⮞ Texas Abortion Ban Stays In Effect With Help From SCOTUS ⮜

DreamRyderX

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only because dickheads refuse to do anything about it because 'it's a fact of life'.
No sweet lips, because our American Founding Fathers had the genius to affirm & protect our American Rights so that no future government could ever take them away from the American People without the People's own consent.

That's a 'Fact of Life'.......A 'Fact of Life' you all need to live with, because the American People ain't about to give you the satisfaction in you lifetime!!


Repealing any of the listed American Rights has yet to be tested, but if Americans wanted to relinquish their Rights to Keep & Bear Arms, if it is at all possible, they would have to first remove the Right, repeal the Second Amendment, & then replace it with a modified version much more to their liking through amending the Constitution via the process outlined in the Constitution itself.

Only the American People can accomplish this task via that process. The Federal government does not have the Constitutional power to do so. They are limited to only the powers given to them by the People in the Constitution, & amending the Constitution isn't there, ergo the Tenth Amendment.




Process to Amend the US Constitution:

Someone, a Congressman, a Senator, any citizen, proposes an amendment to the US Constitution. Individually, each House of Congress (The US House of Representatives & the US Senate) must agree to debate, & then vote on the Amendment. Each House must pass the Amendment by a two-thirds (2/3) Super-Majority vote. (435 US Representatives of the US House times 2/3 equals 290 Representatives) & (100 US Senators times 2/3 equals 67 Senators). If Successful in the US Congress then the proposed Amendment gets sent to the 50 individual States, where it requires 3/4 of all the States (50 times 3/4 equals 38 States) to Ratify the new Amendment. At the State level it is either done within the individual State's Legislatures, or if mandated by the individual State's Constitution, it must be sent to the Citizens of that State to vote on the proposed Amendment. Usually the entire States ratification process is limited Seven (7) years.

There are 27 Amendments to the Constitution.

Approximately 11,770 measures have been proposed to amend the US Constitution from 1789 through January 3, 2019.....over the span of 230 years.

Since 1789, Congress has sent only 33 proposed Constitutional amendments to the States for ratification. Of these, only 27 have been ratified. That would have to mean well over 11,000 proposed Amendments to the US Constitution could not be agreed to by a Super-Majority of Congress.

The first 10 Amendments ratified by the States, to become part of their US Constitution (the Peoples Document), were/are called "The Bill of Rights" the Rights of the American People.

So, in over 230 years, only 27 Amendments (17 if you don't include the American People's Bill of Rights) made it through the entire process successfully.

And BTW only one (1) Constitutional Amendment has ever been enacted to repeal another, & never has a repeal of a Right of the People ever been even suggested for ratification by the American People.

The 21st Amendment, ratified in 1933, repealed the 18th Amendment, ratified in 1919, which had instituted Prohibition.
 

johnsmith

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No sweet lips, because our American Founding Fathers had the genius to affirm & protect our American Rights so that no future government could ever take them away from the American People without the People's own consent.
don't blame this the forefathers. The pro gun lobby has distorted whats in the constitution to suit themselves. The forefathers wanted guns to be available to allow for a well armed militia (something that in this day and age is pointless anyway because your gun won't do shit against the governments missiles) not to shoot multiple kids in school yards. Stop blaming the fact that you're dickheads on the US's forfathers
 

DreamRyderX

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don't blame this the forefathers. The pro gun lobby has distorted whats in the constitution to suit themselves. The forefathers wanted guns to be available to allow for a well armed militia (something that in this day and age is pointless anyway because your gun won't do shit against the governments missiles) not to shoot multiple kids in school yards. Stop blaming the fact that you're dickheads on the US's forfathers
In order to know what the Forefathers intended you need to read the recorded documents of the day, not just a convenient Modern Day Progressive Serving Interpretation. When the Supreme Court made it's 2008 decision, they relied on exhaustive investigations of the actual documents of the National Archives.......the Library of Congress.......written when the Second Amendment, & the Bill of Rights, were debated back in the late 1700's, to support the decisions they made.

