Federal Election 2019

Federal Election 2019

Postby HBS Guy » 29 Mar 2019, 03:20

Likely to be held 19 May. Morriscum could hold a half Senate election in May and a House-only election in November if he is desperately hoping something will turn up to save the Libs and his Prime Ministership. That would be beyond desperate—voters do not like having to vote twice in one year!

In Victoria blue ribbon Lib seats could fall if One Nation is not put last on the Libs’ How to Vote card. Good stuff.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/03/27/bloodbath-victoria-liberals-one-nation/

Normally I have a thread on “Issues” but we all know the LNP is a tired, corrupt shambles of a govt that should be put out of its misery ASAP.
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby hatty » 29 Mar 2019, 07:50

I hope they get wiped out......

however NSW has me a little less certain than i was that they will

(just trying the old reverse jinx trick).

keep slinging me the good stats monk
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby greggerypeccary » 29 Mar 2019, 08:09

HBS Guy wrote:Likely to be held 19 May.


Typo there.

May 18

It's either the 18th or the 25th, but most money is on the 18th.

Can't come quick enough.

What's that, like 7 weeks away?
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby Dax » 29 Mar 2019, 15:22

greggerypeccary wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:Likely to be held 19 May.


Typo there.

May 18

It's either the 18th or the 25th, but most money is on the 18th.

Can't come quick enough.

What's that, like 7 weeks away?


Can't stop laughing, all the election will do is return to the same old same and in 3 years you'll all be complaining about labor and can't wait for the next election. It's called the merry go round of life, which all clones are trapped in going round and round. Nothing like living in a revolving door and thinking, you're on the straight and narrow.

Only way I'd be happy with a coming election, is if I knew we would get rid of the current party system and have something decent, meaningful and truly representative of the peoples wishes.

All the parties are the same, they will form government with whoever will give them power, no matter what their policies are. Just wait and see if neither of the major parties can form a government alone and that's about a 90% chance of happening.

Especially when you have them all having policies the general population hates, like more immigration. more refugees and more money for vested interests. Whilst running down services to the people and increasing costs to the public, whilst increasing profit margins of corporations and their vested interests.
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby HBS Guy » 29 Mar 2019, 19:50

greggerypeccary wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:Likely to be held 19 May.


Typo there.

May 18

It's either the 18th or the 25th, but most money is on the 18th.

Can't come quick enough.

What's that, like 7 weeks away?


Something like that.

The Libs were crap under Howard who moved them to the right and to neoliberalism. All those cuts for the rich, paid for at the time out of boom, i.e. temporarily inflated, revenue. That boom is history but the tax cuts are still here, the Budget still in structural deficit.

Under abbott/turdfull/morriscum their unfitness to rule, their incompetence, lack of policy agenda, the lack of a sensible energy policy, the destruction of the NBN (for whatever reason) etc. Nah, tired, corrupt, incompetent. They need time in Opposition but whether they will use that time wisely who knows? Hopefully for them dutton will be booted out of his seat in the election: if not, leadership turmoil, further moves to the right etc.
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby pinkeye » 29 Mar 2019, 20:29

They have to die eventually. :roll
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby Bongalong » 30 Mar 2019, 12:14

Copper Internet killed the capital "L"iberal Party.

Go on... try and tell me I'm wrong because I know you can't but you all want to lololololololololol :bike :bike :bike :bike :bike :bike :bike :bike :bgrin
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby hatty » 01 Apr 2019, 11:47

Bongalong wrote:Copper Internet has fucked over the whole country for decades to come

Go on... try and tell me I'm wrong because I know you can't but you all want to lololololololololol :bike :bike :bike :bike :bike :bike :bike :bike :bgrin


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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby HBS Guy » 01 Apr 2019, 12:23

Very true!
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby Bongalong » 01 Apr 2019, 12:30

Good fix, but it does however further my anger.

This country was actually once known for it's brains and pride and now it's just buy a mcmansion and shove your kids in the bin whilst ya stuff ya face with salmon and boutique bread and beer with wifey .... where's the life gone?

I know, why don't the nasty old people vote em back in.... :hush
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby SethBullock » 01 Apr 2019, 12:32

Just asking for help getting me up to speed on Australian politics ...

How is the country divided politically? As you probably know, the U.S. is pretty evenly divided between R's and D's. Is Australia pretty evenly divided, or is one side consistently stronger than the other?

What are the major differences between the Liberal and Labor Parties?
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby HBS Guy » 01 Apr 2019, 12:46

The Liberals are in coalition with the Nationals aka the agrarian socialists. Libs are right wing, very neoliberal these days. The Nationals were founded as the voice of the man on the land but these days they are mainly supportive of miners, fracking etc.

The Labor Party was started by the unions, like the British Labour Party. Mildly left tho in the 80s & 90s they went in for “economic rationalism” and did move the Australian economy into the 20th century at last. Look up some speeches on YouTube of PM Paul Keating.

The Howard govt was elected in 1996, and moved the party way to the right and to neoliberalism. Nothing much left from the Party PM Sir Robert Menzies started.

The Greens were started as an environmental/progressive Party but have left that all behind, apart from lip service, they too are neoliberals in actual fact. One Nation is basically rightwing xenophobes and their Leader, Pauline Hanson is an outright idiot.
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby Bongalong » 01 Apr 2019, 12:59

SethBullock wrote:Just asking for help getting me up to speed on Australian politics ...

