Covid 19 is profiling conservatives ... More people died in Alabama during 2020 than were born as Covid-19 deaths continue rising in the US

[Shellandshilo1956]

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So where does the video provide misinformation? What specifically is the misinformation that this video is providing?

If you simply don't want to belief the information in the video, then just say it just can't be true(like WMD's). But if you are going to claim that the video is providing misinformation, just because studies show that most videos on the net contain misinformation, then you are just committing a number of obvious logical fallacies. Unless you can provide proof that it is so.

So tell me, where is he wrong? I mean are these people NOT dead from Covid-19? Did these people NOT die from the Covid-19 vaccines? Do the vaccine companies NOT control/influence the WHO, nations, etc.? Where is the misinformation you are inferring? How is 14% deaths before vaccinations in a year, and over 80% deaths 4 months after vaccinations began, misinformation?? I can provide you with many other video to support these claims. Or, should I select only videos that will support your position?

Opinions can easily be controlled and manipulated. But facts and science can't.

 

[johnsmith]

I'd like to think that I was the voice of reason, not servitude

what you'd like to think and reality are worlds apart

Name any of these doctors or scientists that have claimed,

that vaccinated people can't be infected with Covid-19!
that vaccinated people can't die from complications from Covid-19!
that vaccinated people can't spread Covid-19!
that vaccinated people will recover, more than unvaccinated people!
that vaccinated people will be protected from ALL variants of Covid-19!
that this vaccine does NOT genetically induce muscle cells to produce viral spikes!
that this vaccine does NOT produce "adverse events" that can cause death!

and you have the gall to accuse others of creating strawmen ... when did I attribute ANY of those comments to any doctors or scientists?

 

[Biggles53]

So where does the video provide misinformation?

Through omission. To highlight ONLY the deaths that have been related to Covid vaccines is to cherry-pick. Where, for example, is your outrage about the deaths that have been attributed to diphtheria, typhoid and tetanus vaccines? Why are you not waving banners protesting the influence of ‘big pharma’ towards the WHO for these ‘poisons’…?

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

what you'd like to think and reality are worlds apart

Just more crap to distract. Just more unfounded empty insults. The difference between YOUR reality and mine, is the truth.

and you have the gall to accuse others of creating strawmen ... when did I attribute ANY of those comments to any doctors or scientists?

Another disingenuous, and dishonest pathetic strategy. You infer that my ideas are completely at odds with the ideas of ALL scientists and ALL researchers. And when I show you that they are definitely not, or ask you where they are different, YOU SCREAM THAT YOU NEVER SAID THE EXACT WORDS(which no one has said you did)!! Another typical distraction, to protect your zero depth of knowledge, and to hide another concealed lie.

I know exactly what you were saying with your snarky immature smears. Unlike you, I don't need to huff and bluff my way in any argument. The truth is enough for me. If I don't know something, then I keep my mouth shut. And, if I insult you, I'm going to back it up. And since you can't argue against the mountain of facts that I present, TROLLING and BLUFFING, is certainly your only alternative! Right??

Again, NOTHING to learn from you here again!

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

Through omission. To highlight ONLY the deaths that have been related to Covid vaccines is to cherry-pick.

He stated that between Mar. 2020 to April 2021, 145 people had died from Covid-19. He then stated that between April 2021 and August 2021, after vaccines started, 1,022 people have died from Covid-19. What do you think was the point he was trying to make?? Should he have kept that fact quiet?? Remember, this took less than 26 seconds of a 23 min video.

He also mentioned a whole host of other issues. Including, bio-weapons issues. "smoking gun" issues, vaccine type issues, and design and purpose issues. Would you like to address any of those issues as well? Was there something he said that was wrong? Or, do you just not like him saying it? It seems like it is you who is on a search and find mission, to cherry-pick anything relevant to support your own false narrative.

Where, for example, is your outrage about the deaths that have been attributed to diphtheria, typhoid and tetanus vaccines? Why are you not waving banners protesting the influence of ‘big pharma’ towards the WHO for these ‘poisons’…?

