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New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 30 Sep 2017, 20:10

As spread by David Dubyne and others:

1. A Grand Solar Minimum (aka Maunder Minimum) will cause an ice age

Complete crap. The previous MM did NOT cause an ice age—the Little Ice Age was going before the MM happened and was still going when the MM ended. The MM slightly lowered temperatures is all.

Now with 410ppm, 46% more than in the 1800s, CO2 in the atmosphere a MM would not depress temperatures much at all.


2. A GSM causes vulcanism. See this quote by Dubyne:
Volcanic Eruptions to Cool Earth, Record Arctic Sea Ice Growth Happening (463)


Complete crap. The previous LIA was thought to have been caused partly by vulcanism FIFTY YEARS of high levels of vulcanism. To cover this the snake oil salesman conning people about an ice age now say that the LIA or the GSM or pixies cause vulcanism. See? They keep volcanoes in the picture but they are now a consequence not a cause of an ice age. Pure snake oil.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 30 Sep 2017, 20:19

Obviously, with the main myth busted—by reference to a real GSM/LIA—references to a coming ice age are seen as wrong. The promoters of this myth must have a reason for it. I am very cynical about that rea$on.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 01 Oct 2017, 21:57

Read about how 50 years of heavy volcanic activity started the cooling process (600 years before the Grand Solar Minimum!!!)
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120130131509.htm

Scientists suggest that the Little Ice Age was triggered by an unusual, 50-year episode of four massive volcanic eruptions. This led to an expansion of sea ice and a related weakening of Atlantic currents that caused the cool period to persist for centuries.


So, volcanoes first (LOTS of volcanic activity) for 50 years cooling the earth and disrupting the ocean currents. That probably caused the ice age. NOT the ice age causing the vulcanicity?

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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 01 Oct 2017, 23:24

I have tweeted links to these posts, warn people against getting sucked in and fleeced.

I will keep adding to and tweeting the information to warn people off this scam.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 01 Oct 2017, 23:55

:OMG the stupidity of some of the Adapt 2030 followers!

One lunatic reckons because the world is electrical the magma is charged and the volcano pulls the magma up. Adapt 2030 agrees—got to keep the suckers happy!

Far out! Magma, deep earthquakes are way down in the mantle! Nothing to do with sunspots FFS!

Another lunatic reckons peoples eyes glaze over when he tells them the sun causes earthquakes. My eyes wouldn’t glaze over at this lunacy but would go :roll :roll :roll

Man, these people are stupid! And someone is benefitting from their idiocy!
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 03 Oct 2017, 06:20

A solar flare causing auroral displays means ice age or something.

Unbelievable the dribble some will lap up as gospel.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 06 Oct 2017, 22:17

Had another shufti at the fake ice age channel. . .hmmm why is he pushing Bitcoin so hard? Must be because he can make money from the numpties that follow him with it. A few asked awkward questions about what if the internet goes down, how do you access your bitcoins? Good question (given the idiotic assumptions Dubyne has foisted on the numpties.)

Still saying a GSM will cause an ice age: the last GSM, the Maunder Minimum did not cause the LIA. Why can’t the numpties see this flaw in the snake oil Dubyne peddles?
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 11 Oct 2017, 08:17

Dubyne still continuing with the three themes:

1. Grain shortages—despite record harvests, even the Kansas winter wheat losses due to a blizzard in late spring were trivial (and that wheat was at a much more advanced stage of growth due to the warm winter and spring in the US that Dubyne never mentions :roll :bgrin At least in my neck of the woods the grain is standing tall and strong and some has been harvested with bales of hay in the fields. Never, ever believe those with an agenda!

2. Bitcoin is the solution (what was the question?) Yup, must be selling Bitcoin to his idiot followers like Booby.

3. The govt is hiding the TROOT! We know the TROOT is out there! Pure snake oil, first thing to do is get the suckers to distrust the official record. We know Dubyne has form lying about thick Arctic ice but we also know that a cruise ship sailed the North West Passage that Dubyne lied and said would be blocked by thick ice—he sneakily withdrew that video from his playlist, can’t let his deluded followers see he is a bum prophet :jump We also know that Arctic Mission, two yachts no icebreaker support sailed to 80°N and found a million square kilometres of Arctic Ocean ice free last NH summer. Dubyne is full of shit.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 27 Oct 2017, 07:27

The idiot Booby’s hero, snake oil salesman Dubyne, has a new video:

Moldy seeds, moldy grapes, European vineyards wiped out.

Can probably ignore the last bit.

