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Medevac bill passes

Postby mothra » 12 Feb 2019, 19:42

Government loses 'de facto confidence' vote as medevac bill passes – as it happened


An epic fail for the bad guys ... a monumental win for compassion and reason.

And it left everybody a little like this:

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Except for these guys. They weren't happy:


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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby Sprintcyclist » 12 Feb 2019, 19:47

It was a vote against Australias well being
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby Miranda » 12 Feb 2019, 22:31

From the ABC 'The future of the Coalition's hold on power is at risk with the Federal Government becoming the first to lose a vote on its own legislation in almost 80 years.'


I'm glad they lost.
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby Sprintcyclist » 13 Feb 2019, 07:31

I am disappointed.

people smuggler gangs will have already 'sourced' doctors in Aust who will sign whatever paper the gangs give them.

the alp have again handed our border security over to people smuggler gangs
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby greggerypeccary » 13 Feb 2019, 10:23

I suspect Morriscum has already instructed Border Patrol vessels to keep an eye out for asylum seeker boats, and to escort one or two to Australia under cover of the night.

He'll then blame Shorten for starting the boats again.
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby Tally » 13 Feb 2019, 12:52

It was a win for common sense and compassion. Election time please and I hope the ALP also stops using asylum seekers as a political football.
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby johnsmith » 13 Feb 2019, 15:47

Sprintcyclist wrote:I am disappointed.

people smuggler gangs will have already 'sourced' doctors in Aust who will sign whatever paper the gangs give them.

the alp have again handed our border security over to people smuggler gangs


don't be so daft.
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Labor puts out welcome mat for People Smugglers

Postby Julia » 13 Feb 2019, 17:18

There is massive excitement and activity amongst the People Smugglers now that Bill Shorten has put out the welcome mat for the Illegal Invaders.

It is now expected there will be an armada of leaky boats arriving at Australia in a WEEK!!!!!

ScoMo is now ecstatic about Bill's latest election losing bumptious blunder of publicly announcing that Labor will RESTART the BOATS!!!!!

The Extremist Greenies are leading Labor by the snout. This is all manna from Heaven for ScoMo.

What will Newspoll say about this ?   Shorten is even WORSE than Gillard!!!!


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Bill Shorten wants to avoid becoming the WORST PM in Australia's history!!!!



Australia government loses bill blocking sick asylum seekers
12 February 2019

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This comes as a defeat to Scott Morrison's government

Australian MPs have passed a landmark bill with an opposition amendment making it easier for sick refugees held offshore to be treated in the country.

This is the first time in decades a government has lost a vote on its own legislation in the lower house.

The move is a blow for PM Scott Morrison's minority government's highly controversial immigration policy.

Since 2013, Australia has sent asylum seekers arriving by boat to detention centres on Nauru and Papua New Guinea.

Critics say it has harmed the welfare of detainees, including children.

Doctors have long warned of inadequate medical facilities on the islands, while the UN has previously described the camp conditions as "inhumane".

However, Mr Morrison said: "There is no form of this bill that does not weaken our border protection."

Australia has long defended its offshore detention policy by arguing that it stops deaths at sea and disrupts the trade of people smuggling.

The bill passed in the House of Representatives by one vote after the Labor opposition, the Greens and crossbench MPs agreed on last-minute amendments.

It is expected to sail through the upper Senate later this week where it will become law.

Why does this matter politically?
It's hugely significant that a government has lost a key parliamentary vote in its lower house - this hasn't happened in almost 80 years according to the Australian Broadcasting Corporation and comes ahead of a federal election later this year.

In 1941, then Prime Minister Arthur Fadden immediately resigned after he lost a budget vote in the lower house.

Tuesday's defeat comes as a blow to Mr Morrison, Australia's fifth prime minister in six years, and raises questions about whether he can remain in office. The government lost its majority late last year after losing a by-election.

But Mr Morrison has ruled out a snap election, saying last week that he wouldn't "be going off to the polls" even if he lost the "stupid" bill.

"Votes will come and go, they do not trouble me," he said on Tuesday after the government's defeat. "The Australian people can always trust us to... ensure the integrity of our border protection framework."

Mr Morrison's coalition government has to call an election by May.

So what does the bill allow?
Doctors will now have the power to recommend transfers for refugees on Nauru and Manus to Australia for treatment.

However, the immigration minister could ask an independent panel to review the medical assessment, and would have some authority to overrule it.

