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New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 30 Sep 2017, 20:10

As spread by David Dubyne and others:

1. A Grand Solar Minimum (aka Maunder Minimum) will cause an ice age

Complete crap. The previous MM did NOT cause an ice age—the Little Ice Age was going before the MM happened and was still going when the MM ended. The MM slightly lowered temperatures is all.

Now with 410ppm, 46% more than in the 1800s, CO2 in the atmosphere a MM would not depress temperatures much at all.


2. A GSM causes vulcanism. See this quote by Dubyne:
Volcanic Eruptions to Cool Earth, Record Arctic Sea Ice Growth Happening (463)


Complete crap. The previous LIA was thought to have been caused partly by vulcanism FIFTY YEARS of high levels of vulcanism. To cover this the snake oil salesman conning people about an ice age now say that the LIA or the GSM or pixies cause vulcanism. See? They keep volcanoes in the picture but they are now a consequence not a cause of an ice age. Pure snake oil.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 30 Sep 2017, 20:19

Obviously, with the main myth busted—by reference to a real GSM/LIA—references to a coming ice age are seen as wrong. The promoters of this myth must have a reason for it. I am very cynical about that rea$on.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 01 Oct 2017, 21:57

Read about how 50 years of heavy volcanic activity started the cooling process (600 years before the Grand Solar Minimum!!!)
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/01/120130131509.htm

Scientists suggest that the Little Ice Age was triggered by an unusual, 50-year episode of four massive volcanic eruptions. This led to an expansion of sea ice and a related weakening of Atlantic currents that caused the cool period to persist for centuries.


So, volcanoes first (LOTS of volcanic activity) for 50 years cooling the earth and disrupting the ocean currents. That probably caused the ice age. NOT the ice age causing the vulcanicity?

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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 01 Oct 2017, 23:24

I have tweeted links to these posts, warn people against getting sucked in and fleeced.

I will keep adding to and tweeting the information to warn people off this scam.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 01 Oct 2017, 23:55

:OMG the stupidity of some of the Adapt 2030 followers!

One lunatic reckons because the world is electrical the magma is charged and the volcano pulls the magma up. Adapt 2030 agrees—got to keep the suckers happy!

Far out! Magma, deep earthquakes are way down in the mantle! Nothing to do with sunspots FFS!

Another lunatic reckons peoples eyes glaze over when he tells them the sun causes earthquakes. My eyes wouldn’t glaze over at this lunacy but would go :roll :roll :roll

Man, these people are stupid! And someone is benefitting from their idiocy!
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 03 Oct 2017, 06:20

A solar flare causing auroral displays means ice age or something.

Unbelievable the dribble some will lap up as gospel.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 06 Oct 2017, 22:17

Had another shufti at the fake ice age channel. . .hmmm why is he pushing Bitcoin so hard? Must be because he can make money from the numpties that follow him with it. A few asked awkward questions about what if the internet goes down, how do you access your bitcoins? Good question (given the idiotic assumptions Dubyne has foisted on the numpties.)

Still saying a GSM will cause an ice age: the last GSM, the Maunder Minimum did not cause the LIA. Why can’t the numpties see this flaw in the snake oil Dubyne peddles?
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 11 Oct 2017, 08:17

Dubyne still continuing with the three themes:

1. Grain shortages—despite record harvests, even the Kansas winter wheat losses due to a blizzard in late spring were trivial (and that wheat was at a much more advanced stage of growth due to the warm winter and spring in the US that Dubyne never mentions :roll :bgrin At least in my neck of the woods the grain is standing tall and strong and some has been harvested with bales of hay in the fields. Never, ever believe those with an agenda!