Typhoid, Diphtheria, and Tetanus are all BACTERIAL diseases, and are all treatable with antibiotics directly. None are VIRAL diseases, where antibiotic treatment is only indirect. None of these diseases have ever shut down a country, and stripped its citizens of their personal liberties and freedoms. None of these diseases have ever fostered open discrimination, distrust, and division among the citizens. And, none of these diseases have turned a democratic-loving free country, into a fascist authoritarian country.

Since no one IS waving banners, or is up in arms with big pharma about the diseases you mentioned, your question is mute!! They have no relevance to Covid-19, and the mandatory forced vaccination of the globe! If people weren't busy killing themselves with obesity, alcoholism, diabetes, and nicotine addiction, these viral infections would not be a worry in society. Where is your voice here??

 

[Biggles53]

Typhoid, Diphtheria, and Tetanus are all BACTERIAL diseases

Correct. Nevertheless, they can be prevented through the use of vaccines…vaccines that cause side effects, including death. I hear nothing from you, nor the rest of the small minority of Covid conspiracy theorists about ridding ourselves of these vaccines which have proven effective for decades…

 

[Biggles53]

None of these diseases have ever shut down a country, and stripped its citizens of their personal liberties and freedoms.

And here, of course, is the actual agenda…people such as yourself, thankfully a very small minority, just don’t like being told what to do! This isn’t about vaccine effectiveness, it isn’t about side-effects…if it were, you would be protesting the use of ALL vaccines.
No, this is the selfish “my rights, my rights!” crowd we have largely imported from US influences, who loudly proclaim ‘rights’, but have precious little to say about responsibilities…

 

[Biggles53]

mandatory forced vaccination of the globe!

Need I say any more, when we see ridiculous language like this being used…!

Show me ONE person that has been forcibly vaccinated…other than children whose medical care is the choice of their parents! You can’t…because, like me and every other adult, you have a CHOICE as to whether or not you are vaccinated against ANY disease. Yes, your choices may influence your range of employment opportunities, but that choice-employment nexus exists already for a variety of factors other than vaccination status…

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

Correct. Nevertheless, they can be prevented through the use of vaccines…vaccines that cause side effects, including death. I hear nothing from you, nor the rest of the small minority of Covid conspiracy theorists about ridding ourselves of these vaccines which have proven effective for decades…

Correct, Nevertheless??? Did you just dismiss/ignore every fact that I just mentioned? No, you can't prevent being infected by any disease, by just being vaccinated. That is just ignorant. Vaccines can't do that! Vaccines can only give your immune system a heads-up if you ARE ever infected. Whether you become fully infected, or die, depends only on the condition of your immune system(innate and adaptive immune response). Do you understand the importance of anything I've said? There is NO conspiracy here. This is happening in reality, and in real time.

None of these diseases you mentioned have anything to do with Covid-19
None of these diseases use genetic engineered vaccines to induce an immune response
None of these diseases are viral diseases
None of these diseases have the same symptoms as Covid-19
All of these vaccines, except Covid-19, took over a decade to develop
Just because vaccines are proven effective, doesn't mean that THIS vaccine is effective
Just because vaccines cause side-effects, doesn't excuse all vaccine side effects

Who the fuck is trying to rid ourselves of ALL vaccines? Vaccines DO work! No one, except the people telling you this in your head! Do you remember the part why this vaccine is so dangerous, compared to all other vaccines? Or, do I need to repeat them again? Or, do you even care??

 

[Biggles53]

Correct, Nevertheless???

Why the incredulity? I was responding directly to your comment that the sample of diseases I chose were bacterial in nature. That is correct…they are. NEVERTHELESS, they can be prevented by the use of vaccines. Not 100% effective…NO vaccines are…but they act to dramatically reduce the odds of severe illness.
And, if your pedantry demands that I should only choose virally borne disease, then take your pick of mumps, measles, chickenpox, HPV, shingles, etc. All of these are caused by viruses. All of these have had a vaccine produced to protect us from serious illness. All of the vaccines for them have close to, but less than 100% effectiveness.