If we had an ice age like the idiot cretin Booby thinks there would be more water locked up as ice, lower temperatures so lower evaporation. But we have the opposite, AGW with warmer air and warmer seas causing MORE evaporation and the warmer air can hold 8% more moisture than it could in 1850. So molds, and other problems, diseases, algal blooms and mosquito borne diseases are becoming more common.

Had a quick look at comments:

it is the chemtrails, mainly at night, make them stop.

(in USA) getting moldy oranges, pineapples.
(Well, d’uh idiot, Florida got hit with several hurricanes bringing rain, floods etc. Why can’t these morons think?) It is probably the hurricanes that Dubyne was counting on getting his cretinous and deluded followers to supply examples of moldy fruit and the idiots stampeded to give examples.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Nov 2017, 17:42

Oh yeah, bad harvests due to a non–existent ice age.

Driving through the Adelaide Hills to North and to the South what do I see? Harvest in, bales of hay in the fields, vines (in the wine making bits) look good and healthy. Who believes crap about a fucking ice age when the poles are undergoing huge fucking warming, an East Antarctica glacier is sliding into the sea as are two large glaciers, Pine Island and Thwaites in West Antarctica? On Greenland two large glaciers are retreating rapidly, Petermann and Jacobshavn. There is a third large glacier could join these two.

Squire posted just how hot non–El Nino 2017 is, was second hottest up until September, will be second or third hottest year on record.

But parts—only parts FFS—of Canada and the northern USA have got some snow—ooohhh! Ice Age screams Dubyne and his dipshit followers like Booby all agree. Really, really dumb bastards! Probably just something to do with the Jetstream, Arctic air able to escape southwards. The warmer the air and seas get the more evaporation followed by more precipitation as rain, hail or snow there is.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Nov 2017, 17:44

The dumb cunts and brain damaged cretins—some make Light look rational I tells ya—cannot distinguish between more precipitation as snow and lower temperatures.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 12 Nov 2017, 08:42

What Dubyne is really illustrating, besides that he cannot be trusted, is that precipitation is higher than even 20 years ago. This is caused by a warmer world, warmer air and warmer seas causing more evaporation and the warmer air able to hold about 7–8% more moisture.

What allows him to keep fooling the simple minded like Booby? The Jetstream is weaker because temperatures are equalising on either side of it: Polar areas are warming 2-3 times faster than the rest of the globe because of the albedo effect: white snow/ice that reflects most light hitting it being more and more replaced by dark rock and ocean that absorbs most of the light and thereby warming. This affects mid–latitude weather. This means Arctic (and Antarctic weather through a different mechanism) air can escape south. If blocked by a large stable cyclone this air brings blizzards and snow to the areas under it.

Only the most feeble minded, like Booby, can’t figure out cause and effect and believe a snake oil seller who, it is clear, knows nothing about climate and just reports cold weather.

Dubyne makes big play about summer snow. Yet that does happen occasionally in Australia and New Zealand. He made one video based on cold weather in Brazil but this is a natural phenomenon not an ice age thing:

A blast of Antarctic air, a friagen. Happened this SH winter too. Is global warming weakening the circum Antarctic winds?


That is what I quoted in Booby’s idiotic Ice Age thread. Read more, Rio covered in snow, yet was only a record 10 years:

http://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-politics/record-breaking-cold-hits-rio-de-janeiro-and-sao-paulo/

Booby is only a Messenger, he says time after time, a convenient way of not needing to understand or defend the Dubyne bullshit. Bah!
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 24 Nov 2017, 05:38

The Approaching Famine and Bitcoin Futures Creating New Wealth (487)
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That was in my inbox this morning. See how Dubyne (Adapt 2030) is pushing Bit¢oin?
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 25 Nov 2017, 09:10

HBS Guy wrote:Dubyne still continuing with the three themes:

1. Grain shortages—despite record harvests, even the Kansas winter wheat losses due to a blizzard in late spring were trivial (and that wheat was at a much more advanced stage of growth due to the warm winter and spring in the US that Dubyne never mentions :roll :bgrin At least in my neck of the woods the grain is standing tall and strong and some has been harvested with bales of hay in the fields. Never, ever believe those with an agenda!

Latest compilation of rubbish talking of wheat prices rising—despite bumper crops? Bullshit! igrain shows the opposite. Never trust a snake oil salesman!

2. Bitcoin is the solution (what was the question?) Yup, must be selling Bitcoin to his idiot followers like Booby.

Yup, still heavily pushing Bitcoin. Another confidence trick!


