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HBS Guy wrote:Oh dear, salt and grass not a good mix, unless you are talking kikuyu.
HBS Guy wrote:Hmmm had a thought just now, dangerous I know.
johnsmith wrote:hey monk
my vege patch is looking a bit barren
what do you suggest I plant coming into winter?
Try to keep in mind that it's not going to snow here anytime soon. Our winters are fairly mild
HBS Guy wrote:Kale, cabbage, brussel sprouts, apples, pears, quince, cherries—well, those are my thoughts.
HBS Guy wrote:Well, they are on my mind.
You will just have to cover over and refrigerate your backyard!
HBS Guy wrote:Give them a go: be VERY wary of shoots from the rootstock shooting up and replacing the grafted stem/branches.
Granny Smiths, in a shady spot in winter could be doable, does not need much chill at all to break dormancy.
HBS Guy wrote:But you have a shitload of palms that you LOATHE!
Has the missus said: do NOT dare to cut the palm trees, arsewipe!”?
HBS Guy wrote:Book on espalier training on its way!
John can thin the palm trees, use them as posts. Some wire netting and his fruit will be safe from feathered, four and two legged fruit thieves! That just leaves the refrigeration etc etc.
HBS Guy wrote:Got the Espalier book, will be handy.
Search Ebro™ espalier system. This is the best picture I could find on the web and it is crap:
Each of the four levels is flat with 6 wires under it so there is a lot of tree there, lots of fruit and none higher than 1.8m—bloody good!
I toyed for a while with making the two cider apple rows three using Ebro espalier. Could do it, keeping the spots I have worked on for planting the trees I will have there in September. That will allow 2 x 3 + 1 x 7 = 13 more cider apple trees. Maybe in the front yard when the house is built? Get the local yokels whispering again![]()
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Nah, too much work and I do not have enough time, 2 weeks last year, 4 weeks this year to establish fruit trees on a virgin block that has heavy, alkaline clay is ridiculously short. I could do without the extra expense too: would need another 9 posts, close to $200 plus hire of an auger, labor etc. Nah.
Plant the trees I got, the ones I ordered, make a simple espalier using say two or three or four wires each at 60cm, 100cm, 1400cm and 1800cm on row 5 where the beurre bosc etc pears will go. I say make, will get a carpenter to make it, allowing for where the posts are not exactly in a line. Bang in a couple long star droppers (need to be 1m deep or the clay will heave them out the ground eventually!) in the middle between two posts and wire some connection between them to carry the multiple wires at each height. Maybe star droppers at 2 metres from each post, then have three segments of 2m each. Easy.![]()
Beurre Hardy
Ripens: March
This late ripening pear originates in the Anjou region of France where many of our best pears come from. It's a medium sized roundish pear with a deep orangy brown skin with a fair amount of russet. The yellowish-white flesh is fine, juicy, and of excellent flavour. Bears heavily and crops regularly. An instant favourite! Cooks well. Pollination by any...
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