Covid 19 is profiling conservatives ... More people died in Alabama during 2020 than were born as Covid-19 deaths continue rising in the US

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Biggles53

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Look, if you want to believe that the government is your savior, and is saving us all from dying in this viral apocalypse, that's your business.
You are all over the place. Try picking one argument and sticking with it…
You vaccilate between complaining about the shortcomings of the Covid vaccines (which are shared by ALL vaccines) and the conspiracy theorist’s favourite…’the fascists are coming for you and your family…!’

Pick one…
 

Shellandshilo1956

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So this crap about changing genetics was bullshit spouted by you?

Get the jab, it doesn’t hurt.
Would you please go and asked someone, who actually knows about the bullshit you are claiming. And then come back and tell me WHY it is all bullshit. Surely you must know someone who has finished high school science? Preferably someone who at least understands how protein is synthesized. Because you only sound like someone trying to tell me that the world really isn't round.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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You are all over the place. Try picking one argument and sticking with it…
You vaccilate between complaining about the shortcomings of the Covid vaccines (which are shared by ALL vaccines) and the conspiracy theorist’s favourite…’the fascists are coming for you and your family…!’

Pick one…
Look, lets say that you are just mindless ignorant sheeples, that simply believe whatever you're told, do whatever you're told, and will defend anything you're told. IF you are, then you won't be able to defend any argument without parroting soundbites and platitudes. I've asked these simple and logical questions, because I could be wrong. And, I want to know why so many people are just mindlessly doing something, that if someone came to their door and told them to do, they would tell them to get fucked!

why do I need to infect myself with a disease, that I have a 0.9% of ever catching?
why do I need to infect myself with a disease, that won't protect me from ever getting?
Why do I need to infect myself with a disease, that my natural immune system will respond to anyway?
why do I need to infect myself with a disease, that I have a 99.1% of recovering from, and a 0.8% of dying from?
why should I wear a mask, or be discriminated against if I am NOT even infected?
why should unvaccinated recovered Cov-19 victims need to be vaccinated?
why should people who wear mask, or vaccinated people, need to be worried about unvaccinated people?

These are just basic questions anyone would ask before allowing anyone to stick an experimental genetic altering drug into their body. That is, EXCEPT SHEEPLES. They just do whatever their told. As long as they're told that it's safe. But, the rest of us would like to hear the answers first.

You do understand that all other vaccines do not do what Covid-19 vaccines do? These are mRNA based vaccines. There are no earlier mRNA vaccines. So stop implying that there are others!

 

Shellandshilo1956

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nothing unfounded about my claim. You've left proof of it all over the forum
Lets hear ONE(oh, with an explanation)!

i said nothing about ALL doctors or ALL scientists ... more bullshit from the resident nutter
We have passed whether you actually spoke those words. Try and keep up dumb-dumb. It is not about what you actually said troll. It is about what you meant. I won't ask you to explain what you meant. Because your ego won't allow you to tell the truth. But we all know exactly what you were saying, in your sad, snarky, and sarcastic way.

I suppose without these snarky insulting inferences, you would have absolutely nothing at all to contribute!! Do you even have an original thought in your head?
 

mothra

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Mothra, I respond to you with respect.

I live here among the people. I simply do not see "a tremendous amount of racism" in the people of this country.

Of course, it exists. It probably always will. We are a country of 325 million people. But I think dyed-in-the-wool racists in this country constitute a tiny fraction of the population.
I also think that there is a faction that wants to keep the perception alive that racism in the U.S. is pervasive and endemic. This faction is most visible in the liberal press, academia, and in left wing politicians. They have their reasons, but those reasons are not based in reality. They are self-serving instead, again for various reasons.

Recently, the State of Virginia, once a part of the Confederacy in the Civil War that fought against the Union and for the continuation of slavery, elected a conservative Governor who ran with a black female as the Lt Governor, and they won decisively.

What I see in my country, and in particular with the vast majority of white people, is the manifestation of Martin Luther King's dream that one day, people would not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

It is not the 1950s anymore. Times have changed. That the racism of the past still exists in the U.S. is, in my opinion, an illusion propagated by people who have an interest in keeping that illusion alive.

And on "uneducated Trump supporters" ...

Of course there are some uneducated Trump supporters. Of course! But there are also plenty of uneducated Biden supporters as well. And some of them who are educated are pretty stupid. I will spare you, but I could easily show you a YouTube video of Harvard or Yale (I don't remember which) students signing a fake petition to repeal the 1st Amendment of the Constitution, the Amendment that guarantees the freedom of speech.