How is the country divided politically? As you probably know, the U.S. is pretty evenly divided between R's and D's. Is Australia pretty evenly divided, or is one side consistently stronger than the other?

What are the major differences between the Liberal and Labor Parties?

Pretty even.

Saying that, John Howard won 4 terms purely on the back of being in America when 9-11 happened.... then when he got turfed out the mining boom was on and they assasinated the prime-minister with their global assets! IT'S AVERY FAMOUS STORY: DON'T THINK YOU CAN COME TO AUSTRALIA AND MESS WITH THE VESTED INTERESTS HERE BUDDY - A LOT OF MONEY TO BE MADE IN THE LAND OF MILK AND HONEY :Hi

(THEY DON'T CALL US THE LAND OF OLIGARCHY FOR NOTHING :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :hush )
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby Bongalong » 01 Apr 2019, 13:02

Lol, Pauline Hanson always gets the raw prawn it would seem... it's all a charade to make the Libs look like saints!

Who wants to tell Seth that the Liberal Party of Australia is a misnomer?

...warning--> he may feel forced to never visit for fear that this country has more dangerous animals in it's politics, and therefore media, than in it's landscapes!
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby SethBullock » 01 Apr 2019, 13:04

Thanks, guys.
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby greggerypeccary » 01 Apr 2019, 13:07

SethBullock wrote:Just asking for help getting me up to speed on Australian politics ...

How is the country divided politically? As you probably know, the U.S. is pretty evenly divided between R's and D's. Is Australia pretty evenly divided, or is one side consistently stronger than the other?

What are the major differences between the Liberal and Labor Parties?


Evenly divided.

Labor is socially liberal.

The Liberal Party is socially conservative.
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby SethBullock » 01 Apr 2019, 13:09

Bongalong wrote:Lol, Pauline Hanson always gets the raw prawn it would seem... it's all a charade to make the Libs look like saints!

Who wants to tell Seth that the Liberal Party of Australia is a misnomer?

...warning--> he may feel forced to never visit for fear that this country has more dangerous animals in it's politics, and therefore media, than in it's landscapes!


Haha, not a chance. You've got crocs, snakes, spiders, white sharks, drop bears, and man-eating horses - all lurking about waiting for some unsuspecting tourist to venture off the sidewalk. :scare
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby SethBullock » 01 Apr 2019, 13:12

Do you guys believe strongly in one party or the other?

Or are you guys cynical about both?
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby mantra » 01 Apr 2019, 13:13

If only Labor had someone better than Shorten as their leader. It would be too hard putting up with another 3 years of Morrison. He appears efficient, but it is a delusion. He is way off course.

When you look at the whole picture - maybe Shorten couldn't be worse than Morrison. At least he's promised to abolish negative gearing. That's a start. It might help our children buy a home which was an Australian dream at one time.

Bongalong wrote:
This country was actually once known for it's brains and pride and now it's just buy a mcmansion and shove your kids in the bin whilst ya stuff ya face with salmon and boutique bread and beer with wifey .... where's the life gone?


I have to agree. They're all pigs at the trough now who are only in politics because of the benefits and the wealthy contacts who will make their future comfortable. None of them give a damn about preserving this beautiful country and providing a good future for our children. They've turned young workers into a bunch of robots who know they're going nowhere and only have instability to look forward to.
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby greggerypeccary » 01 Apr 2019, 13:14

SethBullock wrote:Do you guys believe strongly in one party or the other?

Or are you guys cynical about both?


Most people here would support Labor.

They're the only ones who can be trusted to look after the workers, and maintain a decent healthcare system.

We're still cynical about both, though.
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby greggerypeccary » 01 Apr 2019, 13:27

This has an element of truth to it.

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That's an ex-Prime Minister - possibly the worst PM this country has ever seen.
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby Lols » 01 Apr 2019, 13:32

SethBullock wrote:Do you guys believe strongly in one party or the other?

Or are you guys cynical about both?



I don't trust any of them, they have some good points, but all have their flaws, and stuff the country up in some way financially.

It seems, that Liberals pull the purse strings tightly, and try to get us out of debt, then Labour gets in and spends to the point we have bigger debts than ever.


We can't seem to stay stable in this country. The 2 big political parties seem to have a monopoly, it's either or, and I don't care for either.

The hubby recently said, he has decided, to vote for the party he hates the least!!
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby SethBullock » 01 Apr 2019, 13:33

That's interesting, Greg.

It is not terribly different from how rank and file Republicans felt about namby-pamby Washington Establishment Republicans who ran for president in 2016.
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby SethBullock » 01 Apr 2019, 13:36

Lols wrote:
SethBullock wrote:Do you guys believe strongly in one party or the other?

Or are you guys cynical about both?



I don't trust any of them, they have some good points, but all have their flaws, and stuff the country up in some way financially.

It seems, that Liberals pull the purse strings tightly, and try to get us out of debt, then Labour gets in and spends to the point we have bigger debts than ever.


We can't seem to stay stable in this country. The 2 big political parties seem to have a monopoly, it's either or, and I don't care for either.

The hubby recently said, he has decided, to vote for the party he hates the least!!


Hi Lols :Hi

Haven't seen you here in a while.

You remind me of a lot of voters in the U.S. They don't like the Democrats all that much, nor do they like the Republicans all that much.
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Re: Federal Election 2019

Postby SethBullock » 01 Apr 2019, 13:37

Often times Americans vote for who they think is the lesser of two evils.
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