A engine that runs on ethonol

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A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Francis » 02 Nov 2017, 10:54

Hello, Before I go any further I am involved financially and emotional in this project. I am neither soliciting for donors or shareholders.
I would like to share the concept for interests sake and feedback.

That ok mod?
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby HBS Guy » 02 Nov 2017, 13:21

Hell yeah!
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Francis » 02 Nov 2017, 23:03

Awesome!
I'm do this in a series of posts, usually while feeding daughter.. Lol.

Let's work backwards so you understand where we are atm before I get into the technical side.
We are a registered company. We have secured patent's in several dozen countries ( costing big $$).
Our prototype has been refined and proven ( refined is a nice way of saying rebuilt after explosion, self destruction and we had one fire).
We have secured government support via a grant up to one million.
We are now having blue prints designed by engineer in a relationship with qld uni.
From there we will build three units.
1 a home unit. The size of a fridge. Capacity to power a household.
2 a factory unit. The size of a small truck. Designed to power a small factory.
3 big daddy. Size of a house. Designed to power a very small town ( our ultimate goal!)

Run on ethanol... A renewable resource we source from suger cane.

The pollution from our motors consists of steam , heat and noise.

I'll post tech stuff next.
Its exciting , yes?
Imagine a diesel generator that runs on suger cane and its main pollution is steam and heat and noise!
Good for the environment?
We hope so!
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Francis » 03 Nov 2017, 03:36

Let's resolve the first thing ppl ask commonly about the motor before I attempt describe it.

Perpetual motors cannot exist.

On earth anyway, space maybe.
In no way is our design a perpetual motor . We make no claim that it is. We believe its Extremely efficient and environmentally friendly , that is our claim.

Ethanol ( or absolute alcohol) is heated to create combustion . Same as you start a car. We even use a car battery.The ethanol is now switched off, its only required in the start up process.
The combustion heats water into steam. The steam
Than is used to produce electronic currant for external use. Excess steam is retained and used to generate internal power that is used to create more steam and process repeats.

That's a very basic description but I hope the concept is clear?

A external fuel source starts the combustion creating steam that than both powers the external source as well as creating the internal combustion again, and again and again.
The motor can remain operational until we either run out of water or parts wear out.
Once started it needs no further external fuel source!

I guess next I'd like explain our motivation , our market and try and answer any questions?
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby HBS Guy » 03 Nov 2017, 21:17

I am still thinking about this.
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Francis » 04 Nov 2017, 20:25

Motivation?

We want to be rich!

We want to provide cheap reliable electricity.

We want it from renewable environmental friendly sources.

We want to be independent and non reliant on other countries for fuel.

Mostly we just want to get rich!
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby HBS Guy » 04 Nov 2017, 21:32

Rich is good.
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Francis » 05 Nov 2017, 10:03

Well I'm honest lol.

Our market is interesting as it changed from what we initially thought
We were looking at mines and military who require remote power. Particularly underground mines as we produce no pollution.
Remote settlements and farms.
Since then our biggest interest has come from o.s and factory owners .Brazil in particular.
We also have interest from boat builders.
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby HBS Guy » 05 Nov 2017, 11:25

Must admit I don’t get how the engine works.

Not trying to get trade secrets. . . .
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Francis » 05 Nov 2017, 11:48

Ethanol is used to heat water that creates steam. Some of the steam is used to produce external power while some of the steam is used internally to produce more steam. The process than continually repeats.
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Redneck » 05 Nov 2017, 12:31

Francis wrote:Let's resolve the first thing ppl ask commonly about the motor before I attempt describe it.

Perpetual motors cannot exist.

On earth anyway, space maybe.
In no way is our design a perpetual motor . We make no claim that it is. We believe its Extremely efficient and environmentally friendly , that is our claim.

Ethanol ( or absolute alcohol) is heated to create combustion . Same as you start a car. We even use a car battery.The ethanol is now switched off, its only required in the start up process.
The combustion heats water into steam. The steam
Than is used to produce electronic currant for external use. Excess steam is retained and used to generate internal power that is used to create more steam and process repeats.

That's a very basic description but I hope the concept is clear?

A external fuel source starts the combustion creating steam that than both powers the external source as well as creating the internal combustion again, and again and again.
The motor can remain operational until we either run out of water or parts wear out.
Once started it needs no further external fuel source!

I guess next I'd like explain our motivation , our market and try and answer any questions?


Might need a more detailed explanation, that is not very clear to me.

If the ethanol is turned off at startup, what is combusted on subsequent cycles that is steam powered?

Are spark plugs used to ignite the ethanol or is it compression as in a diesel engine?
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Francis » 05 Nov 2017, 16:59

How can i post pictures?

If you see the plans it will be so easily explained.
Everything is under patant so its no drama to share
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby HBS Guy » 05 Nov 2017, 17:47

So the steam causes compression that ignites the ethanol again?
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Francis » 05 Nov 2017, 20:44

We use the steam to create energies that create compression .
Its all about what we can give out and what we needto keep so it still runs
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Francis » 05 Nov 2017, 20:45

Pictures will be worth a million words
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby HBS Guy » 05 Nov 2017, 21:03

So—a diesel engine that runs on ethanol? Trying to understand.
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Francis » 06 Nov 2017, 19:34

Its a steam engine that starts on ethanol than maintain enough power output to generate more steam
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby HBS Guy » 06 Nov 2017, 19:53

Sorry, to me that does sound like a perpetual motion machine. I am dense I know.
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Francis » 07 Nov 2017, 18:19

Its impossible. Trust me. ..I've tried.

We run out of water ( but we do catch as much steam as we can and condensed it back to h2o.)

We give out heat and noise.
It can't run forever. Wish it could!
The game is all about how much power we can produce. How much power we can give out externally and how much power we need to keep to re power the motor.

Seriously need post up the plans to help you understand.
Perpetual motors are impossible under a atmosphere and unprecedented in space anyway
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby HBS Guy » 07 Nov 2017, 18:33

Yes, I know perpetual motion machines are impossible, class one that just runs, class two that generates excess energy. Even space is not a hard vacuum, so no perpetual motion even there.

So your machine does what/works how exactly?
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Redneck » 07 Nov 2017, 18:35

Sorry but your explanations are not worth a knob of goat shit!

We need a proper scientific explanation!

A link to the scientific site with explanation at least!
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby HBS Guy » 07 Nov 2017, 18:39

ooohh, petticoat decides to try and imitate a real male!
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Francis » 07 Nov 2017, 19:37

Redneck wrote:Sorry but your explanations are not worth a knob of goat shit!

We need a proper scientific explanation!

A link to the scientific site with explanation at least!


Fair comments. I'll try and post the blue print plan.

Its very hard to explain tech stuff but if you can read a plan too easier.
I ll have to join image shack or something and post the file from there?

Yeah????
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Re: A engine that runs on ethonol

Postby Redneck » 08 Nov 2017, 16:05

HBS Guy wrote:ooohh, petticoat decides to try and imitate a real male!


And here comes the sook of the internet!

Well you wouldnt know a real male if you fell over one (or on top of one)!

Have you thrown a tanti today or still going on the one about being banned despite all your claims about not wanting to go back to OP
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