Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 08 Apr 2016, 23:10

Bit of a compendium of campaign newsbites on PBX:

http://pbxmastragics.com/2016/04/08/fra ... ent-231002
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 08 Apr 2016, 23:20

Labor has the settled Leader, a strong team and starts with the advantage in the loooong election campaign.

http://www.afr.com/news/politics/bill-s ... z45Eac4uiJ
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Apr 2016, 09:07

Widespread corruption and bribery in industry is going to be a trap for Malcolm. Their automatic rejection of the need for an RC into banking and finance is going to come back and haunt the Libs:

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2016/4/8/economy/corporate-corruption-catches-govt

Business Spectator is a Murdoch publication these days—they have it in for Malcolm for some reason. Can’t want abbott back, surely? He was going to see the biggest wipeout in history at the next election.
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Apr 2016, 13:44

This week the Parliamentary Budget Office released analysis that suggests mortgage interest rates will soon rise to 8.5 per cent, an increase that would cost a household with a $500,000 mortgage around $15,000 per year. But no one noticed and no one panicked. We were too busy blaming university students for making governments ‘live beyond their means’.

In order to scare people about the ‘cost’ of investing in the education of the young the PBO took it upon itself to repackage government data about the cost of education in some creative new ways.



In the lead up to the budget there is nothing like a ‘cost blowout’ story to give a government the opportunity to tell us we all need to ‘tighten our belts’. And so it was with the headlines created by the PBO report. Young people, it seems, have had it too good for too long. Tough decisions will need to be made. I bet no one tells the wealthy retirees that.

While the headlines following the release of the PBO report suggest a generous system in crisis, the reality is that the ‘blow out’ is caused by both the questionable assumption that interest rates will double and – wait for it – the decision to jack up the prices of university degrees, which will jack up the level of debt that young graduates will incur.

But don’t take my word for it, the PBO make clear in their report that “The size of the HELP loan portfolio is projected to grow rapidly through to 2025-26, driven mainly by projected increases in student fees from 2017 due to the announced higher education reforms. The PBO projections assume that universities will increase their fees to recover the reductions in subsidies under the Commonwealth Grant Scheme. This will require an average increase in fees of 40 per cent for students affected by the changes.”

Did you get that? In addition to assuming big increases in interest rates the PBO is assuming that students are going to face a 40 per cent increase in the cost of going to university. And because their fees are going to be so much higher, guess what? Their HECS debts are going to be a lot higher as well.

Australian public debate is so broken – so filled with econobabble – that the government is saying that it, like households, must ‘live within its means’ while simultaneously forcing young people to incur massive debts if they want a good education.


http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment/test-the-assumptions-before-tightening-your-belt-20160408-go1p40.html
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Apr 2016, 14:02

From PollBludger via PBX:

Posted Saturday, April 9, 2016 at 6:46 am | PERMALINK
The Panama Papers bolster the tax narrative that Labor is using to try to flip Australia’s traditional economic debate on its head.
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/apr/08/panama-papers-boost-malcolm-turnbulls-chances-of-falling-into-labors-tax-trap

Seven months into their partnership, Malcolm Turnbull and Scott Morrison are struggling to reconcile their different styles.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2016/04/09/inside-the-malcolm-turnbull-scott-morrison-divide/14601240003108

An inquiry focused on the illegality of offshore wagering rather than the dire social consequences is being sat on by government.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2016/04/09/sports-gambling-advertising-and-the-barry-ofarrell-review/14601240003092

As stories emerge of contractors beating children on Nauru, Wilson Security’s entire operation looks increasingly broken.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/politics/2016/04/09/wilson-securitys-appalling-record-nauru/14601240003105

One hundred years ago there were only 20 lions left in Asia.
http://www.theage.com.au/good-weekend/the-pride-of-india-20160407-go0qex.html

One shed? Around 30,000 chickens
http://www.theage.com.au/queensland/fire-kills-30000-chickens-at-queensland-poultry-farm-20160408-go2c4o.html

Australia’s nuclear medicine industry provides a crucial service to the nation, writes Dr Geoff Currie.
https://newmatilda.com/2016/04/08/nuclear-waste-home-truths

“The consequences or effects of a rule need not necessarily always be the same,” Francis wrote,
http://www.theage.com.au/world/amoris-laetitia-pope-francis-and-the-erotic-dimension-of-love-20160408-go2c9q.html
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Apr 2016, 17:37

A little theme (meme?) that is developing is those members of the CPG and wider media who can see and think are slowly recognising that Bill Shorten is the Labor Leader with a united, quality team behind him and that Bill himself has many, many good qualities needed in a Leader.

