccines do not prevent deaths, serious symptoms, hospitalizations, or spreading the virus. Based on hospital admittance data.
the government has spent billions on these vaccines. So it has its own mandate to use them. Numerous reference sources(Australian Government).
this virus has a recovery rate of over 98%. Based on the daily reported data.
this virus has only infected less than 1% of the population in over 2 years. Current data.
children are somewhat spared from the severity of this virus, because of their highly charged innate immune response. Science/Biology.
the overwhelming majority of deaths are caused by other underlying multiple serious chronic health morbidities. Hospital data.
survival and severity depends only on the condition of the immune system. Vaccines use the immune system. Science, and Human Biology.

So, do any of these claims violate some scientific Theory? What facts, data, and stats, support your pseudoscience claim?? So please, stop making these stupid claims, just because you don't like what I'm saying. Unless of course you can back it up!
 

johnsmith

Administrator
Staff member
just more of the same repetitive rubbish over and over and over.


Are you trying to convince us or yourself?:headscratcher3
 

greggerypeccary

Active member
COVID is in my father's nursing home in Bentley now - 7 cases, I think.

I was there most of the day yesterday and today, and the preparation and work they were doing to contain the virus was quite impressive - military like precision.

I was very worried that Dad would catch the virus and suffer a horrible drawn out death.

Thankfully he won't have to go through that ordeal, as he passed away very peacefully today while I was sitting on his bed.

His heart just stopped. It was peaceful, painless, and dignified.

We both had COVID tests, and they came back negative.

RIP Dad
Cry
 

HBS Guy

Head Honcho 💉💉
Staff member
Yes, lousy news. At least no intubation etc.

Doesn’t matter how old the parent is, still a blow when they pass.
 

stunspore

Member
Yes we agree that a feature of pseudoscience, is that it is NOT supported by the data or by the science.
Glad that it's unanimously agree that you are adept and addicted to pseudoscience. Pseudoscience part is you trying to explain the science with non-science. That's separate from your judgement/evaluation on how critique of government response. Which you mix both in your responses.
 

Shellandshilo1956

Active member
COVID is in my father's nursing home in Bentley now - 7 cases, I think.

I was there most of the day yesterday and today, and the preparation and work they were doing to contain the virus was quite impressive - military like precision.

I was very worried that Dad would catch the virus and suffer a horrible drawn out death.

Thankfully he won't have to go through that ordeal, as he passed away very peacefully today while I was sitting on his bed.

His heart just stopped. It was peaceful, painless, and dignified.

We both had COVID tests, and they came back negative.

RIP Dad
Cry
My sincere condolences! I wasn't even allowed to visit my mother when she passed away!
 

Shellandshilo1956

Active member
Glad that it's unanimously agree that you are adept and addicted to pseudoscience.
What planet do you live on? You are a worse liar than Trump! It is always easy to cowardly accuse people of something their not, when you don't have to prove that they are! Still no answer. What specific pseudoscience am I practicing? Which of any of the comments I've deposited, do you dispute? Why??

Pseudoscience part is you trying to explain the science with non-science.
Just how do you explain science, with non-science? Do you explain gravity using telepathy?? Do you explain thermodynamics as a form of love?? The only thing non-science here, is your silly accusations. And, your dumb unsupported opinions.

That's separate from your judgement/evaluation on how critique of government response. Which you mix both in your responses.
I have no idea what this gobbledygook gibberish, and double-talk even means. But it obviously makes perfect sense to you.

Gee, no surprises here for the gullible!

Australians will need three COVID vaccine doses to be 'up to date', but some changes are still unclear (msn.com)
 

stunspore

Member
It's ok Shell, I know why you can't communicate and understand real science. Not my job to correct your pseudoscience - besides you are fully committed and not open to being wrong. What the aim is, is to protect other possible gullible people falling into the rabbit hole that is the qnon/aluminium hats/5g/antivax conspiracy hole that you're stuck in.

Plenty of mainstream science that has been peer reviewed online that you distrust. Plenty of Craig Kelly/fat dude Christensen science for you to worship.
 

Shellandshilo1956

Active member
It's ok Shell, I know why you can't communicate and understand real science. Not my job to correct your pseudoscience - besides you are fully committed and not open to being wrong. What the aim is, is to protect other possible gullible people falling into the rabbit hole that is the qnon/aluminium hats/5g/antivax conspiracy hole that you're stuck in.

Plenty of mainstream science that has been peer reviewed online that you distrust. Plenty of Craig Kelly/fat dude Christensen science for you to worship.
Do you know who the most dangerous people in the world are? IMHO. They are the self-appointed ideological fanatics. These people have decided, that the only view that matters to others, or should be heard by others is only theirs. And, they will do anything, or say anything, no matter how stupid it sounds, to protect others from hearing any other views. As if this is in any way noble. It must be great to be omniscient and omnibenevolent! I don't know whether to pity you, or pray to you. The truth will become obvious. Even to people like you.

These people avoid all scrutiny, dismiss all evidence, and question nothing they are being told(opposite of what science does). Anyone who ignores the facts, are the gullible people. Invested? It is not me with this poison in my body, or anticipating when their next fix will be. How many jabs do you think you'll need to be safe? As many as they tell you? First it was 2 jabs to be fully vaccinated. Now it is 3. Then it will be 3 per year. Year after year, after year. There are 12 variances of this virus. Should we have 12 different vaccines?? In the end, you won't give a shit anymore, and will just put whatever they tell you into your body! Even if the scientists told you that it wasn't necessary, you would still do it. It's just mass conditioning, and you just can't see it.

I won't bother asking for the specifics of this conspiracy theory, because you are only a parrot, who can only parrot what you're told!
 
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stunspore

Member
These people avoid all scrutiny, dismiss all evidence, and question nothing they are being told(opposite of what science does). Anyone who ignores the facts, are the gullible people. Invested? It is not me with this poison in my body, or anticipating when their next fix will be. How many jabs do you think you'll need to be safe? As many as they tell you? First it was 2 jabs to be fully vaccinated. Now it is 3. Then it will be 3 per year. Year after year, after year. There are 12 variances of this virus. Should we have 12 different vaccines?? In the end, you won't give a shit anymore, and will just put whatever they tell you into your body! Even if the scientists told you that it wasn't necessary, you would still do it. It's just mass conditioning, and you just can't see it.
An example of "this is not science". You're complaining about policy, not science. Having differences in opinion of policies is fine - people have different values. But science is less flexible in the same manner.
 
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