Covid-19 Revisit

HBS Guy

Head Honcho
Staff member
Stupid government agencies—I had to fill out the same fucking forms as I did the first time. Computers are great at storing and retrieving info—they could have preprinted forms with our details leaving me to fill in just the crap about how we felt healthwise. HATE filling out forms with info already in the system!
 

Texan

Active member
My 51 year old cousin is recovering from a moderate case of covid. Her fever of 40C was barely manageable for several days and she almost went to the hospital. She was fully vaccinated in January with the other health care workers. She is the picture of health, lives in the gym, and looks better than most 20 year olds.

I'm 3 years older, moderately overweight and unvaccinated, yet I had much less trouble with covid. My opinion is that the vaccinations are useless at best and give a false sense of security. Almost all of us will get this disease eventually. Protect your vulnerable and live your lives. If you want the jab, take it with my blessings.
 

Shellandshilo1956

Active member
Why don’t you fucking read what is posted instead of immediately indulging in verbal diarrhea?
What the fuck does that mean?? Did I NOT read something posted? What was it that I didn't read correctly? Or, are you just implying that I have?? And, if my constant attempts of asking people to back up their beliefs is just verbal diarrhea to you, then don't read them! And, don't respond to them with empty insinuations and implications.

I promise that I won't be offended.
 

Shellandshilo1956

Active member
Unvaxxed die at a much higher rate than the vaxxed.
Prove it! Prove that these unvaccinated people died because they were unvaccinated? Explain WHY unvaccinated people recover at the same rate as vaccinated people? It makes zero difference if a person is vaccinated or not. Both can be infected. Both have the same B-Cell antibodies to fight the same pathogen. The only thing that is relevant is how robust is the immune system. That is all that matters!

All any vaccine does, is to alert our immune system of a pathogen early. So that it can respond sooner when the pathogens enters your body. THAT IS IT, NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS!! It doesn't prevent you from getting the disease, or from dying from the disease. The mortality rate of Covid-19 has always been between 1-2%, since the beginning of last year. Months before vaccines were even thought of. Tens of thousands recovered naturally in Australia(millions in the US). So what does this tell us.

That it is our immune system alone, that decides whether we live or die from any pathogen. NOT WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE VACCINATED! If your immune system is compromised by other illnesses, already fighting a chronic illness, or is weaken from age or drug treatments, then you can have a hundred vaccines, and you will still die!

But hey, we know that the majority of those dead were unvaccinated? And, that's it?? Wow!!! Sit, Stay. Good boy!
 

Shellandshilo1956

Active member
Hopefully, Pfizer will have a newer vaxx in a couple months with protection from the newer variants of the virus.
So you think that we should be artificially tailoring a perfectly normal immune system, that is already hardwired by evolution, to fight any pathogen or any of their variants? You want to force everyone to compromise their own immune system, by inducing the immune system to start producing vaccine-induced and pathogen-specific antibodies?

Do you think that if we should vaccinate ourselves, from 219 species of viruses that can infect humans? Including all of their variants? How about all of the 5 million trillion trillion bacteria? Even if we could inject ourselves with every virus and bacteria known to man, we would still not be safe from ALL viruses and bacteria. Clearly you don't know how immune system works. Nature needs no help! If fact, eventually the immune system will offer Zero protection from ANY viruses or bacteria. Just leave it alone.
 

Shellandshilo1956

Active member
Vaccines educate the immune system. Anyone over 70 has hardly any immune system left.
Do you want me to show you the stats on the number of unvaccinated people over 70(or even 90) who have survived Covid-19? Even in these age ranges, the vast majority WILL RECOVER!!! I'd have to redo the math, but I think it was round 80%. So NO everyone over 70 does NOT have hardly any immune system left. This is exactly what disinformation causes.

So does all of our natural antibodies. But these antibodies are low affinity and broad spectrum antibodies. These antibodies will respond to ANY pathogen. Or ANY of their variants. This system will also respond to drugs, infections(bacteria), toxins, chemicals, or even foreign particles(splinters). It recognizes, searches, and destroys not only these inorganic substances, but also any substance that contains antigens(viruses).

Just leave this system alone! If people have been convinced by the government advertisers, that this is another product that they need, then that is their business. But the facts convince me otherwise. So don't force or shame me into doing something that is clearly unnecessary and potentially harmful to me. Let me make my own choices!
 

HBS Guy

Head Honcho
Staff member
LOTS of people over 65 think they have this huge, robust immune system. I fact, the immune system starts breaking down when you reach 65 years of age. One clown boasting of his superb immune system refused to believe it starts breaking down in your mid 60s. Probably because he is no longer working he doesn’t get colds and flu, that is not because of a super immune system.

People believe what they want to believe. Some believe a 10th planet has invaded the solar system. . .{sigh} others in defiance of history believe a Grand Solar Minimum brings on an ice age despite the LIA preceding the Maunder by 300 years. Yet others believe they have a SUPER immune system.

Stats show more of the unvaxxed die from COVID19 than the unvaxxed.
 

Texan

Active member
If vaccines are so effective, why is Joe Biden's teleprompter breaking US law to spread hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated illegal aliens all over the US? Here are 10000 Haitians waiting under a bridge for transportation into the US.

 

Texan

Active member
You want them vaxxed before admittance?
My son was forced to get his jab today or face a dishonorable discharge from the military and he just got off of quarantine from having covid 4 days ago. Are they any better? What makes them so special? Current US law dictates that they be shipped back to Haiti immediately. Biden's teleprompter ignores the law. This is an invasion and I won't protest when somebody treats this like an invasion and fights back.

This has become personal and I'm pissed.
 
Top