Idiots. You don’t lead a big union without acquiring those qualities. When the Beaconsfield mine collapsed (due to greed of management insisting “pillars” of native rock be mined too thin) and trapped two miners it was Shorten who was there until the miners were rescued. Not a single Howard govt minister thought it was a good idea to go there, not one.

Leonore Taylor, Gordon Street, Laura Tingle (so rapt in the image of Turnbull as moderate, intelligent yadda yadda Leader she still has not quite yet given up on Turnbull) and a few others.

Makes reading political articles interesting: has this writer woken up the real Turnbull & Shorten? Merde-och writers will only write what they are told to write so don’t look there :roll :bgrin

Here is an example:
Bill Shorten is back in the game as the Liberals short-circuit

Suddenly, Bill Shorten is a dud no more. He may still be only marginally livelier than a dead tree, but the candidacy of a former loser-in-waiting is ridiculous no longer.

Labor is competitive in all the polls

Shorten, as unappealing as he was only a short time ago, now has a significant advantage over the government in public policy positions. Even if we don’t like him, as with John Howard, we know his positions. And so far, they’re often good.


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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 13 Apr 2016, 16:39

http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/12/panama-papers-global-tax-officials-inquiry-paris-meeting

This ugly revelation of sheltering of income by the 1% is going to help Labor heaps in the election. These rich scumbags expect to enjoy all the benefits of civilisation except paying for it. Alot of their wealth will be handouts from governments too: tax incentives, privatisations, outsourcing etc etc, all of which make some filthy rich, all their money unearned, while costing everyone else.
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 13 Apr 2016, 17:42

Part of the Arrium (Whyalla) story:

http://www.smh.com.au/business/mining-and-resources/lenders-union-team-up-to-dump-arrium-administrator-grant-thornton-20160412-go4rr6.html

The dickhead doing NSW Premier impressions ordered (inferior) steel from China for a rail line instead of from Whyalla. These cunts do not care for the country or for “ordinary” people.
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 15 Apr 2016, 15:13

Gold for Labor:

Australian children have poorer health and education outcomes than Latvia, Slovenia and Croatia, a new report from UNICEF has revealed.

The Fairness for Children report, released on Thursday, shows Australia ranks 27th out of 35 in health equality outcomes among OECD countries and 24th out of 37 in education equality results.
National Children’s Commissioner Megan Mitchell said Australia was failing to give all children the best start in life


http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/unicef-australian-children-are-falling-behind-in-health-education-20160414-go6li2.html

But what an indictment of the Libs, the IPA and neoconservatism generally. None of the crap that has and will happen surprised me. Neoconservatism doesn’t work and that is that.
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 16 Apr 2016, 22:28

Bronny lost preselection 51:39.

Abbott’s far right ding dong not elected, a mod from what I hear. One of these soft, fat, balding young chaps {yuck}

Michael Woodhead ‎@mpwoodhead
Real story from #MacKellar: not just Bronnie booted, but her Abbott-anointed right-wing successor rejected #auspol https://twitter.com/_andrewwoodward/sta ... 9446767620

8:22 PM - 16 Apr 2016


Latika M Bourke ✔ ‎@latikambourke
Bronwyn picked up 2 votes between 1st & 3rd rounds meaning Abbott's people voted in favour of a moderate (&MT by proxy) rather than Bishop.

8:31 PM - 16 Apr 2016 · Kensington, London, United Kingdom


The old bitch need not be too downhearted:
Bridget O'Flynn ‎@BridgetOFlynn
Bronnie's weekly pension's going to be $4807.
I'll repeat that for you.
Each week we'll pay her $4807. #fortherestofherlife#Mackellar

9:11 PM - 16 Apr 2016


$5000 a week!

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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 20 Apr 2016, 09:56

Morriscum talking tough on super, outdoing Labor.

Will see how that actually pans out. Neocon core belief is bleed the poor to give more to the rich.
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 20 Apr 2016, 20:08

This is a bit sick (not the blog, the subject of the blog:)

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Read about it here.
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 23 Apr 2016, 11:06

Well, the puff adder is standing so this belongs here:

The original and ugly-to-the-core:
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 23 Apr 2016, 16:19

From the national shit sheet so no link:


Federal election 2016: Jamie Briggs fallout continues as Lib quits

A Liberal Party state council ­member has resigned over a ­refusal by the secretariat to reopen preselect­ions in the blue-ribbon South Australian seat of Mayo, as grassroots discontent lingers over the fallout of Jamie Briggs’s Hong Kong scandal.

Tom Newland, a former president of party branches within Mayo, quit the party this week after the state executive refused to respond to concerns that the Liberals would lose the seat if the former cities minister recontested the next election.