Now John, regardless of what your hurt lil Progressive tail may be tellin ya, the findings & decisions of the Supreme Court, like it or not, is the Law in America.....period.....there's no appeal.....& only 2 remedies exist if the American People wish change.....the one I posted above, or a new subsequent Court's ruling to the contrary.....period.

Consider yourself educated about our American Law of the Land.

If you wish to discuss this further, rather than hijacking this thread about Abortion Law, I'll start a new thread....a new one regarding the subject of the American Revolution, the American Constitution, & the American Right to Keep & Bear Arms.....the Second Amendment of the US Constitution....America's Law of the Land.....which affirms, defends, & protects an American's Individual Right to Keep & Bear Arms, to be used for specific lawful purposes like self-defense, among others.
 
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johnsmith

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In order to know what the Forefathers intended you need to read the recorded documents of the day, not just a convenient Modern Day Progressive Serving Interpretation
I think the forefathers would be ashamed embarrassed to see just how the gun lobby has twisted their words.
 

HBS Guy

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Will Texas stop oil drilling to safeguard proper development of fetuses? Yeah, right!

Living near oil and gas drilling may increase pregnant women’s risk of developing gestational hypertension and eclampsia, according to a new study.

“We observed for those pregnant women within one kilometer of drilling that there’s about a 5 percent increase in odds of gestational hypertension, and 26 percent increase odds of eclampsia,” Mary Willis, a postdoctoral scholar at Oregon State University and one of the authors of the study, told DeSmog. “So, it’s this really close range where we are seeing a potential impact right on women’s health.”

The study, published in International Journal of Epidemiology in December 2021, looked at nearly 3 million births in the state of Texas over the course of 13 years between 1996 and 2009. The researchers analyzed pregnant women who live within roughly 6 miles of oil and gas drilling sites, and controlled for a variety of potential confounding factors, such as socioeconomic status, demographics, clinical risk factors, and differences in neighborhood contexts where the pregnant women live, such as median household income and proximity to the closest highway.
https://www.desmog.com/2022/01/11/proximity-oil-gas-drilling-hypertension-pregnancy-willis
 

SethBullock

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I have deleted a couple of comments on this thread.

Gun control and abortion are often topics that evoke strong emotions from people. Nevertheless, reasonable people may disagree for articulable reasons. We should consider and discuss those reasons on their merits and do it in some semblance of good taste and respect for one another.

Seth
 

hatty

cynical profane bastard
Righty o then Seth.

You believe that woman's right to choose should be controlled.

You don't believe that the ownership of deadly military grade weapons should be controlled.

Have i got this right?

These two statements absolutely belong in the same thread to "articulately" illustrate hypocrisy and double standards.

It also "articulately" illustrates your need for censorship. If i did that then you would label me a "woke snowflake".

The 1st amendment is great ...... unless somebody says something you disagree with.

Hate speech is one thing however truths are another. Maybe i put my opinions across a little too strongly but it is undeniable that this stuff happens. Just as the suffering of confused young women who have to make one of the most difficult decisions of their lives and are ridiculed, ex-communicated, spat at, harassed, and now possibly arrested, driving them to seek backyard butchers......... ..... Because men, and the spaghetti monster in the sky.

How christian.

Maybe Texas should think about raising their pitiful minimum wage and invent a decent heath care system so that maybe there would be less young women in this predicament..... NUP! more old straight white men arguing about a women's choice.

So..... back to legislation that removes basic freedom of choice..... decided by men, that affects women.

carry on.
 
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Shellandshilo1956

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I have deleted a couple of comments on this thread.

Gun control and abortion are often topics that evoke strong emotions from people. Nevertheless, reasonable people may disagree for articulable reasons. We should consider and discuss those reasons on their merits and do it in some semblance of good taste and respect for one another.

Seth
Thank you Seth. I have never reported anything, or anyone ever. But what this psycho-fanatic moron had posted would be the exception to free speech and expression(a dead baby's head) anywhere on the planet. That was a vision that I may never forget.
 

hatty

cynical profane bastard
Cheers Seth!

I apologise if I offended people with my words. If images were posted that i sarcastically requested then I shall apologise again...... two fold!!!!

I shall leave this thread. Everyone already knows my opinion on the matter therefore i see little to be gained from my soap box
 
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