Previously, doctors had reported that their medical transfer recommendations were ignored by authorities.

Refugee lawyers thus had to apply for court orders to bring ill people to Australia. There were 44 medical transfers achieved through court battles.

Why was there a push for this law?
Last year, Australians were horrified by reports of a mental health crisis among children in detention. Doctors reported affected children too depressed to eat or sleep, and attempts of suicide among those as young as 11.

The wave of public backlash pushed the government to evacuate more than 100 children and their families from Nauru to Australia.

Australia's A$70m asylum payout approved
Advocates warned that a similar mental health crisis, and a plague of other medical issues, was also constant among the 1,000 adult detainees stuck on Nauru and Manus Island.

Hamid Khazaei, an Iranian refugee who died on Manus Island in 2014 from a foot infection, is one of 12 people to have died in the camps. Last year, an inquest into his death found it could have been prevented if he had been transferred to Australia earlier for medical treatment.

Hamid Khazaei died after Australian authorities delayed his medical treatment

How many sick asylum seekers are there?
The government had warned that the bill provided a "loophole" that would allow all of the remaining asylum seekers to reach Australia.

However, it declined to answer whether that meant all offshore detainees were seriously ill.

Medecins Sans Frontieres, which provided mental health treatment to Nauru detainees last year, has noted that depression and suicide ideation was widespread and directly caused by a policy of indefinite detention.



[highlight]Read the rest of Labor's promise to RESTART the BOATS here[/highlight]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-47193899
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Re: Labor puts out welcome mat for People Smugglers

Postby Julia » 13 Feb 2019, 17:20

Labor's Election Losing Posters


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row row row your boat... Labor welcomes you as illegals illegally invading Australia


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SAVE AUSTRALIA - DUMP LABOR in the GARBAGE BIN - They are Extremist Sensible Labor CONTROLLED TRAITORS!!!!!
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby Aussie » 13 Feb 2019, 17:21

You don't get away with multiple Threads here Juliar.
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby Julia » 13 Feb 2019, 17:25

Aussie, well said. But who cares now Labor is already in the dustbin.
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby Julia » 13 Feb 2019, 17:27

Who would have thought lame duck pseudo Sensible Labor Phelpsy would become the pin up girl for the Libs ?

In one deft or daft move she has pulled the rug out from under Bilious Billy who was hanging by his finger nails already after he told the retirees and pensioners to get stuffed.


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Kerryn Phelps and Richard Di Natale help to strip bare Labor’s border policy weakness
Chris Kenny The Australian February 12, 2019

Who would have thought the Liberal Party would owe a debt of gratitude to Kerryn Phelps? The independent MP who snatched the prized seat of Wentworth last year has been thought of as a major irritant to the Coalition — a green Left activist masquerading as a centrist and capitalising on a protest vote to push the government into minority.

But now she has done Scott Morrison a huge favour; she has exposed Bill Shorten and the Labor Party on the central issue of border protection. If not for Phelps, Liberal strategists would now be wondering how they could convince voters that border protection was still a relevant issue at the upcoming election.

The Bill proposed by the Wentworth independent and the inept way Labor has handled it has exposed the reality of this issue — we now see Labor’s border protection frailty stripped bare. For years Shorten has worked hard to demonstrate he could be strong on borders and not have policy dictated to him by his own party’s Socialist Left but now his policy is being written for him by the likes of Phelps and Greens Leader Richard Di Natale.

In a debate that has focused on how laws could be changed to give two doctors the greatest say on allowing refugees into this country, the real political damage for Shorten is that he seems beholden to two doctors — Phelps and Di Natale. Labor is exposed on its historical border policy weakness and, for the first time since the height of the royal commission into unions, the Labor Leader has suffered a serious hit on his authority.

Let us be clear about the Bill before parliament. It is not necessary. It was proposed by MPs — Phelps, fellow independent Andrew Wilkie and Greens MP Adam Bandt — who oppose offshore processing.

The Bill was passed by the Senate last year in a bid to ensure all children were removed from Nauru. Given all the refugee children are now off Nauru, the main impetus for the Bill is redundant.

The argument now revolves around a “medical crisis” in Phelps’ words — but this is political rhetoric rather than fact. Medical services are provided at Manus Island and Nauru and refugees are sent elsewhere (almost 900 have been brought to Australia) when additional medical care is deemed necessary.