 

[HBS Guy]

Reminds me, I should get a shingles jab—shingles is not fun.

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

And here, of course, is the actual agenda…people such as yourself, thankfully a very small minority, just don’t like being told what to do! This isn’t about vaccine effectiveness, it isn’t about side-effects…if it were, you would be protesting the use of ALL vaccines.
No, this is the selfish “my rights, my rights!” crowd we have largely imported from US influences, who loudly proclaim ‘rights’, but have precious little to say about responsibilities…

Did any of the diseases you listed do any of the things I mentioned. NO THEY DIDN'T! And, they are certainly more lethal than Covid-19. Remember Covid-19 is less lethal than the measles.

Since Jan. 2020 until now, there have been a total of 251K Australians infected with Covid-19(0.9% of the population). And over 98% of them have recovered naturally. There have been 2,134 Australians who have died with Covid-19(0.008% of the population). This means that 99.1% of the entire population of Australia have not even had Covid-19 in two years. That 99.992% Australians have not died from Covid-19 in two years. This also means that I have a very small chance of being infected, and even smaller chance of dying, from this hyped-up disease. Them's are the facts, above all the hype and fear-mongering.

If you think so little of our basic freedoms and natural rights of speech/expression, assemble/gather, to seek redress of our concerns, to vote, to due process in our courts, to equality under the law, to public protest of our grievances, to freely move within and outside of our country, and to be free from government intrusion into our privacy. If you are deflating the importance of these rights, has just spoiled luxuries, then you might feel more at home in N. Korea. You can't simply take away the rights that people have enjoyed for centuries, and expect people to react just like you do! Indifferent, insensitive, and apathetic!!

The actual agenda is, if you choose to infect yourself with a disease that you don't even have, then go for it. THAT IS YOUR RIGHT OF CHOICE. But if I choose NOT to inject myself with this genetic-altering poison, then either convince me where I am wrong, or leave me the fuck alone. But so far you can't! So, we are left with guilt-shaming, and open discrimination until I comply. And, my responsibility will always start with ME FIRST. My health, and MY right to choose!

This is why you are sheeple, and we are not.

 

[HBS Guy]

“genetic altering poison”

FFS!

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

Reminds me, I should get a shingles jab—shingles is not fun.

Good. At least the vaccine will contain a real live strain of attenuated chickenpox viruses. Not, a genetic inducing vaccine to make your muscle cells turn into this pathogen. What else is in the vaccine,

Sucrose. (directly contributes to diabetes and heart disease)
Hydrolyzed gelatin.
Monosodium L-glutamate.
Sodium phosphate dibasic. (is in the hazardous substance list by the DOT and EPA)
Potassium phosphate monobasic.
Potassium chloride.
Components of MRC-5 cells (DNA, protein)
Bovine calf serum.

So, Bon Appétit! Just don't force, or make it mandatory for me to also be vaccinated.

“genetic altering poison”

Sorry, you never answered my question. How does the Covid-19 vaccine get healthy normal muscle cells to start making viral spikes? MAGIC!!

 

[HBS Guy]

Does the Pfizer vaccine change your genotype, vaccine denier?

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

Need I say any more, when we see ridiculous language like this being used…!

Show me ONE person that has been forcibly vaccinated…other than children whose medical care is the choice of their parents! You can’t…because, like me and every other adult, you have a CHOICE as to whether or not you are vaccinated against ANY disease. Yes, your choices may influence your range of employment opportunities, but that choice-employment nexus exists already for a variety of factors other than vaccination status…

And, people undergoing enhanced interrogation are NOT being forced to talk either. They also have a choice, right? Nurses, teachers, policemen and others, have a choice to do what they are told, or lose their only source of livelihood. Not much of a choice is it? Therefore, not forced, right?