Oh man, funny reading the comments to the latest compilation of crap and lies: several whinging about mold on houses, patios and cars. Thanks for proving AGW guys! If we were in an ice age with lower temperatures there would be less moisture in the air but the opposite is true, MORE moisture in the air! How can these idiots function without an active brain?
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 25 Nov 2017, 09:56

Ol’ Dave the shark oil salesman is a believer in cycles—but gets his history muddled up.

According to a chronology in one of his lying videos up to 1800 was a warming cycle then cold hit. Pardon?

We had the Little Ice Age from 1300–late 1800. Towards the end of that time there was the Maunder Minimum that cooled things a bit more.

Cycles don’t exist by themselves: something causes the phenomenon we see.

In the case of the “daily cycle” Dave quoted, the tides, it is caused by gravitational “pulls” by the sun and the moon. And it isn’t a daily cycle, it is less than 24 hours and then there are neap and spring tides, etc.

The solar activity cycle causes more or less TSI and longer term we have minima and stronger minima like the Maunder Minimum. These are caused by the nuclear cycle in the sun and we get to know more about it all the time—anything like full understanding is a loooong way off tho.

But cycles in the physical world do not just happen.

And the Maunder Minimum did NOT cause the Little Ice Age, it deepened it for some time but the LIA existed before and after the MM.

Now, with over 400ppm of CO2 (plus methane, nitrous oxide etc) in the atmosphere if we WERE (no evidence I have seen anywhere) to get another grand solar minimum we would see hardly any cooling.

So ol’ Dave the snake oil man keep busy feeding his dupes regular doses of bullshit:

1. Vulcanism, earthquakes are CAUSED by the GSM, not heavy volcanic activity for 50 years helped cool the earth. Gotta explain volcanoes!

2. The MM caused the last LIA and will cause the next one. LIA was going for a long time before the MM and lasted some decades after the MM ended. This is the central con. Booby should know it is a con because he insisted I watch this YT on the history of the last LIA.

3. Wheat harvests failing. He talks about this a lot all through times of bumper wheat harvests in Russia, Australia etc. This would be funny but why does he do it? To shore up his GSM/Ice Age rubbish? Or to keep his suckers anxious? Maybe that because lately it is all about Bitcoin.

Of course, he is a cheap enough huckster to claim the damage to fruit harvests (Florida oranges, Georgia (USA) failed peach harvest (due to the WARM US fall & winter) etc etc.

Funnily enough, most of his bullshit hints at a warming, increasingly moist world (except parts that are drying out, like the southern half of Australia, the US northwest etc) not an ice age :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby MilesAway » 27 Nov 2017, 12:25

These idiots believe in stirring the pot because they have the luxury of being born in a first world country and think its tactical and strategical to play such games: it's just schadenfreude from the rich and bored!

These people don't have friends,... Oh, except for drug addicts that live in Julie bishops electorate!!!

Love their sea food these people... that's all they've got: drugs and seafood!

Seriously,... that's it!
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 27 Nov 2017, 13:37

No, I think AGW denialism is due to fear of change.

Stuff like not having your children vaccinated is playing games in the safety of a first world. But not as safe as the idiots think: measles epidemics are back, how long before we have another polio epidemic? I remember the kids at my primary school with their legs in calipers. Hell, even measles can blind and even kill children.

The main—you can see it if you can bear to read Light’s dribble—reason given for vaccinations being so harmful is that a child might show autism after being vaccinated—but this is the age autism reveals itself. Correlation does not imply causation. They also crap on about the preservative agent in vaccines, thimerosal which has a minute amount of mercury in it. They carry on about it as if pounds of mercury are in every vaccine shot. In any case, thimerosal has been phased out.

They also talk of deaths from early polio vaccines, dunno how true they are. Whatever mistakes were made the vaccines are safe now.

Why risk your children? Take up bungy jumping if you want to engage in pretend danger!
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 27 Nov 2017, 21:49

A volcano has erupted meaning delays of flights to Bali.

HM idiots will say “GSM!” or “Ice Age!” when it is nothing of the kind.

Immediately before the last LIA there were FIFTY years of HEAVY vulcanism, not the odd eruption like we have had. Won’t stop the idiots like Booby tho.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 29 Nov 2017, 12:25

Ahahahaha I knew it! In his latest video Dubyne talked about the Bali volcano and one in Mexico and one in Iceland CAUSED by the non–existent grand solar minimum!

Bali and Mexico are part of the Pacific Ring of Fire and Iceland is actually seafloor pushed above sealevel so the magma is not very deep below the ground. None of these volcanoes are remarkable.