It is clear from her comments that Phelps’ true aim is to bring all those held offshore to Australia. “We know that there are just over 1000 refugees on Manus Island and Nauru,” she said on the weekend. “Of those, about a third are considered so unwell that they cannot be treated on Manus Island or Nauru, so that’s just several hundred people, they would be triaged for seriousness, so the most serious cases would come to Australia first for urgent treatment, and then other people as the need arose and as Australia’s resources were able to accommodate them.”

It is not surprising that the former Australian Medical Association president would look to undo offshore processing or that the Greens would work hand in glove with her. What is surprising is that Labor could get itself into a situation where it has voted for these measures already in the Senate and is now desperately trying to negotiate a way out.

This is not a theoretical discussion; we know what happens. The last time Labor said they could weaken border protection without reducing security we saw 800 boats bring 50,000 people so that detention centres were built and filled in every state and in two offshore locations while 1200 people drowned at sea. Forget the gormless politics of this contrived parliamentary debate, what is most troubling is that a party of government would trifle with such matters of life and death.

After security briefings Shorten has proposed amendments to the Bill to increase ministerial powers and limit it to current detainees — an attempt to please everyone and save face. But this will please no-one and just proves Labor was wrong to support the Bill last year in the Senate. To prove he has the strength to lead this country, Shorten should forget amendments, admit his error, and oppose this Bill.

Yet bizarrely — and perhaps motivated by what a disaster this has become for Labor — the Greens have rejected the ALP’s amendments as undercutting the Bill’s intent. So the Bill might be doomed after all, which would be a good thing for the nation’s border security and a great relief for Shorten.

* UPDATE: Shorten decided instead to do a deal with the Greens and Independents, effectively outsourcing and weakening Labor’s and the nation’s border protection. This humiliated the government on the floor of parliament but has gifted the Coalition a major election issue — Labor demonstrating it is softer on border security and raising legitimate questions about how much further it would go in government.

The real political damage for Bill Shorten is that he seems beholden to two doctors — Kerry Phelps and Richard Di Natale.

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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby Bongalong » 13 Feb 2019, 17:55

Juliars epitaph is copper internet lolol :bike :bike
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby Julia » 14 Feb 2019, 12:12

Even the Wall Street Journal mocks slapped down Shorty!!!


Australia’s Strict Stance on Asylum Seekers Starts to Crack
By Rob Taylor Feb. 13, 2019 4:20 a.m. ET

New legislation allows those held in detention centers to be brought to Australia for medical treatment

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Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison speaks at Parliament House in Canberra on Wednesday. PHOTO: ROD MCGUIRK/ASSOCIATED PRESS

CANBERRA—Australia’s parliament narrowly approved legislation to allow asylum seekers held in detention centers on Pacific islands to be brought to the country for medical treatment, an easing of its strict policy toward migrants arriving by boat and a setback for the conservative government, which had opposed the move.

The measure approved on Wednesday is the first weakening of a draconian offshore-processing system for asylum seekers that has been criticized by human-rights groups and the United Nations, but which has won the support of many voters and some governments amid a global backlash against immigration.

Successive Australian governments since 2001 have sought to prevent asylum seekers from reaching the continent by boat, instead intercepting them at sea and transferring them to detention centers in Nauru and Papua New Guinea’s Manus Island for processing and eventual return or resettlement in other countries. Many of the roughly 1,000 migrants still in detention have spent years in those facilities, whose conditions medical staff and visiting experts have described as dire. Some detainees have killed themselves or suffered sexual abuse.

This week, several nonaligned lawmakers sided with the Labor opposition to push through a bill allowing doctors to overrule officials and evacuate seriously ill asylum seekers to Australia, rather than administer treatment in Nauru or Papua New Guinea.


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Detainees stage a protest at the Manus Island detention center in Papua New Guinea in an undated image released Nov. 13, 2017. PHOTO: HANDOUT/REUTERS

“The government has spent a lot of money on medical facilities on Nauru and also at Manus, but there are conditions which cannot be taken care of there,” said Derryn Hinch, a centrist lawmaker who supported the change. The bill passed the upper house 36-34, having cleared the lower chamber a day earlier—the first lower-house defeat on legislation for an Australian government in 80 years.

The loss is a blow to Prime Minister Scott Morrison, who has campaigned for years on border protection and whose divided conservatives face elections in the next few months that polls show they are likely to lose.