And I might add that intelligence is not measured by academic achievement. In your lifetime I'm sure you have known highly intelligent people who didn't have college degrees, just as I have. And I'll bet you've known educated people whose political/social view was messed up.

My dad was an engineer in the nuclear energy field. He was a certifiable genius. He was one of those people who could build computer programs to manage sophisticated processes relating to the running of a nuclear reactor for civilian power generation and for nuclear powered submarines. At the height of his career, people were going to school to learn about the things he and his colleagues were discovering. Furthermore, he was an avid reader and researcher on history and political matters, and, to tell you the truth, his national, social, and world view was utterly effed up. His college degrees and intelligence didn't translate into a realistic view of politics and national policy - at all. Without going into the specifics, it was the most convoluted bs you could ever believe.

And as I write this, I'm reminded of two friends of mine. One with only a high school education who earns a middle class wage. The other has his college degree, and he has built a business which has made him a millionaire.

Both of them are loyal friends and committed family men.

Both of them hold rather whacky political/social views.

Another friend of mine is a successful farmer. He has no degree, but he is highly intelligent. You have to be to be a successful farmer managing crops, water systems, machinery, employees, trucking, and all of the financial end. His mental acuity is amazing.

So much for college degrees as a measure of intelligence, and certainly not a measure of one's ability to form political/social opinions.

Seth

Seth, i reply with respect.

The other day, i read an article about an average American white woman who happened to ask her middle-aged, uniformed, black washing machine repairman what his experiences with racism were. So enlightened was she by his response, she took it to social media and it hit the main stream.

He said he gets pulled over several times a year. Not for speeding or breaking any regulations, but because the cops want to search his repair van and make him provide invoices for everything he's carrying. They get hostile if he asks for a badge number. They ask him if he's selling drugs.

He said that even when called out, he always asks if it's alright for him to enter a home. When asked about this, he just "You learn" ... or words to that effect.

He never goes out after dark. He says "There's nothing for me after dark".

He says most white people are a little scared of him.

You can read the woman's post here:


Now i'm sure that those police officers that pull him over would deny that they are racists. They pronbably never use the 'n' word and denounce the KKK ... but they are racists, nonetheless.

All those white people that are a little afraid of our protagonist? Probably lovely people, all welcoming and accepting. But they are racist.

And it's this kind of insidious racism that permeates not only your but my country. And it does absolutely no good for white people to deny it.
 

Shellandshilo1956

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No one is expecting you to “infect” yourself with a disease..??? Your question (and the three that follow it) makes no sense……..surprise, surprise…

Then exactly how are we eliciting an immune response? Magic?? What is the immune system responding to? Why are antigen-specific high affinity antibodies being formed? Why are muscle cells producing viral spikes? What the fuck do you think a vaccine does in your body? Not a clue right? Surprise, Surprise!!

This is the ignorance that I'm talking about. You just do what you're told, and tell others to do the same. Spreading more ignorance and disinformation! Please, go learn what a vaccine is, what it does, and how it does it. Surely you know someone you can ask, who has at least read a book! Maybe then you might understand, why I call this shit poison!

What about the rest of the questions? Did you just dismiss and ignore them? Is your mind totally closed off to finding the truth? Maybe it IS best that you avoid cognitive dissonance, because conflict can be less painful, than being blissfully ignorant!
 

hatty

cynical profane bastard
I'd like to think that I was the voice of reason, not servitude. Is this another of your sad attempts at arguing from incredulity using another silly straw man? That is, to simply infer that I am wrong, without actually demonstrating how? So, answer me this, my dumb dumb troll!!

Name any of these doctors or scientists that have claimed,

that vaccinated people can't be infected with Covid-19!
that vaccinated people can't die from complications from Covid-19!
that vaccinated people can't spread Covid-19!
that vaccinated people will recover, more than unvaccinated people!
that vaccinated people will be protected from ALL variants of Covid-19!
that this vaccine does NOT genetically induce muscle cells to produce viral spikes!
that this vaccine does NOT produce "adverse events" that can cause death!
what........ like covid?
 

hatty

cynical profane bastard
Good. At least the vaccine will contain a real live strain of attenuated chickenpox viruses. Not, a genetic inducing vaccine to make your muscle cells turn into this pathogen. What else is in the vaccine,

Sucrose. (directly contributes to diabetes and heart disease)
Hydrolyzed gelatin.
Monosodium L-glutamate.
Sodium phosphate dibasic. (is in the hazardous substance list by the DOT and EPA)
Potassium phosphate monobasic.
Potassium chloride.
Components of MRC-5 cells (DNA, protein)
Bovine calf serum.

