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Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 20 Sep 2017, 16:44
by HBS Guy
For one, the US military is having to make large commitments to deal with the results of AGW: flooding from rain as hurricanes get fed with more energy and more moisture from warmer seas, flooding by sea as sea levels keep rising, the damage from ever fiercer winds. Food production might also be affected: flooding destroying crops, etc.

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 04 Oct 2017, 04:42
by HBS Guy
The threat to coral reefs:

While “coral nurseries” can help restock reefs with new coral it can’t keep pace with increases to ocean temperatures caused by AGW.

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 11 Oct 2017, 08:22
by HBS Guy
Wildfires. As the world warms the dry seasons get hotter and wildfires get bigger and more destructive and wildfire seasons get longer.

On the east coast of the US, the Georgia–Florida are a wildfire has burned for over a year. On the west coast there have been huge wildfires—and wildfires are still burning!

Los Angeles is really copping it with nasty wildfires at the moment.

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 13 Oct 2017, 06:21
by HBS Guy
15 people killed in the northern Californinian wildfires. The fires are in the Napa Valley, winemaking country. As the firemen say, the summers are longer, i.e. the wildfire season is longer just like the bushfire season here is longer. The longer season makes fuel reduction burns difficult—a number of recent bushfires were fuel reduction burns that got out of control.

Most of the fires were caused by arsonists, as they are here. In Adelaide on bushfire danger days the cops visit known arsonists and tell them they are being watched and not to go to the Hills are where the forests are. Works well but if a fire does start the heat and tinder dry dead grass etc sees the fire race out of control.

The world is warming and longer wildfire seasons and bigger, more dangerous fires is one inevitable result.

Seven numbers that describe the Californian fires:

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 14 Oct 2017, 01:38
by HBS Guy
Many wildfires burning out of control on the US and Canadian west coast.

Just like the southern half of Australia it seems the northwest part of the US is also warming and drying out.

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 18 Oct 2017, 09:58
by HBS Guy
Tropical Cyclone/Hurricane Ophelia is causing concern to climatologists:

Before being downgraded to a post-tropical cyclone, Ophelia was a Category 3 hurricane on Saturday and Sunday. It went farther east than any other previously recorded Category 3 hurricane in the Atlantic Basin and broke a record set in 1980.

“As sea surface temperatures continue to warm, the region of the Atlantic Ocean that can support the genesis and strengthening of tropical storms and hurricanes is expanding eastward,” said Michael Mann, a distinguished professor of atmospheric science and the director of the Earth System Science Center at Penn State University.

Hurricanes are not only reaching much farther to the east, but they’re forming farther east as well, Mann noted. Hurricane Irma, which devastated parts of the Caribbean and the southeastern United States last month, was the strongest hurricane to ever form as far east in the Atlantic as it did, he said.

Mann is not the only one:
Kevin Trenberth, a distinguished senior scientist in the Climate Analysis Section at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, said it’s not unprecedented for an Atlantic storm to affect Europe ― it happens “every 3 or 4 years or so,” he said ― but added that there is “an unusual aspect to this.”

The storm’s eastward reach also coincides with another record, Trenberth said.

“[S]torms forming farther to the east and becoming strong is a sign of warmer oceans, and this year has seen the highest upper ocean heat content on record in the tropical Atlantic.”

Just like Hurricane Sandy that hit and flooded New York was energised along its track north in the Atlantic by high sea surface temperatures now higher temperatures in the east Atlantic are sending hurricanes further east.[/quote]

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 18 Oct 2017, 10:10
by HBS Guy
Even liar Dubyne gets in on the act—and accidentally implicitly confirms heating of Atlantic waters, not something he meant to do, the dickhead. So ignorant yet Booby sends him money and believes all the lies he tells in his ridiculous videos!

Hurricane Ophellia somehow has pulled Saharan dust from the western edges of the African continent in a strange N-S wind pattern. The flow is usually from west Africa to eastern coast of N. America.

Not linking to the liar! “somehow” “strange N-S wind pattern” are the liar avoiding mentioning that high Atlantic sea surface temperatures caused Ophelia to form much further east than normal, i.e. that the globe is warming not cooling and AGW is real as we know, from measurements of thermal IR being blocked by GHGs from escaping to space meaning the IR warms the lower atmosphere and the surface.

The sandstorm (not really as Dubyne says, more a layer of dust brought down by rain, the water evaporates leaving the dust, on cars most noticeably) was brought to the UK by TC Ophelia.