Mr. Morrison responded by announcing plans to reopen an asylum-seeker detention center on Christmas Island, an Australian outpost in the Indian Ocean. That center was closed last year due to lack of use.

“My job now is to do everything within my power, and the power of the government, to ensure that what the Parliament has done to weaken our borders does not result in boats coming to Australia,” he said. Mr. Morrison vowed to maintain the naval blockade designed to prevent asylum seekers from reaching Australia.


Asylum-seeker policy has been among the country’s most polarizing issues for almost two decades. This week’s developments come amid heated disputes among U.S. lawmakers over President Trump’s approach to border security, especially his proposed wall on the Mexico border.

Australia’s stance has been praised by some European politicians—including in the U.K., Austria, Denmark, Belgium, France and the Netherlands—as a potential answer to the refugee crisis in the Mediterranean. In December, Denmark announced plans for an offshore detention center to house “unwanted” migrants, with the government acknowledging the inspiration came from Australia.

Amnesty International’s refugee coordinator, Graham Thom, said the passage of the medical-transfers bill was a potentially significant moment, signaling political recognition of shifting voter attitudes on asylum seekers.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/australias-strict-stance-on-asylum-seekers-starts-to-crack-11550049654


Now for some COMMENTS from the YANKS (Are the Lefties cringing ?)

Vince Austin 3 hours ago
The Australian Labor Party and Australian Greens are the equivalent of Democrats and American Greens. Both are leftist. Both are for no borders. Both have Marxist intent. Both rely on Islamic enclaves and illegal immigrant voters to boost their vote numbers.  Both are pushing for the equivalent of AOC's Green New Deal in Australia. The illegal immigrants never assimilate, never learn English, live off welfare from the time they arrive, live by Shariah law, and then subsequently visit relatives in the countries they "fled" from. The Australian euphemism is applied is "boat refugees". The American euphemism applied is "caravans". Same issue, same results, same political motivations, different mode of transport.


Justin Murray 7 hours ago
Australia should deny any asylum seeker that isn't from a nation with a physical border. Anyone who goes to Australia has to bypass numerous, perfectly safe jurisdiction for the application. Per UN rules, any asylum seeker that bypasses a closer jurisdiction is disqualified for asylum.
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby Julia » 14 Feb 2019, 12:14

The shocked and shuddering Lefties are making up unbelievable excuses for Shorty's massive stuff up.

Will ScoMo tell the Navy to let a few boats thru to frighten the glue out of the voters ?

Do you reckon lame duck pseudo Sensible Labor Phelpsy actually realizes what she has done ?

Is this all a plot to try to put the Extremist Greenies AHEAD of Labor ?

Back then Gillard was Bob Brown's puppet. Now is Bill Shorten Phelpsy's or Doc Dick's puppet ?

Gosh all my predictions about Labor are coming true. Whatever will the next NewsPoll say about all this ? ScoMo leaving Shorty in the dust ?


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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby greggerypeccary » 14 Feb 2019, 12:15

Julia wrote:
New legislation allows those held in detention centers to be brought to Australia for medical treatment




Good news.
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby greggerypeccary » 14 Feb 2019, 12:16

Julia wrote:
Will ScoMo tell the Navy to let a few boats thru to frighten the glue out of the voters ?




Yes.

Yes he will.

That's just the sort of evil, corrupt politician he is.
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby Julia » 14 Feb 2019, 13:01

The sheer brilliance of Abbo ScoMo and Dutto are recognized way over there in Indonesia.

But the Indons are very excited at how Shorty is preparing to throw the gates wide open for an open slather on illegals illegally invading Australia.




Manus and Nauru do not stop the boats, say asylum seekers in Indonesia
By Kieren Kresevic Salazar August 25, 2018 — 11.55pm

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Farahnaz Salehi, 20, has been in Indonesia since she fled her home aged 15. CREDIT:JANBAZ SALEHI

Asylum seekers in Indonesia say they will no longer attempt to reach Australia by boat because the federal government turn-back policy has been so effective.

The representatives of asylum seekers say this would not change even if refugees and asylum seekers on Nauru and Manus Island were resettled.

The boat turn-back strategy – a crucial part of the Abbott government’s signature policy Operation Sovereign Borders and implemented by then immigration minister Scott Morrison – is repeatedly cited as the reason why Australia is no longer considered a viable destination.

Asylum seekers say the message that Australia ‘‘is closed’’ has also been successfully reinforced by an extensive advertising campaign. And no one is prepared to spend the thousands of dollars to buy passage on a dangerous boat when it will be turned back.

