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HBS Guy wrote:I think boys need an initiation into manhood. Stopping Guy Fawkes night was a very bad thing IMHO.
As you got older you could light more and more of the crackers etc. Now initiation seems to be getting drunk then driving.
As to gender roles, who knows? To what extent might they be innate?
mothra wrote:HBS Guy wrote:I think boys need an initiation into manhood. Stopping Guy Fawkes night was a very bad thing IMHO.
As you got older you could light more and more of the crackers etc. Now initiation seems to be getting drunk then driving.
As to gender roles, who knows? To what extent might they be innate?
I quite agree. My son is going on a special camp set up by the men in the community in a year or two. They run it every year. It's quite brilliant.
As to gender roles being innate, i would modify that slightly to say that qualities of what are traditionally called the masculine and the feminine are innate yet each of us falls into our own point on a spectrum ranging between what is typified by those qualities. It is demonstrably so because more and more people are telling us every day that they feel comfortable with behaviours or actions that are not representative of their outward biology.
But you must concede that much is social construct. It explains too much for it not to be so.
HBS Guy wrote:Yeah, I suppose Father works and Mother runs the household is still common, if not in reality on the telly, books etc.
MilesAway wrote:Without men, ...then what?
DonDeeHippy wrote:As my Hero Ben Lee sings...
Boys with their barbies
and girls with toy army's
I guess kids r going to emulate those that teach them....
ohh shit another song... cats in the cradle, id better stop or it will get worse.
DonDeeHippy wrote:cats in the cradle
johnsmith wrote:MilesAway wrote:Without men, ...then what?
no one suggested we do away with men
DonDeeHippy wrote:As my Hero Ben Lee sings...
Boys with their barbies
and girls with toy army's
I guess kids r going to emulate those that teach them....
ohh shit another song... cats in the cradle, id better stop or it will get worse.
DonDeeHippy wrote:DonDeeHippy wrote:As my Hero Ben Lee sings...
Boys with their barbies
and girls with toy army's
I guess kids r going to emulate those that teach them....
ohh shit another song... cats in the cradle, id better stop or it will get worse.
Aussie wrote:Hands up if your Parents would have read a book like that back in the 50s.
mothra wrote:I am a huge fan of this book. Highly recommend it to anyone dealing with boys:
https://www.bookdepository.com/Raising-Boys-Steve-Biddulph/9781607746027?redirected=true&utm_medium=Google&utm_campaign=Base1&utm_source=AU&utm_content=Raising-Boys&selectCurrency=AUD&w=AF45AU96S4GC5ZA80RH1&pdg=pla-104399158419:kwd-104399158419:cmp-680104063:adg-37898644947:crv-151944074570:pid-9781607746027:dev-c&gclid=Cj0KCQjwjN7YBRCOARIsAFCb934DI8VyWmHW-VhInxnz0AqRtqKQRIrjA_OoEXKFQfBxGT28rUD2VegaAm38EALw_wcB
mothra wrote:Aussie wrote:Hands up if your Parents would have read a book like that back in the 50s.
Think there might be a few more things to consider and navigate than in the '50s?
Moreover, how did not talking about things work out for us?
Sprintcyclist wrote:Boys are very sensitive.
Our emotional side needs care from other males.
Sprintcyclist wrote:Boys are very sensitive.
Our emotional side needs care from other males.
mothra wrote:Sprintcyclist wrote:Boys are very sensitive.
Our emotional side needs care from other males.
Indeed. I think you would enjoy this article, Sprint. It's wonderful.
http://polanimal.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4273
Bongalong wrote:Sprintcyclist wrote:Boys are very sensitive.
Our emotional side needs care from other males.
What the fuck are on about dickface?
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