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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby Bongalong » 02 Apr 2019, 16:10

DonDeeHippy wrote:https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-top-selling-car-netherlands/

Tesla Model 3 shines in the Netherlands
According to official stats, in March, the Tesla Model 3 was the best-selling car of any kind in the Netherlands with 2,195 new registrations (5.6% of all sales).
We failed to spot a single model that would be above 1,000 registrations, and we believe that the second-best plug-in model is below 500 (full sales report from the Netherlands is expected later this month). :purple

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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby Bongalong » 02 Apr 2019, 16:12

HBS Guy wrote:Could run an electric overhead wire along our main roads—other countries roll out more elaborate infrastructure for trains and trucks can get their power from that—look up “trolley buses.”

Would need a really really dense energy source—and that presents dangers too. Maybe hydrogen produced using RE/nuke power?

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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby HBS Guy » 02 Apr 2019, 16:13

Bongalong wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:Solar panels have a long way to go in terms of efficiency too, offering more cost savings to running a car.

Do they? Why aren't they in the-once-was-a-clever-country's sights? :yak yak :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll


Scientists have developed a paint on glass that sends light off to the sides of the panel where the solar cells are, protected from the direct heat of the sun. But a long way from concept to commercial production.
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby HBS Guy » 02 Apr 2019, 16:15

If trucks are to be electric/non-polluting they either get their power supplied on-the-go or they need to carry a replacement for diesel. Hydrogen could be one such but has some obvious problems.
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby Bongalong » 02 Apr 2019, 16:20

HBS Guy wrote:
Bongalong wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:Solar panels have a long way to go in terms of efficiency too, offering more cost savings to running a car.

Do they? Why aren't they in the-once-was-a-clever-country's sights? :yak yak :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll :roll


Scientists have developed a paint on glass that sends light off to the sides of the panel where the solar cells are, protected from the direct heat of the sun. But a long way from concept to commercial production.

Apparently heat is one of those big factors keeping solar from breaking through!
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby Bongalong » 02 Apr 2019, 16:22

HBS Guy wrote:If trucks are to be electric/non-polluting they either get their power supplied on-the-go or they need to carry a replacement for diesel. Hydrogen could be one such but has some obvious problems.

The fact is fossil fuels will never disappear- atleast not this century... it will have to be a cogeneration solution.
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby HBS Guy » 02 Apr 2019, 18:14

As long as things move in the right direction—and a carboin price will help do that.
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby DonDeeHippy » 02 Apr 2019, 19:09

HBS Guy wrote:If trucks are to be electric/non-polluting they either get their power supplied on-the-go or they need to carry a replacement for diesel. Hydrogen could be one such but has some obvious problems.

the tesla semi can do 800km's on a load and will come with fast recharging, considering truck laws in Australia, that a driver cant do more than 14 hours in a day and has to have 4 breaks of a total of 2 hours, the Tesla truck if charged during compulsory breaks would never run out of juice.....no need for a diesel replacement... :purple
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby HBS Guy » 02 Apr 2019, 19:16

And batteries will get better now EVs are taking off, more and more Big Batteries are being built (to stabilise the grid) so mileage will increase and recharge times will decrease.
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby Bongalong » 03 Apr 2019, 18:43

HBS Guy wrote:As long as things move in the right direction—and a carboin price will help do that.

Industry has known that forever!

The rest is just shenanigans.
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby Bongalong » 03 Apr 2019, 18:47

DonDeeHippy wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:If trucks are to be electric/non-polluting they either get their power supplied on-the-go or they need to carry a replacement for diesel. Hydrogen could be one such but has some obvious problems.

the tesla semi can do 800km's on a load and will come with fast recharging, considering truck laws in Australia, that a driver cant do more than 14 hours in a day and has to have 4 breaks of a total of 2 hours, the Tesla truck if charged during compulsory breaks would never run out of juice.....no need for a diesel replacement... :purple

Hey, now that sounds like the kind of music the world needs to hear!

How come this isn't common knowledge I wonder?


It would seem the bottneck is a serious lack of fast-recharging infrastructure ...
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby DonDeeHippy » 03 Apr 2019, 18:56

Bongalong wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:If trucks are to be electric/non-polluting they either get their power supplied on-the-go or they need to carry a replacement for diesel. Hydrogen could be one such but has some obvious problems.

the tesla semi can do 800km's on a load and will come with fast recharging, considering truck laws in Australia, that a driver cant do more than 14 hours in a day and has to have 4 breaks of a total of 2 hours, the Tesla truck if charged during compulsory breaks would never run out of juice.....no need for a diesel replacement... :purple

Hey, now that sounds like the kind of music the world needs to hear!

How come this isn't common knowledge I wonder?


It would seem the bottneck is a serious lack of fast-recharging infrastructure ...

It’s a chicken or the egg thing. The best thing about installing chargers is that anywhere there is power , there can be a fast charger installed. :purple
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby Bongalong » 03 Apr 2019, 19:00

HBS Guy wrote:And batteries will get better now EVs are taking off, more and more Big Batteries are being built (to stabilise the grid) so mileage will increase and recharge times will decrease.


