Carl Sagan 1995 ... "The dumbing down of America is most evident ... especially a kind of celebration of ignorance."


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It is an arguably accurate prediction of the future from a view in 1995.

Certainly the dumbing down of America is true as ~40% of the population were devoted to POTUS Donald Trump who was a clown and a liar. Even now 25% of the population believe his lies.

Other predictions, such as the decline of manufacturing and the transition to knowledge and service industries could have been inferred from the extrapolation of trends in 1995.

Here’s the complete passage from Sagan’s 1995 book that has some people on edge:

“I have a foreboding of an America in my children’s or grandchildren’s time — when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and whats true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness. The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30-second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), the lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance.


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I know, those youtubes where they interview stupid Americans are hilarious ... and i'm regularly astonished at the results of verious polls canvassing Americans are ..... but ...

We vote liberal.

To quote Karnal, suck it leftards.

We are no better here. We have been dumbed down into a dull stupor for decades. And it's only getting worse with the rise of conspiracy theories.

Just oceans of dumbness. The US isn't Robinson Crusoe on this one.


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Tall poppy syndrome. Easier to pull someone down than raising oneself.
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The phrase ‘tall poppy syndrome’ is ubiquitous in Australian language. It references the idea that poppies should all grow together, at the same height and speed, and if one becomes taller than the others, it will be cut down to size, to maintain the whole crop, and ensure a uniform field when viewed from the outside. When applied to people, the term ‘tall poppy syndrome’ refers to the practice of “cutting down” those experiencing success, by speaking badly of them, sabotaging their work, or implying that there is a reason other than merit for their success.

A recent study led by Dr Rumeet Billan in partnership with Thomson Reuters and Women of Influence has explored tall poppy syndrome and its impact on Canadian women in the workplace, with results which are applicable to Australia, particularly in the female dominated early childhood education and care (ECEC) sector.

Of the 1,501 respondents from a variety of industries, organisations, and sectors, the research found that over 87 per cent of women indicated that their achievements at work were undermined by colleagues or superiors, with more than 81 per cent saying they had experienced hostility or been penalised because of their success. Many of those surveyed agreed that their workplace has become toxic due to the behaviour of poppy cutters.

IMHO.....Forced conformity is not only unnatural, it is repulsive to all those that believe in the basic principals of Freedom & Liberty within a National Unity & Identity.


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Source: The Sector

IMHO.....Forced conformity is not only unnatural, it is repulsive to all those that believe in the basic principals of Freedom & Liberty within a National Unity & Identity.
Trumpers are "unnatural, ... repulsive"? They conform to whatever beliefs Donald Trump demands of them.