The winds bringing the dust from the Sahara to Europe and the UK were part of TC Ophelia which started from and travelled further east than other hurricanes. And that was due to high Atlantic sea surface temperatures! So Dubyne just confirmed AGW is happening! :roll :rofl :rofl :rofl

Dubyne also crapped on about crop losses, take these with a grain or truckload of salt. But with a succession of hurricanes, fed by warmer and warmer Atlantic sea surface temperatures what else do you expect? But crop losses, mostly imaginary, are a constant theme of the Dubyne videos obviously to scare the brain damaged followers into buying the “survival food” Dubyne pushes. An attempt to get the cretins to buy Bitcoin backfired: if there is a huge calamity like you are saying how can we access our Bitcoins? was the response. Dubyne is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 18 Oct 2017, 10:41
by HBS Guy
The idiot Monckton too has shown that AGW is real (not that he meant to do that:)

The prediction according to Monckton

I have checked the IPCC’s First Assessment Report from 1990 which predicted global warming of about 1.1ºC between 1990 and 2030.

It clearly predicts an increase of 0.3ºC per decade (with an uncertainty range of up to 0.5 degrees per century) which would give an increase of 3ºC in a century – not 4.2ºC.

In Monckton’s time frame of 16 years from 2,000, the figure of 0.3ºC per decade equates to a predicted increase of 0.48 degrees.

The actual increase, according to science

So Monckton’s figure of 0.47ºC as the “observed reality” would show the scientific predictions to be one-hundredth of a degree out after nearly 16 years — an amazing feat.

Far from proving climate science wrong, it would appear at first glance he has proved it to be extremely accurate.

But this figure is not “observed reality”. It is the result of his mathematical prestidigitation, which involves averaging monthly satellite readings and determining the “least-squares linear-regression trend on their mean”.

(And, yes, you’re right, it’s usually the climate change deniers who allege that scientists mess with figures!),10828

I think it is only complete idiots like the brain damaged juliar on OzPol still believe in Teh Pause. This hurricane season (not over yet) has blown apart AGW denialism. Funny that Dubyne has not mentioned Ophelia :rofl :rofl :rofl

Watch WattsUp and JoNova further retreat their denialism.

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 18 Oct 2017, 23:38
by HBS Guy
It appears what hit the UK wasn’t the Saharan sand but smoke from the wildfires in Spain and Portugal!

Liar Dubyne also mentioned the grain harvest in Finland hit for the third year running by moisture. Well, d’uh, AGW means more evaporation followed by precipitation. Could also be the Jet Stream wavering or stuck directing moisture to Finland just like the bight of part of the Jetstream stationary sent rain away from California causing a 5 year drought there. Or the open Arctic Ocean that used to be under thick ice. I know it is not a mythical ice age :rofl :rofl :rofl

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2017, 10:06
by HBS Guy
40 people killed and 63 injured in the wildfires in Spain and Portugal.

And abbott says AGW is more beneficial than harmfull. and Booby says we are heading into an ice age? How can people be so fucking stupid?

Photos show Portugal and Spain in flames. A series of fires in both countries this week killed more than 40 people and injured at least 63 more.

The fires began over the weekend and grew stronger on Sunday as remnants of ex-Hurricane Ophelia exacerbated the flames. Portugal’s forests have been burning all summer, and the Portuguese Institute of Sea and Atmosphere reports September was the country’s driest month on record since 1930.

Drought and high temperatures magnified fires that Spanish authorities believe were started by arsonists. “What we are dealing with here is something that is not caused by accident. It has been provoked,” Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy told the press on Monday.

Fires are still burning in northwestern Spain but don’t currently pose a threat to population centers. As of Tuesday morning, all active fires in Portugal had been extinguished. However, frightening images of smoke and destruction remain:

If you want to see the photos visit the linked article. The fires were so big that they turned the skies red over much of the UK.

Needless to say if we were in an ice age vegetation would not be so dry (less evaporation) and temperatures so high. Unless you are brain damaged how can anyone believe we are in an ice age because of a GSM when the (normal) solar minimum hasn’t even started? (2019) Some strong compulsion to believe must operate to get people to believe in an ice age even as the poles melt.

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2017, 10:42
by HBS Guy
When you are a cretin like Booby or The Moronic you think the increased sea ice that saw all but two out of thousands of Adele penguin chicks die is a sign of the ice age (Booby did say this on OzPol!)