Domestically, the fate of refugees on Nauru and Manus Island continues to play into political and humanitarian concerns.

A 12-year-old had to be medically evacuated from Nauru to Brisbane last week after refusing to eat for 20 days. Another seriously ill child has reportedly been ordered off Nauru by an Australian court on Friday.

Turn-backs ... That’s the reason, not keeping people in offshore detention.

Mozhgan Moarefizadeh, an Iranian refugee and advocate.
Former home affairs minister Peter Dutton argued in June that the ‘‘single act of compassion’’ of bringing 20 seriously ill asylum seekers to Australia from Manus Island and Nauru for medical treatment would be seen by people smugglers as an open invitation to re-start their trade.

But asylum seekers say the Nauru-Manus deterrent plays no part.

‘‘Making [Nauru and Manus] like a zoo that everyone is seeing around the world, [saying] ‘Don’t come to Australia or else this happens to you’ – this is not the thing that is impacting people not to come,’’ said Mozhgan Moarefizadeh, an Iranian refugee and advocate.

Moarefizadeh said the decisive factor was “[Boat] turn-backs ... That’s the reason, not keeping people in offshore detention.”

Moarefizadeh, tried and failed three times to reach Christmas Island by boat in 2013, before the boat turn-backs began late that year.

“It was seeing what’s going on and hearing the news and we were like, ‘OK then, it’s risky, it’s dangerous, crossing the sea is not a joke in those kinds of boats'.

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Mozhgan Moarefizadeh, an Iranian refugee who is stuck in Indonesia.

“'And people are saying that even if you make it there, you’ll be turned back, so what’s the point in going'?” said Moarefizadeh, who went on to co-found the Refugee and Asylum Seeker Information Centre to help others in her position access legal aid and community support in Indonesia.

“Australia is not accepting people. Their border is closed. That’s it, we don’t go,” she said.

Shawji Ramadhan, a Sudanese refugee and former microbiologist who has been in Indonesia since 2011, agrees that Manus Island and Nauru are simply not on the minds of refugees and asylum seekers in Indonesia. “I think Australia is thinking, ‘If I take those people [in offshore detention] to Australia, maybe a lot of people [will be] coming again’,” Mr Ramadhan said.


Read the rest of this glowing endorsement of Abbo ScoMo and Dutto here

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/manus-and-nauru-do-not-stop-the-boats-say-asylum-seekers-in-indonesia-20180823-p4zzde.html?fbclid=IwAR07ZfOmCOGhRK9LxzfVzaDtobarSUU_D54eKuVqlx5d4P6zpYIXcchNHGg
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby mothra » 14 Feb 2019, 13:12

Well, well, well:


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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby hatty » 14 Feb 2019, 14:30

Great news!!

oooohhhhh shit labor wanting to help sick kids.

ILL CHILDREN!

Wtf Julia......... do you even have a beating heart?
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby Sprintcyclist » 14 Feb 2019, 14:52

hatty wrote:Great news!!

oooohhhhh shit labor wanting to help sick kids.

ILL CHILDREN!

Wtf Julia......... do you even have a beating heart?


their parents did this to their own kids

the libs ensure it happens less often
the alp encourage it
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby johnsmith » 14 Feb 2019, 15:02

Sprintcyclist wrote:
hatty wrote:Great news!!

oooohhhhh shit labor wanting to help sick kids.

ILL CHILDREN!

Wtf Julia......... do you even have a beating heart?


their parents did this to their own kids

the libs ensure it happens less often
the alp encourage it



no, pretty sure it was the work of Turdball/ Abbott/ Dutton and Scomo
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby Sprintcyclist » 14 Feb 2019, 17:00

the parents put their kids in the hands of people smugglers to illegally enter Australia
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby johnsmith » 14 Feb 2019, 17:13

Sprintcyclist wrote:the parents put their kids in the hands of people smugglers to illegally enter Australia


better they leave them in the hands of dictators to be killed? :h
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Re: Medevac bill passes

Postby Sprintcyclist » 14 Feb 2019, 23:16

johnsmith wrote:
Sprintcyclist wrote:the parents put their kids in the hands of people smugglers to illegally enter Australia


better they leave them in the hands of dictators to be killed? :h


if the kids futures are i) be killed by a dictator
ii) be an illegal

maybe the parents should not have them




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