10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby HBS Guy » 15 Apr 2018, 09:29

Now I get it – it took a while for the light to dawn. Silly me!

Dutton’s department actually obeying the Federal Court, for once, and allowing a refugee child into the country for medical treatment, the interview with Dutton the other day where he said he would like to be PM ‘one day’, the article by Phil Coorey telling us Dutton is a real statesman, Dutton’s department knocking back a few white South African would-be refugees, it’s all so obvious. How could I have missed it?

Just join the dots. Dutton is preparing to become leader. He’s softening his image, just a little bit, he’s doing interviews, he’s trying to appear leader-like.

No wonder there’s talk among Liberal MPs about Turnbull going to an early election.


https://pbxmastragics.com/2018/02/21/extended-thread/comment-page-32/#comment-291043

Might be an idea to track what humane things Dutton might be doing.
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby Dax » 15 Apr 2018, 12:53

HBS Guy wrote:{sigh} no such thing as illegal entry for purpose of seeking asylum. We signed up to the UN Convention on Refugees.

Even irregular arrival (boat, now plane with dodgy 457 type visa) is NOT illegal.


These ideological economic misfits, paid many thousands of dollar to be brought by boat to Aus and they traveled through many countries of their own religion. The UN convention on refugees policy, states they should be accepted into the first safe country to where they fled from. Yet they traveled through many islamic countries to get to Aus, so in reality they don't fit the accepted refugee category. No different to the idiots who class Islam, or judaism as being a race, when all they are is deluded violent ideologies.

If they were genuine, they would either be in a refugee camp going through the process, or could pay for an air fare to Aus and them ask for asylum on landing. The problem is they would have been rejected at the airport and returned to a refugee camp to be processed, they only get in because the insane ideological do gooders, kick up a fuss and the governments do their bidding to keep in power.

Speak to just about any sane Aussie and they all say to send them all back. It's only the deranged PC crowd and deluded ideologues that are happy to contribute to the destruction of our lands and society by bringing in clearly very primitive minded wastes of space. All they do is add to the growing welfare debt, cultural disruption and crime rates, nothing else do they have to offer.

The we have the convention itself, which deals exclusively with events previous to 1951, not after.

"B. (1) For the purposes of this Convention, the words "events occurring before 1 January 1951" in article 1, section A, shall be understood to mean either (a) "events occurring in Europe before 1 January 1951"; or (b) "events occurring in Europe or elsewhere before 1 January 1951"; and each Contracting State shall make a declaration at the time of signature, ratification or accession, specifying which of these meanings it applies for the purpose of its obligations under this Convention. "

"Article 9 - Provisional measures

Nothing in this Convention shall prevent a Contracting State, in time of war or other grave and exceptional circumstances, from taking provisionally measures which it considers to be essential to the national security in the case of a particular person, pending a determination by the Contracting State that that person is in fact a refugee and that the continuance of such measures is necessary in his case in the interests of national security."

"Article 31 - Refugees unlawfully in the country of refuge

1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of article 1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence.

2. The Contracting States shall not apply to the movements of such refugees restrictions other than those which are necessary and such restrictions shall only be applied until their status in the country is regularized or they obtain admission into another country. The Contracting States shall allow such refugees a reasonable period and all the necessary facilities to obtain admission into another country. "

"Article 32 - Expulsion

1. The Contracting States shall not expel a refugee lawfully in their territory save on grounds of national security or public order."

People need to read what they are supporting, instead of jumping on their delusional bandwagon. We have no obligation to muslims coming here, who have come through many other countries, They don't come directly to Aus, but indirectly, so are ineligible. We can throw them out if they cease public disorder and more than 95% do that simply by demanding they be allowed to change suburbs, our society and commit crimes.

It's understandable when you look at the condition of our society and the depth of denial everyone is in, that they think supporting the destruction of Aus society the environment and viable future, is cool. Nothing like contributing to your own suicidal demise, but history shows us ideologues are the best and self destruction through their denial of reality and our society is falling apart rapidly.
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby HBS Guy » 15 Apr 2018, 13:23

Malaysia and Indonesia will not let ASs settle into their countries: ASs can’t work etc.

You are wrong about all this.

If people have the money to travel to Indo, say, live there awhile (not working, remember) then pay a people smuggler—make more sense if we took them and their money in. They soon have their own businesses going, etc.
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby Dax » 16 Apr 2018, 06:52

HBS Guy wrote:Malaysia and Indonesia will not let ASs settle into their countries: ASs can’t work etc.

You are wrong about all this.

If people have the money to travel to Indo, say, live there awhile (not working, remember) then pay a people smuggler—make more sense if we took them and their money in. They soon have their own businesses going, etc.


Of course I may be wrong about all this, yet it make no sense whatsoever to continue to tax out fragile environment with more people. Especially those those that wish to change or society into the one they left. As for them creating business, muslims businesses and enclaves. resulting in increase crime rates.

If I'm wrong, then it will be well for everyone, but if I'm right, we will see what is happening in Europe and every religiously controlled country on the planet. You'd find it hard to find one Muslim country not involved in terrorism, religious violence, suppression, child abuse.
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