If you want to feign complete ignorance, and believe that coercion, discrimination, and deprivation of liberties have ZERO influence on choice, then that's your business. Reality will still exist without you present.

You have this nasty habit of equivocating everything to something that is not applicable.

When will you stop these silly false equivocations? We are not talking about the purpose of ALL vaccines. We are talking about the efficacy, purpose, and the forced mandates of THIS vaccine. The difference between THIS vaccine and all the others vaccines is staggering and obvious. But, hey, lets not let a little thing like the truth, get in the way of a good story, right?

There are many reasons why a person may choose their employment, or quit their employment. But their choice has nothing to do with Covid-19 vaccine mandates. The choice has already been made for them! You either get jabbed, or you get lost. Simply implying that this is okay, because people get hired, quit, or fired all the time, is just insane thinking!! This is wrong and authoritarian.

What is worst than the government's blatant overreach of power, is that people are still rationalizing whatever civil rights and privacy abuses the government does. Think God for the thousands of true Aussies, who actually DO believe in a free Australia. And this government will be held accountable in the end. This government has done more damage to this economy and the people, than this flu virus ever could!!

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

Why the incredulity? I was responding directly to your comment that the sample of diseases I chose were bacterial in nature. That is correct…they are. NEVERTHELESS, they can be prevented by the use of vaccines. Not 100% effective…NO vaccines are…but they act to dramatically reduce the odds of severe illness.

Vaccine cannot prevent you from becoming infected PEROD! Not 100% and not 0%. It can't prevent anyone from being infected 100% of the time. Reducing the severity of the the illness is only a therapeutic property of the vaccine. For some people it won't. It all depends on the condition of their immune system. Over 80% of people(vaccinated or not) report having mild to zero symptoms. This is not rocket science!

Everything out of your mouth seems incredulous to me. Why you simply dismissed such a valid and important point was incredulous. And then this silly deflection that vaccines will not make us 100% pathogen proof, is also incredulous!

Look, if you want to believe that the government is your savior, and is saving us all from dying in this viral apocalypse, that's your business. If you want to believe that the government should do whatever it wants to save us from this flu virus, then that's your business. If you want to believe that it is the responsibility of all Australians to do whatever they are told, then that's your business. If you want me to believe that any man-made genetic-altering vaccine, is better than our natural immune response to pathogens, then that's also your business. But if you want me to buy into that shit, then you better bring more to the table than, "It true because they say it's true".

 

[Shellandshilo1956]

Does the Pfizer vaccine change your genotype, vaccine denier?

No. The Pfizer mRNA vaccine, doesn't change the original human genome(genotype). It is not a genome editor. We are talking about the PHENOTYPE(expression of the genes) within the organism. Since it is a MESSENGER RNA, it isn't transcribed(read and copied) in the nucleus of the cell(transcription). It is read and copied OUTSIDE of the nucleus. The genetic material on the mRNA is copied by the Ribosomes(translation) to produce spikes on the cell. This is a change(supposedly only temporary) in the normal PHENOME of the normal muscle cell. So yes, it clearly induced a genetic change to the normal phenome of muscle cells. Since muscle cells don't normally produce spikes!!

The problem is the Law of Natural Compensation. That is, when you try to change any biological system, it will resist that change. And, will manifest that change elsewhere. Why do you think that sugar makes you fat. Even when it is an excellent source of energy?

Also, the next generation of cheap vaccines, will be the DNA based vaccines. This vaccine can reach the nucleus. And, yes, this vaccine CAN alter the human genome, and possibly produce mutations. But I'm sure you guys will still be waiting in line for your turn.

Also, what is a "vaccine denier"? Is it someone who denies that vaccines exist?

 

[HBS Guy]

So this crap about changing genetics was bullshit spouted by you?

Get the jab, it doesn’t hurt.

 

[johnsmith]

t. Just more unfounded empty insults.

nothing unfounded about my claim. You've left proof of it all over the forum