Doesn’t really make for fifty years of high levels of volcanic activity, does it? So there is absolutely ZERO evidence of a new little ice age anytime soon.

Again, a lot of the comments showed that there is more PRECIPITATION which is a sign of AGW.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 08 Dec 2017, 10:44

Ex Hurricane Ophelia, the most eastern Hurricane about ever brought huge amounts of rain to northern British Isles. Consequently the Irish potato fields were unworkable early–middle November. You guessed it, snake oil salesman Dubyne claimed it as a result of his mythical ice age.

He isn’t pushing Bitcoin anymore, now that that is about to collapse.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Dec 2017, 08:35

Booby slings off at me in yet another post. What a gutless coward!

Here: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1464603949/4155#4155

Quote Piere Corbyn, astrophysicist. Have a look at his story on wiki. His success in predicting weather? Not that good.

Saying CO2 does not and never has affected temperature is stupid. We know that as GHGs increase in the atmosphere less thermal IR can escape to space. This has been observed. The chemistry of AGW has been known since the mid 1800s and was pretty much formalised by Arrhenius in 1906. Nothing has happened to change that.

The sun is quiescent since the mid 1980s yet still temperatures have increased. When the sun becomes more active temperatures will jump.

There is no evidence for an ice age.

Booby needs to apologise for being a coward and slinging off at me when I cannot reply. What a cunt! He can also apologise for lying about his experience here. That he believes a charlatan who has put together 500 videos on the mythical ice age yet presented no evidence for it is up to him. I would think he is too old to believe in fairy tales but there you go.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Dec 2017, 08:42

According to that greasy slimy grub Booby it got colder in April. Care to point out the drop in temps, Boobhead?

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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Dec 2017, 08:49

East Antarctica is stirring!

“Up till now, we basically had a stationary [East Antarctic] ice sheet, and now it’s started to move,” — Catherine Walker, NASA post-doctoral fellow.

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East Antarctica. Home to most of the world’s remaining land ice. Scientists previously thought that this last bastion of somewhat stable ice in the world would only slowly succumb to the slings and arrows of human-caused climate change. That its ice giants would still sleep for some time — giving the world more time to stave off or avoid worsening rates of sea level rise. Unfortunately, new evidence reveals that this is not the case. That the best time to act on sea level rise was 20+ years ago, and that the second best time to act, in cutting fossil fuel based CO2 emissions, is now.

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(Warm water upwelling near East Antarctica’s Totten Glacier threatens to accelerate global sea level rise. Image source: Texas Institute for Geophysics.)


Unfortunately, I think we will see a lot of Antarctica/Greenland icemelt and huge floods on the US east coast before anything is done to reduce GHG emissions. Fossil fuel interests will ensure it will be so.

Extreme warming now periodically besets this frozen land. Massive ice bergs are breaking off from West Antarctica, rainfall is now observed, at times, all around the frozen continent’s perimeter from west to east, and the vast Pine Island glacier is being undermined by warm water currents — causing it to crack up from the inside out.

Now, according to new research, one of East Antarctica’s largest glaciers — the Totten — is accelerating toward the Southern Ocean. It’s a situation that we warned about in an earlier post as an indicator of worsening risks of speeding sea level rise due to human caused climate change. Unfortunately, new studies by scientists have now confirmed that warm waters encroaching on Totten have already had an impact.

Researchers found that combined warm winds and encroaching warmer ocean currents had caused the glacier to speed up by 5 percent during the period of 2000 to 2006. This acceleration means that the vast glacier — home to enough ice to raise seas by 11-13 feet — is melting faster. It also means that the glacier is starting to succumb to the tremendous global heat forcing provided by human fossil fuel burning around the world. We should caution that this report covers a period from more than a decade ago. And since that time, human-forced global warming has considerably advanced.


https://robertscribbler.com/2017/11/06/sleeping-ice-giants-stir-east-antarcticas-totten-glacier-accelerates-toward-southern-ocean/

Have a read of the article. Very sobering.

So Boobhead you dumbarse, why is even East Antarctica melting when we are supposedly in an Ice Age? Can you explain that? Of course, you won’t even try!
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Dec 2017, 09:22

Also please explain this Boobhead:

http://www.noaa.gov/news/us-had-3rd-warmest-year-to-date-7th-warmest-november-on-record

3rd warmest year? Really? And Boobhead thinks we are in an ice age? What a fuckwit Boobhead really is!
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Dec 2017, 09:27

Can you point out any cooling here, Boobhead?

https://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/
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