Read on:

Scientists are seeking increased environmental protections after an entire breeding season of Adelie penguin chicks was wiped out in a key colony in east Antarctica.

Only two chicks survived the massive die-off among the thousands born to 18,000 pairs of breeding adults, researchers reported. Scientists believe most of the dead chicks starved as frequently absent parents were forced to travel farther in search of food due to the effects of climate change.

International officials began meeting Monday in Australia to consider a marine sanctuary in the area to help avoid another disaster.

Scientists have characterized the die-off on Terre Adelie as a “catastrophic breeding failure.”

Ironically, in a time of global warming, the most significant factor this year was that the adult penguins were blocked from the sea by more ice than usual, forcing them to travel longer distances before they could swim for food while the chicks starved. The extra ice was due to the breakup of the Mertz glacier in 2010 as waters warmed.[My emphasis]

The chicks were also drenched by unusual rains followed by low temperatures, which caused many to freeze to death, according to researchers.

Rain in Antarctica! All this happened in EAST Antarctica, note!

As part of an effort led by France and Australia, the Commission for the Conservation of Antarctic Marine Living Resources is meeting through Oct. 27 in Hobart, on the Australian island state of Tasmania, to discuss creating a massive marine protected area close to 400,000 square miles in the area. The commission, whose members include the European Union and 24 other nations, was established by treaty nearly 40 years ago to conserve marine life in the Antarctic. Plans were initiated in 2009 to establish a series of such sanctuaries, but they have been stymied by struggles over fishing rights.

Krill fishing FFS!

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2017, 23:16
by HBS Guy
An “atmospheric river” of storms stretching from the east coast of China to the north west coast of the US/west coast of Canada and causing record precipitation.

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 11 Nov 2017, 05:51
by HBS Guy
Longer hotter summers create more smog and pollen, leading to more/worse asthma attacks:

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 12 Nov 2017, 20:38
by HBS Guy
New Zealand’s winter shorter by 30 days, study finds

Winter in New Zealand has been shorted by 30 days over the last 100 years, meaning that “true winter”, with very low temperatures and snow starts significantly later and ends earlier.

Link from Malta! The influence of the internet!

More seriously, it just shows how fuel reduction burns are getting harder to do, just a narrow and closing window as AGW keeps on going.

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 17 Nov 2017, 06:43
by HBS Guy
Coffee will get vastly dearer and won’t taste as good.

• Due to increasing warmth

• Due to more pests and diseases, an indirect effect of AGW

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 17 Nov 2017, 08:59
by HBS Guy
Oh no! Cider production might be harmed by AGW:

From an American member of the cider group:

The apples on my old
Baldwin ripen on the tree in mid October to early November and it can take
a long time to sweat to the right point of ripeness unless the weather is
warm like this fall.

Warm like this fall. . .so the snow that fell was either local or was precipitation not low temperature. Bet all that snow is long gone.

If it gets a bit warmer will that make cider making impossible in some areas? Or will cider makers, like wine makers, have to adapt to earlier harvests and different varieties? Fuck, wine, cider, coffee all affected by AGW! Wheat will be in trouble in a decade or two, wheat growing areas becoming too hot, more heat resistant varieties already being grown but eventually—farmers will have to switch to other crops.

I guess wheat will be grown in increasingly cooler areas BUT: the south of this country is drying out and may not be suitable for growing wheat.

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 20 Nov 2017, 20:51
by HBS Guy
Paris set down 1.5°C and 2°C temperature increase. 0.5°C difference—no big deal, right?

Well, yeah, difference, like tropical heatwaves lasting 3 instead of 2 months. Serious study into this is now being undertaken.

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 23 Nov 2017, 09:27
by HBS Guy
Kelp beds—nurseries of a huge variety of fish—are disappearing due to warmer oceans:

steady increase in ocean temperatures — nearly 3 degrees Fahrenheit in recent decades — was all it took to doom the once-luxuriant giant kelp forests of eastern Australia and Tasmania: Thick canopies that once covered much of the region’s coastal sea surface have wilted in intolerably warm and nutrient-poor water. Then, a warm-water sea urchin species moved in. Voracious grazers, the invaders have mowed down much of the remaining vegetation and, over vast areas, have formed what scientists call urchin barrens, bleak marine environments largely devoid of life.

Today, more than 95 percent of eastern Tasmania’s kelp forests — luxuriant marine environments that provide food and shelter for species at all levels of the food web — are gone. With the water still warming rapidly and the long-spine urchin spreading southward in the favorable conditions, researchers see little hope of saving the vanishing ecosystem.