So, Bon Appétit! Just don't force, or make it mandatory for me to also be vaccinated.




Sorry, you never answered my question. How does the Covid-19 vaccine get healthy normal muscle cells to start making viral spikes? MAGIC!!
sounds like gravox ........ mmmmmmm genetically altering gravox....... purple bounce purple bounce :)

on a serious note...... mrna (sars) vaccines have been around for 2 decades..... its not like they pulled it out of their bottoms.

(haha i said bottom.... i did nae swear once)
 
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Shellandshilo1956

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sounds like gravox ........ mmmmmmm genetically altering gravox....... purple bounce purple bounce :)

on a serious note...... mrna (sars) vaccines have been around for 2 decades..... its not like they pulled it out of their bottoms.

(haha i said bottom.... i did nae swear once)
And, I always thought that you were better than this! Although mRNA as a vaccine was only ACCIDENTLY discovered decades ago, ever wonder why it was never used in any vaccines?? Let's not mention that no other vaccines ever used this method. Lets not mention WHY no other vaccine ever used this method. Until now.

The point I was also making, is that sucrose is not natural to the body. In fact, it is treated as a poison. When the liver sees a sucrose molecule, it simply converts the excess into fat. The liver then stores all this excess fat. The problem is, that over time the liver cells are replaced by these fat cells. Nothing to do with genetics.

Maybe you should stick with the gravox distraction!

what........ like covid?
Would you like to expand a little on that? Didn't think so!
 

stunspore

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Wasn't aware this forum has many pseudoscience people. Sucrose is well analysed and found to consist of 2 smaller sugar molecules - glucose and fructose - which the body will break down into. Glucose is essential - its the primary energy source for the body. And fructose is found in many fruits - which you eat - which for rare people, find it harder to convert to glucose. As with all things, excess amounts of anything is bad - like those people who do the "drink 5 litres of water in 5 minutes" and die. Knowing that someone doesn't understand or trust known science, i wouldn't spend any more time trying to have a rational argument.
Of course, if one was to do the Pete evans thing, humans been eating sucrose for a long time - since plants make this and ancient humans need every energy source they can get their hands on to survive.
 

hatty

cynical profane bastard
And, I always thought that you were better than this! Although mRNA as a vaccine was only ACCIDENTLY discovered decades ago, ever wonder why it was never used in any vaccines?? Let's not mention that no other vaccines ever used this method. Lets not mention WHY no other vaccine ever used this method. Until now.

The point I was also making, is that sucrose is not natural to the body. In fact, it is treated as a poison. When the liver sees a sucrose molecule, it simply converts the excess into fat. The liver then stores all this excess fat. The problem is, that over time the liver cells are replaced by these fat cells. Nothing to do with genetics.

Maybe you should stick with the gravox distraction!


Would you like to expand a little on that? Didn't think so!
shell don't put words into my mouth, i was unable to expand as i was booking my booster appointment..... you're welcome.

however i shall expand on that a little......

all the fucking dead people!

Now i shall make myself some chips and delectable gravy 🍟 purple bounce

I enjoy your posts RE abortion...... i'd love for more from you in the gun thread.... It seems however that you and i will have to agree to disagree on this one.

I just try to bring a little bit of humour, my opinions are mine and you have yours. ( sorry for my profanity) cannae help it.

Happy gravy day and merry christmas :)
 
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HBS Guy

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Once you start on a conspiracy theory there is no end.

Vastly more people have had their lives saved by the vax than those suffering serious vaxx reactions—which happen with every fucking vaccine including the flu shot!
 

hatty

cynical profane bastard
I shall post this on all the forums that i post in here.

I have enjoyed listening to different points of view and have found it on this forum.

My last day of work for the year........ so i shall be away for a fucking while. Tips hat to monk, JS, Mothra,....... and the americans who prevent me from living in an echo chamber.

Merry Christmas everyone!!!!!

(haha the swearing was just for you JS)

 

HBS Guy

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Why spoil decent chips by sogging them down with gravy? Bit of aioli is all that is needed.
 

hatty

cynical profane bastard
hahaha merry Christmas monk.

:oops: oh no....... i tried chips and aioli in Amsterdam..... yeah nah..... gravy rules!!:)
 
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