2. Bitcoin is the solution (what was the question?) Yup, must be selling Bitcoin to his idiot followers like Booby.

3. The govt is hiding the TROOT! We know the TROOT is out there! Pure snake oil, first thing to do is get the suckers to distrust the official record. We know Dubyne has form lying about thick Arctic ice but we also know that a cruise ship sailed the North West Passage that Dubyne lied and said would be blocked by thick ice—he sneakily withdrew that video from his playlist, can’t let his deluded followers see he is a bum prophet :jump We also know that Arctic Mission, two yachts no icebreaker support sailed to 80°N and found a million square kilometres of Arctic Ocean ice free last NH summer. Dubyne is full of shit.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 27 Oct 2017, 07:27

The idiot Booby’s hero, snake oil salesman Dubyne, has a new video:

Moldy seeds, moldy grapes, European vineyards wiped out.

Can probably ignore the last bit.

If we had an ice age like the idiot cretin Booby thinks there would be more water locked up as ice, lower temperatures so lower evaporation. But we have the opposite, AGW with warmer air and warmer seas causing MORE evaporation and the warmer air can hold 8% more moisture than it could in 1850. So molds, and other problems, diseases, algal blooms and mosquito borne diseases are becoming more common.

Had a quick look at comments:

it is the chemtrails, mainly at night, make them stop.

(in USA) getting moldy oranges, pineapples.
(Well, d’uh idiot, Florida got hit with several hurricanes bringing rain, floods etc. Why can’t these morons think?) It is probably the hurricanes that Dubyne was counting on getting his cretinous and deluded followers to supply examples of moldy fruit and the idiots stampeded to give examples.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Nov 2017, 17:42

Oh yeah, bad harvests due to a non–existent ice age.

Driving through the Adelaide Hills to North and to the South what do I see? Harvest in, bales of hay in the fields, vines (in the wine making bits) look good and healthy. Who believes crap about a fucking ice age when the poles are undergoing huge fucking warming, an East Antarctica glacier is sliding into the sea as are two large glaciers, Pine Island and Thwaites in West Antarctica? On Greenland two large glaciers are retreating rapidly, Petermann and Jacobshavn. There is a third large glacier could join these two.

Squire posted just how hot non–El Nino 2017 is, was second hottest up until September, will be second or third hottest year on record.

But parts—only parts FFS—of Canada and the northern USA have got some snow—ooohhh! Ice Age screams Dubyne and his dipshit followers like Booby all agree. Really, really dumb bastards! Probably just something to do with the Jetstream, Arctic air able to escape southwards. The warmer the air and seas get the more evaporation followed by more precipitation as rain, hail or snow there is.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Nov 2017, 17:44

The dumb cunts and brain damaged cretins—some make Light look rational I tells ya—cannot distinguish between more precipitation as snow and lower temperatures.
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Re: New Ice Age myths

Postby HBS Guy » 12 Nov 2017, 08:42

What Dubyne is really illustrating, besides that he cannot be trusted, is that precipitation is higher than even 20 years ago. This is caused by a warmer world, warmer air and warmer seas causing more evaporation and the warmer air able to hold about 7–8% more moisture.

What allows him to keep fooling the simple minded like Booby? The Jetstream is weaker because temperatures are equalising on either side of it: Polar areas are warming 2-3 times faster than the rest of the globe because of the albedo effect: white snow/ice that reflects most light hitting it being more and more replaced by dark rock and ocean that absorbs most of the light and thereby warming. This affects mid–latitude weather. This means Arctic (and Antarctic weather through a different mechanism) air can escape south. If blocked by a large stable cyclone this air brings blizzards and snow to the areas under it.

Only the most feeble minded, like Booby, can’t figure out cause and effect and believe a snake oil seller who, it is clear, knows nothing about climate and just reports cold weather.

Dubyne makes big play about summer snow. Yet that does happen occasionally in Australia and New Zealand. He made one video based on cold weather in Brazil but this is a natural phenomenon not an ice age thing:

A blast of Antarctic air, a friagen. Happened this SH winter too. Is global warming weakening the circum Antarctic winds?


That is what I quoted in Booby’s idiotic Ice Age thread. Read more, Rio covered in snow, yet was only a record 10 years:

http://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-politics/record-breaking-cold-hits-rio-de-janeiro-and-sao-paulo/

Booby is only a Messenger, he says time after time, a convenient way of not needing to understand or defend the Dubyne bullshit. Bah!
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