“Our giant kelp forests are now a tiny fraction of their former glory,” says Craig Johnson, a researcher at the University of Tasmania’s Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies. “This ecosystem used to be a major iconic feature of eastern Tasmania, and it no longer is.”

A predator of the warm water sea urchins needs to be introduced:
And in northern California, a series of events that began several years ago has destroyed the once-magnificent bull kelp forests along hundreds of miles of coastline. A brief shutdown of upwelling cycles left the giant algae groves languishing in warm surface water, causing a massive die-off. Meanwhile, a disease rapidly wiped out the region’s urchin-eating sea stars, causing a devastating cascade of effects: Overpopulated urchins have grazed away much of the remaining vegetation, creating a subsurface wasteland littered with shells of starved abalone. Scientists see no recovery in sight.

A 2016 study noted a global average decrease in kelp abundance, with warming waters directly driving some losses. But the researchers said that a characteristic of kelp forest declines is their extreme regional variability. Some areas are even experiencing a growth in kelp forests, including the west coast of Vancouver Island, where an increasing population of urchin-hunting sea otters has reduced the impacts of the spiny grazers, allowing kelp to flourish. Ultimately researchers say, warming ocean waters are expected to take a toll on the world’s kelp forests. The 2016 paper, coauthored by 37 scientists, concluded that “kelp forests are increasingly threatened by a variety of human impacts, including climate change, overfishing, and direct harvest.”

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 29 Nov 2017, 08:25
by HBS Guy
Apples dropping off the tree too early—excess warmththe culprit:,752

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 03 Dec 2017, 13:17
by HBS Guy
As the temperatures and sea levels keep rising and the tundra consequently melting important archaeological sites and artifacts are missing in Alaska:

But it's the changes in the environment that are the most profound: With temperatures rising faster in the Arctic than anywhere else in the world, the very ground on which communities are built is slumping as the permafrost thaws, and the sea ice that sustains vital animal populations is melting earlier and re-forming later than ever before. Less sea ice means stronger storms and bigger waves, and villages across the region are at risk of falling into the sea as each year coastal erosion eats away at the shoreline. As Ahsoak works to preserve Inupiaq culture, the physical world that shaped that culture is facing an urgent threat.

That's the context in which the archaeologist Anne Jensen, a native of upstate New York who arrived in Utqiagvik 22 years ago, is at work on another project of cultural preservation. The Ukpeaġvik Iñupiat Corporation (UIC), the local native corporation, hired her in the 1990s to help preserve and learn about archaeological sites in the area. Every summer, Jensen and a crew of volunteers venture out to remote areas, sleeping in tents to excavate sites that are hundreds or thousands of years old. It was on one of these digs in the early 2000s that Jensen and Ahsoak first crossed paths—he worked as a logistics coordinator and bear guard as Jensen excavated a historical site on Point Barrow, learning about how Ahsoak's ancestors once lived. While their methods differ, Ahsoak and Jensen's missions in many ways align.

And in climate change, they face a common obstacle.

The homes, weapons, and even bodies that Jensen digs up are extraordinarily well preserved—unlike archaeological sites elsewhere in the world, these pieces of history have been locked in ice. But as the permafrost thaws, so do these sites, and as erosion eats away at the coast, it's washing away the history locked inside it. Once gone, the story that these sites can tell, about food webs, migratory patterns, and traditional ways of life, will disappear too. Just as Ahsoak is working to preserve his community's traditions, Jensen is racing to capture this historical record before it's lost—and, perhaps, to find in the region's past some answers for its future.

Yeah we are in an Ice Age alright, fuck me, how dumb do you have to be to believe that??? :OMG

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 07 Dec 2017, 07:27
by HBS Guy
After devastating fires in the northern part of the state California now has wildfires in the south—in winter!

And the idiot Trump killed off a panel that was helping US cities prepare and adapt to climate change.

