Bioethics and Dobbs


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Its impact on the lives of people needing to end a pregnancy will be dramatic. Here we address the obvious impact that the decision could have on abortion access as well as the consequences—beyond abortion care—of such a ban. We posit that an abortion ban would, in effect, mean that anyone who becomes pregnant, including those who continue a pregnancy and give birth to healthy newborns, will become newly vulnerable to legal surveillance, civil detentions, forced interventions, and criminal prosecution. In other words, overturning Roe will provide the basis for curtailing fundamental rights for all people who become pregnant.
Oh yeah—don’t have a partial miscarriage or breaking of the waters before 24 weeks! Cruel and needless laws will imperil the mother’s life without being able to save the fetus!

Twenty-six states are prepared to ban abortion if Roe is overturned (ACLU 2022). Historical data show that sudden elimination of abortion access leads to an increase in birth-rate, as women have unplanned, undesired births (Hord et al. 1991). This brings enormous and dehumanizing physical and psychosocial suffering for those who want an abortion and cannot access one and therefore must carry an undesired pregnancy to term and give birth (Bahk et al. 2015; Barton et al. 2017; Gerdts et al. 2016; Ralph et al. 2019). It will bring suffering in numerous forms including short and long-term economic insecurity—including food and housing insecurity, loss of employment, and bankruptcy, with disproportionate impacts on people of color (Foster et al. 2018a, 2018b; Miller, Wherry, and Foster 2020). It may perpetuate physical violence from men involved in the pregnancies (Roberts et al. 2014). It will also cause suffering for those with pregnancies that are initially desired but become undesired for various reasons, as is the case when families learn that the baby they hoped to have has severe anomalies, including those incompatible with life (Guttmacher Institute 2022; McCoyd 2010).
Disproportionate impacts on people of color—pretty obvious to see why. But, yes, there are cases where a wanted baby does not develop right and now the woman has to carry that non-viable fetus to term. There is no christian love in these laws!

The majority of women seeking abortion care are already mothers; abortion denied negatively impacts the children a woman already has and is known to result in less bonding with the child resulting from the undesired pregnancy compared with a subsequent child born from a desired pregnancy (Foster et al. 2018b, 2019). Since maternal mortality from childbirth is as much as 30 times higher than that of abortion, and more than 40 times higher for Black women, an abortion ban will also bring suffering to the families of women who die giving birth to babies that they never wanted to have (Stevenson 2021).
Would these laws be designed to keep colored people poor, without strong family ties? Is the Pope catholic? Alabama has a maternal death rate five to eight times that of Australia and other Repug states are not far off.

The women forced to give birth get no help, no child allowance at all.

Gets worse.
Historical data also show that the increase in birthrate is temporary; it eventually falls back to baseline, as pregnant women find whatever ways they can to end their pregnancies. The return of birthrate to pre-abortion ban rates was historically accompanied by a rise in maternal mortality from complications of unsafe self-managed or clandestine abortion (Benson, Andersen, and Samandari 2011; Cates and Rochat 1976; Hord et al. 1991; Horga, Gerdts, and Potts 2013). While some people will have the resources and social support to be able to travel for legal, safe abortion care, those who can’t, and who don’t have access to medications for self-managed abortion in whatever state they reside, may resort to unsafe methods. The case of a Tennessee woman who attempted self-abortion with a coat hanger in 2015 (Stack 2017) indicates that not all who need access to safe methods will know about them and be able to obtain them, leading to potentially life-threatening complications rarely seen in U.S. since before Roe (Harris and Grossman 2020).
You cannot ban abortion! You can only ban safe, medically supervised abortions! Only an idiot or one convinced abortion is evil could not work this out.

These consequences will not be felt evenly across the U.S. People with the fewest resources seek abortion care at the highest rates; indeed, half of abortions in the U.S. are sought by those living below the federal poverty level and three quarters of people seeking abortion care report the inability to afford basic living expenses (Foster et al. 2018a). And because economic inequities in the U.S. are closely tied to racial inequities, loss of abortion care and all of its sequelae will be disproportionately felt by people of color.
I got called a racist on Twitter for mentioning the disproportionate effect on women of color off Dobbs but showed I was just stating facts.

birth and abortion ought not to be thought of as mutually exclusive experiences; most women who end a pregnancy are already mothers − 59% of the women under the age of 35 and 89% of those over 35 (Jerman, Jones, and Onda 2016).
Yeah, the existing children of an expectant woman would be badly affected by their mother’s needless death. Or the mother’s loss of employment etc etc.

A woman in an abusive relationship who becomes pregnant will find it impossible to escape from her abusive partner. This shit has already happened in the US!

From the Journal for Bioethics.
The right love to play the race card. They are looking for weakness, they accuse you of something you hate. I just ask why and they go quiet.

And yes, all of this is treating women as property