Where are we in the Milankovitch cycle?

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Where are we in the Milankovitch cycle?

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Milankovitch was a Serbian astronomer who detected that the earths orbit changes at regular intervals, due to Jupiter moving close. The tilt of the earths axis also changes and this brings on major ice ages. These forcings are not strong and regular major ice ages did not happen until CO2 dropped below 300ppm.

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We are close to a Milankovitch minima and won’t have less insolation for 50k years. The current additional non volatile greenhouse forcing ie 46%CO2, 175%CH4,... moves us back several mellenium(sic) on the green curve!

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No more major ice ages! We are not in an interglacial we are at the start of the ice sheets melting.

There will be no minor ice age either even if and when the sun goes into a GSM: they cool only by 0.2°C which is how much AGW is warming us.

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HBS Guy wrote:Milankovitch was a Serbian astronomer who detected that the earths orbit changes at regular intervals, due to Jupiter moving close. The tilt of the earths axis also changes and this brings on major ice ages. These forcings are not strong and regular major ice ages did not happen until CO2 dropped below 300ppm.

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We are close to a Milankovitch minima and won’t have less insolation for 50k years. The current additional non volatile greenhouse forcing ie 46%CO2, 175%CH4,... moves us back several mellenium(sic) on the green curve!

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No more major ice ages! We are not in an interglacial we are at the start of the ice sheets melting.

There will be no minor ice age either even if and when the sun goes into a GSM: they cool only by 0.2°C which is how much AGW is warming us.
Some claim that that amount of water released from the icebergs will increase the tilt.

Has anyone sought the opinion of the weather forecaster Indigo Jones including his family’s opinion of Climate Change
Scientists and their predictions.

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Why doesn't chuck seek the opinion of whoever the f*** he's dropping names about this week? :rofl
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Weather forecaster is not a climatologist.

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HBS Guy wrote:Weather forecaster is not a climatologist.
Then Milankovitic is a weather forecaster like Indigo Jones?

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Bongalong wrote:Why doesn't chuck seek the opinion of whoever the f*** he's dropping names about this week? :rofl
I believe his son is still forecasting long range weather patterns.

Indigo Jones paper, entitled ‘Meteorology as a branch of astronomy’, surveyed international research into the use of astronomical cycles for long range weather forecasting. As Jones explained, the idea that our weather might be determined by celestial events was ‘by no means new’.

The appearance of spots on the surface of the sun had long been the source of conjecture, particularly when it was recognised, around the middle of the nineteenth century, that the number of sunspots increases and decreases on a regular cycle of around 11 years. Given that the sun dominates our experience of weather, might not this sunspot cycle set in motion regular changes in the Earth’s climate?


Inigo used these cycles and the Bruckner cycle of 35-36 years to predict the 1974 floods, which was 20 years after his death and the great drought of 1983 to 1993, which was 30 years after his death

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Sounds like a fuckwit!

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HBS Guy wrote:Sounds like a fuckwit!
Just sounds like ur a biased prick!
I normally don’t like using expletive but it simply proves why people don’t remain on this site.

Both Milankovitic and Jones assessment is based on Astronomy!

Wake up too ur self u TWIT!

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No. “Long range weather forecasters” are frauds. You cannot predict weather for more than 2 weeks—too chaotic.

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HBS Guy wrote:No. “Long range weather forecasters” are frauds. You cannot predict weather for more than 2 weeks—too chaotic.
So Milankovitic theory is fraudulent and shouldn’t be given any credence?

His theory and Jones are based on Astronomy, and both should be considered as frauds.

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Milankovitch Cycles are the changes to the earths orbit and inclination.

We should be experiencing glaciations now, according to Milankovitch.

His forcings tho were weak, and regular major ice ages did not start until CO₂ dropped to under 300ppm.

Now CO₂ is 413 ppm and the glaciation that is not here shows MCs are not very strong.Sun spots, oh please!

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What about the following crap?

Then USAF Dragon Lady U2 aircraft used for weather modification and earthquake production, and trace the history of weather modification experiments conducted during the war in Vietnam (Operation Popeye).

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Chuck wrote:What about the following crap?

Then USAF Dragon Lady U2 aircraft used for weather modification and earthquake production, and trace the history of weather modification experiments conducted during the war in Vietnam (Operation Popeye).

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Bongalong wrote:
Chuck wrote:What about the following crap?

Then USAF Dragon Lady U2 aircraft used for weather modification and earthquake production, and trace the history of weather modification experiments conducted during the war in Vietnam (Operation Popeye).

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Got a source for that? :bike :bike
Other, lazy left wing tactic - need someone to wipe their arse for them!

Get off ur backside and simply search the internet!

Operation Popeye (Project Controlled Weather Popeye / Motorpool / Intermediary-Compatriot) was a highly classified weather modification program in Southeast Asia during 1967–1972. The cloud seeding operation during the Vietnam War ran from March 20, 1967 until July 5, 1972 in an attempt to extend the monsoon season, specifically over areas of the Ho Chi Minh Trail. The operation was used to induce rain and extend the East Asian Monsoon season in support of U.S. government efforts related to the War in Southeast Asia.

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You post something be prepared to back it up or your argument will be Chuck[ed] out.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeye - for Herr Lazy HBS.

The following could be of interest to the climate change debate.

The sun is just four DAYS away from a solar minimum record. Article in the Daily Mail

The sun is unusually quiet and docile, with no sunspots seen on its surface in 264 days — just four days short of setting a new record.

The sun typically follows an 11 year cycle of activity, and scientists have recently confirmed we are in the midst of a 'solar minimum'.
...... almost idyllic appearance but this faux calm can lead to magnetic storms which interfere with satellites, affect air travel and can even knock out power grids. 

This solar slowdown often causes temporary cooling in Earth's atmosphere. 
When the sun entered a solar minimum between 1650 and 1710, NASA said the Earth was plunged into a 'deep freeze'.

Also the Earth's magnetic north is moving at 30 miles a year towards Russia. In 1900, north was close to Canada but by 2025 it will about mid-point between Canada and Russia (Arctic Ocean)

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You are mixing up Grand Solar Minimums with regular solar minimums as one cycle gives way to the next.

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HBS Guy wrote:You are mixing up Grand Solar Minimums with regular solar minimums as one cycle gives way to the next.
Just go and read the article and then put forward ur argument!

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I have read all that and argued it with nitwits on Twitter.

We should be in major glaciation right now. We are not.

The Maunder Minimum was deadly because the LIA had already lowered temperatures (mostly due vulcanism.)

A GSM cools by 0.2°C. AGW warms by 0.2°C per decade.

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Chuck wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:You are mixing up Grand Solar Minimums with regular solar minimums as one cycle gives way to the next.
Just go and read the article and then put forward ur argument!

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You're a nutbar mate :rofl
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