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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby Bongalong » 03 Apr 2019, 19:01

DonDeeHippy wrote:
Bongalong wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:If trucks are to be electric/non-polluting they either get their power supplied on-the-go or they need to carry a replacement for diesel. Hydrogen could be one such but has some obvious problems.

the tesla semi can do 800km's on a load and will come with fast recharging, considering truck laws in Australia, that a driver cant do more than 14 hours in a day and has to have 4 breaks of a total of 2 hours, the Tesla truck if charged during compulsory breaks would never run out of juice.....no need for a diesel replacement... :purple

Hey, now that sounds like the kind of music the world needs to hear!

How come this isn't common knowledge I wonder?


It would seem the bottneck is a serious lack of fast-recharging infrastructure ...

It’s a chicken or the egg thing. The best thing about installing chargers is that anywhere there is power , there can be a fast charger installed. :purple

Was there anything in the budget announcement about electric chargers?
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby HBS Guy » 03 Apr 2019, 19:09

Dunno—but doubt it very much!
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby johnsmith » 03 Apr 2019, 19:38

Bongalong wrote:Was there anything in the budget announcement about electric chargers?


no
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby Bongalong » 03 Apr 2019, 19:41

johnsmith wrote:
Bongalong wrote:Was there anything in the budget announcement about electric chargers?


no

Well, then the libs are f****** then :bgrin
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby DonDeeHippy » 07 Apr 2019, 08:18

https://cleantechnica.com/2019/04/06/ho ... seaplanes/

When the world’s largest floatplane-only airline, Harbour Air, says it is switching to become an electrically powered airline, you know something is going on with the state of aviation battery technology. It starts to make sense to some, at least enough to look into it. And when aviation makes financial sense of electric mobility, it also means the tipping point is near or already reached.
Harbour Air will be the first seafaring airline to convert its complete fleet of de Havilland Beaver, Otter, Twin Otter aircraft and lone Cessna Caravan to electricity. These 41 vintage aircraft will be converted to reach a longer lifecycle with highly improved efficiency and lowered maintenance costs, a win-win for all.
Currently, the airline flies 500,000 passengers annually, with daily scheduled service flights between Seattle, Vancouver, and various other cities on the coast of British Columbia, as well as Vancouver Island.
According to the Vancouver Sun, founder and CEO Greg McDougall said: “If you think about it, it’s the evolution of transportation toward electric propulsion. The internal combustion engine is all but obsolete, really, for future development. It’s all about electric.”
In order to do that, Harbour Air will have to work closely with magneticX, the company that developed the 750 hp electric motor and battery pack that will give the aircraft enough electricity and power for about an hour of flight.
All of Harbour Air’s flights are 30 minutes or less, making electric air mobility ideal. By retrofitting new technology to an older existing platform, the airline continues to expand its product lifecycle. In terms of economy, the cost is the same as upgrading to a turbine engine. The benefit is that electric motors don’t need to be rebuilt every 2,500 to 3,000 hours. Maintenance is much lower.
In the end, we can always tell when a switch is in the air, and no matter how much kickback, once a company makes financial sense of electric mobility, there is no turning back. Harbour Air is certainly a bookcase scenario showing that the electric aviation business case has been reached.

As battery tech gets better and better there will be more applications where getting rid of fossil fuels will become more viable. :purple
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby johnsmith » 07 Apr 2019, 09:38

cool

It's good to see progress being made with electric powered transport
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby HBS Guy » 07 Apr 2019, 13:27

Yup!
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby DonDeeHippy » 08 Apr 2019, 04:45

yeah there are a few small/ultra light planes being built too that should be good enough for flying schools as well..
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby HBS Guy » 08 Apr 2019, 06:36

Aviation is kind of a frontier for electric propulsion.

Has different needs than road transport, of course—weight.
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby Dax » 08 Apr 2019, 11:50

Weight is a big factor in road electric vehicles, the power to weight ratio comes into affect much more than aircraft as friction is greater in road based vehicles. The advancement in lift capabilities in air craft is making it easier to develop electric aircraft, as lift is the major detriment to electric planes.

Electric driven ships are the thing today, they use electric pod motors for propulsion and oil driven generators to provide power for the pods, which act as rudders being able to swivel 360deg. No need to reverse the engines or have gear boxes, There are also full electric ferries In Europe and a couple of electric ships running on batteries, wind and solar. When you add the new parasails to these, full electric shipping becomes a really viable future round the planet.
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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby Bongalong » 08 Apr 2019, 13:21

HBS Guy wrote:Aviation is kind of a frontier for electric propulsion.

Has different needs than road transport, of course—weight.
Of course, but the variation of flight load is a worthy contender with which to sharpen that particularly so called 'iron' i well suspect!

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Re: Electric Vehicals this week

Postby Bongalong » 08 Apr 2019, 13:24

Dax wrote:Weight is a big factor in road electric vehicles, the power to weight ratio comes into affect much more than aircraft as friction is greater in road based vehicles. The advancement in lift capabilities in air craft is making it easier to develop electric aircraft, as lift is the major detriment to electric planes.

Electric driven ships are the thing today, they use electric pod motors for propulsion and oil driven generators to provide power for the pods, which act as rudders being able to swivel 360deg. No need to reverse the engines or have gear boxes, There are also full electric ferries In Europe and a couple of electric ships running on batteries, wind and solar. When you add the new parasails to these, full electric shipping becomes a really viable future round the planet.

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