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 09 Dec 2017, 12:14
by HBS Guy
The Brunt iceshelf forming some deep crevases:

A revision of the manuscript is under review for the journal The Cryosphere (TC).
Recent rift formation and impact on the structural integrity of the Brunt Ice Shelf, East Antarctica

Jan De Rydt1, G. Hilmar Gudmundsson1, Thomas Nagler2, Jan Wuite2, and Edward C. King1
1British Antarctic Survey, High Cross, Madingley Road, CB3 0ET, Cambridge, UK
2ENVEO, ICT-Technologiepark, Technikerstr. 21a, 6020 Innsbruck, Austria
Received: 31 Aug 2017 – Accepted for review: 11 Sep 2017 – Discussion started: 12 Sep 2017

Abstract. We report on the recent reactivation of a large chasm in the Brunt Ice Shelf, East Antarctica, in December 2012, and the formation of a 50-km long new rift in October 2016. Observations from a suite of ground based and remote sensing instruments between January 2000 and July 2017 were used to track progress of both cracks in unprecedented detail. Results reveal a steady accelerating trend in the widening of the rifts, in combination with alternating episodes of fast (> 600 m/day) and slow propagation of the crack tip, controlled by the heterogeneous structure of the ice shelf. A numerical ice-flow model and a simple fracture propagation criterion were successfully used to hindcast the observed trajectories, and to simulate future rift progression under different assumptions, showing a high likelihood of ice loss at the McDonald Ice Rumples, the only pinning point of the ice shelf. The nascent iceberg calving and associated reduction in pinning of the Brunt Ice Shelf may provide a uniquely monitored natural experiment of ice shelf variability, and provoke a deeper understanding of similar processes elsewhere in Antarctica.

Funny that all this destabilisation and retreat of ice even in East Antarctic keeps happening. Haven’t people told the ice that we are in an ice age? :rofl :rofl :rofl

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 10 Dec 2017, 00:16
by HBS Guy
The most northerly town might disappear because it is warming rapidly and the melting permafrost is causing buildings to crack etc. This, I repeat, is the most northerly place on the planet!

LONGYEARBYEN, Norway — It’s freezing, snowing and so far north that the sun won’t rise again until March, but the 2,000 residents of the world’s most northerly town wish it were much colder.

That’s because the weather here on Norway’s Arctic Circle island of Svalbard is tame in comparison to what it should be, despite the icy breeze that flows in from the sea.

Residents and experts fear this tight-knit community — where polar bears outnumber people — is at risk of disappearing because temperatures are rising at an accelerated pace compared to the rest of the world.

“Every single consecutive month has been above average,” said Kim Holmén, international director of the Norwegian Polar Institute. “We have tremendous increase in the wintertime temperatures, almost 10 degrees Celsius (18 degrees Fahrenheit) increase over the past 30 years or so.”

“Wherever I look there is change, very obvious change. The snow melts earlier in the spring, the glaciers are diminishing by a foot, 2 feet per year in thickness,” Holmén said from the Svalbard Science Center in Longyearbyen. “It influences life, it influences the landscape, and it influences the people, of course.”

Melting permafrost and higher temperatures have caused havoc here in recent years, triggering sometimes deadly avalanches on the steep mountains that flank the town. Houses have been destroyed, while roads and some areas have been closed or declared unsafe to live because of the risk.

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 10 Dec 2017, 01:39
by pinkeye
Thanks for your efforts to enlighten and inform on this MOST CRITICAL ISSUE for the survival of the human race.

I think there are a lot of people in denial. They don't want to know. They'd rather push for more coal-fired power stations , because they can't see beyond their own life span, and they'll be fine. :sad

It is this deliberate intransience which will ultimately doom us to , at best, the fringes of survival.
I HATE that there is propaganda being aired daily on the teev talking about new coal powered energy as good. I MEAN ????? WTF?

OOOOHH Japan is going to build dozens of low-emission coal powered plants.!! I hear this from people I'd never expect to. Because it's on the teev SO .. it's OK.. we can do this with no harm. FFS.
:mad :mad :mad :mad

I don't have kids, nor any family for that matter that I'd be concerned about. And those I do have will get what they deserve, or their children, their grandkids will pay for this most profligate human excess.

I HATE THOSE ADS. They should be banned as political lies and propaganda.

The US state of California is a disaster area. I wonder where the remnants of humanity will end up . I'll never know, though.
BUT I STILL CARE. :sad :sad

Re: Consequences of AGW

PostPosted: 17 Dec 2017, 14:55
by HBS Guy
There are more subtle effects of AGW too.

The pine bark beetle in Canada and the US is devastating softwood forests down the west coast: usually winter cold would kill all but a few pine bark beetles but now the winters are mild and too many of the beetles survice, breed, and kill pine and fir trees.

Now another beetle is able due to AGW to breed much faster and so do vast damage to trees: