Why did labor lose ?

Re: Why did labor lose ?

Postby Sprintcyclist » 28 May 2019, 20:30

there was another talkback on the radio this afternoon.
Many long term alp supporters rang up, they have deserted the ALP

they are very disappointed and I sense may be hard to coax back
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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Postby johnsmith » 28 May 2019, 20:32

chris155au wrote:So why aren't Labor saying the same?


because they think they lost the 2013 election because of asylum seekers. The only way to not make it an issue in future is to have the same policy as the libs. They can hardly criticise a policy they've adopted.

chris155au wrote:And essentially taking over the sovereign waters of another country, which is a border line act of war!

as long as they stay in international waters, the other countries can't complain. Whilst they stay in international waters, it is piracy.
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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Postby Sprintcyclist » 28 May 2019, 20:42

because I did not want to give the UN $500M of my taxes. how will that help anyone?
the alp never asked me

because I did not want to fund a 'sex orientation' commissioner. what perverse ideas will that bring.
how much was that going to cost me?
the alp never asked me.

because the alp picked a 'pie in the sky figure' for emissions reduction.
then they could not give a figure on how much this was to cost.

because the alp wanted to quash chances for many people to improve their lot.
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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Postby greggerypeccary » 29 May 2019, 08:41

chris155au wrote:
greggerypeccary wrote:
No upside?

Have you forgotten this:

"One of the Liberals’ leading conservatives and Australia’s 28th prime minister, Tony Abbott, has lost his blue-ribbon Sydney seat of Warringah after moderate Liberal voters abandoned him in protest at the role he played in opposing climate change action."

:bgrin


What about it? Who even wrote that?


What about it?

It's the best political news we've had for ages.

Abbott is gone :bgrin

It was written by Anne Davies, if you must know.

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2019/may/18/australian-election-tony-abbott-loses-his-warringah-seat-to-zali-steggall
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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Postby Sprintcyclist » 31 May 2019, 19:48

Labor to block income tax cuts
MAY 24, 2019
Labor is considering rejecting Scott Morrison’s mandate to deliver his full $158 billion in personal income tax cuts while flagging a dramatic shift on climate change policy.

Conservative Party leader Cory Bernardi says he will support the entire tax cut package and has urged the government to cut even deeper if possible.

The Australian reports, incoming Labor leader Anthony Albanese yesterday warned that Labor could try to block the government’s full $158bn in income tax cuts in a move that could force the government to split the bill or rely on crossbench support to get it through the Senate.

Mr Albanese, who is expected to take the Labor leadership unopposed on Monday , said he would support the first stage of the government’s tax cuts, but refused to immediately endorse stages two and three of the plan, which favour higher income earners and are due to commence on July 1, 2022, and July 1, 2024, respectively.

The warning came as Labor environment spokesman Tony Burke suggested the party needed to rethink its support for market based mechanisms to cut carbon emissions, after its plan to use of international carbon credits to cut emissions was rejected by voters amid a row over the cost of the policy.

Labor became bogged down in the election campaign over its “uncosted” plan to lower carbon emissions by 45 per cent by 2030.

Labor’s first major decision following its disastrous election loss will be whether to support the government’s tax cuts from its April 2 budget.

The government hopes to bring the legislation to a vote before the current Senate dissolves on June 30, where it needs the support of nine of 10 crossbenchers if Labor and the Greens oppose the bills.

The new Senate, which will be sworn in after July 1, is looking more favourable for the government , which will need to gain the support of only four of six crossbenchers to pass legislation.

Josh Frydenberg warned Labor against defying the will of the people.


they lost because the deserved to lose

they have hurt Australia for too long
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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Postby johnsmith » 31 May 2019, 19:53

labor should oppose it ... labor should oppose everything the libs put forward.

It's how the libs always operate and it wins them elections, so why not adopt their philosophy
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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Postby HBS Guy » 31 May 2019, 20:35

What fucking mandate?
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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Postby Sprintcyclist » 01 Jun 2019, 10:02

johnsmith wrote:labor should oppose it ... labor should oppose everything the libs put forward.

It's how the libs always operate and it wins them elections, so why not adopt their philosophy


I think that is a very poor attitude
Counter productive and against Australias best interests.

That is why Labor lost
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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Postby HBS Guy » 01 Jun 2019, 12:35

It is what abbott did as LOTO.
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Re: Why did labor lose ?

Postby johnsmith » 01 Jun 2019, 16:15

Sprintcyclist wrote:
johnsmith wrote:labor should oppose it ... labor should oppose everything the libs put forward.

It's how the libs always operate and it wins them elections, so why not adopt their philosophy


I think that is a very poor attitude
Counter productive and against Australias best interests.

That is why Labor lost



i don't see you complaining when the libs do it. ... the opposed so many of labors policies that they then introduced themselves when they came in govt. Fark em.
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