Mr Newland said he would ­support independent senator Nick Xenophon’s party candidate for Mayo, Rebekha Sharkie, at the election expected on July 2.

In a resignation letter to Liberal Party state president Steve Murray, obtained by The Weekend Australian, Mr Newland said that since January 1 he had “lobbied extensivel­y throughout the electorate, within the party and without, and found little support for Jamie Briggs”.

“I refer to our lengthy telephone discussion in early March … there was growing dissatisfaction within the Mayo electorate, and further afield, with the performance of the sitting member (Jamie Briggs),” Mr Newland wrote.

“I saw a risk that the seat would be lost … as a consequence, I perceived­ a need to reopen the preselection in order to find a better­ candidate.

“I had already raised the matter at branch and FEC level. However, I understood that ultimately the matter would require approval of state executive.

“It was your opinion that such approval was unlikely­ — and I have heard no more from you.”

Mr Newland, who had opposed the way Mr Briggs was preselected when he first won the seat in a ­by-election in 2008, after Alexander Downer resigned, said Mr Briggs had “treated the electorate with disdain”.

“The Liberal Party is now past the point of being able to salvage the situation,” he wrote. “(It) will lose the seat — either­ to Labor/Greens or a minor party such as NXT or Family First.”

Senator Xenophon, who has spooked the major parties by running candidates in the Senate and House of Representatives, is most confident of success in Mayo.

The campaign between Mr Briggs and Ms Sharkie, his one-time staffer, has already been a fiery one. Labor has little chance of winning the seat and will likely feed preferences to Ms Sharkie, who is seeking to capitalise on the hit to Mr Briggs’s reputation after he was forced to quit the Turnbull ministry over a disputed incident in a Hong Kong bar involving a female­ public servant.

Ms Sharkie has come under attack­ for her appearance before a farmers’ rights group associated with climate change deniers and One Nation’s Pauline Hanson.

Mr Briggs was re-elected in 2013 with 62.5 per cent of the two-party-preferred vote and holds the seat with a 12.5 per cent margin. But those close to him said yesterday he was “very unlikely to get back”.


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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 23 Apr 2016, 16:21

From the national shit sheet so no link:


Federal election 2016: Jamie Briggs fallout continues as Lib quits

A Liberal Party state council ­member has resigned over a ­refusal by the secretariat to reopen preselect­ions in the blue-ribbon South Australian seat of Mayo, as grassroots discontent lingers over the fallout of Jamie Briggs’s Hong Kong scandal.

Tom Newland, a former president of party branches within Mayo, quit the party this week after the state executive refused to respond to concerns that the Liberals would lose the seat if the former cities minister recontested the next election.

Mr Newland said he would ­support independent senator Nick Xenophon’s party candidate for Mayo, Rebekha Sharkie, at the election expected on July 2.

In a resignation letter to Liberal Party state president Steve Murray, obtained by The Weekend Australian, Mr Newland said that since January 1 he had “lobbied extensivel­y throughout the electorate, within the party and without, and found little support for Jamie Briggs”.

“I refer to our lengthy telephone discussion in early March … there was growing dissatisfaction within the Mayo electorate, and further afield, with the performance of the sitting member (Jamie Briggs),” Mr Newland wrote.

“I saw a risk that the seat would be lost … as a consequence, I perceived­ a need to reopen the preselection in order to find a better­ candidate.

“I had already raised the matter at branch and FEC level. However, I understood that ultimately the matter would require approval of state executive.

“It was your opinion that such approval was unlikely­ — and I have heard no more from you.”

Mr Newland, who had opposed the way Mr Briggs was preselected when he first won the seat in a ­by-election in 2008, after Alexander Downer resigned, said Mr Briggs had “treated the electorate with disdain”.

“The Liberal Party is now past the point of being able to salvage the situation,” he wrote. “(It) will lose the seat — either­ to Labor/Greens or a minor party such as NXT or Family First.”

Senator Xenophon, who has spooked the major parties by running candidates in the Senate and House of Representatives, is most confident of success in Mayo.

The campaign between Mr Briggs and Ms Sharkie, his one-time staffer, has already been a fiery one. Labor has little chance of winning the seat and will likely feed preferences to Ms Sharkie, who is seeking to capitalise on the hit to Mr Briggs’s reputation after he was forced to quit the Turnbull ministry over a disputed incident in a Hong Kong bar involving a female­ public servant.

Ms Sharkie has come under attack­ for her appearance before a farmers’ rights group associated with climate change deniers and One Nation’s Pauline Hanson.

Mr Briggs was re-elected in 2013 with 62.5 per cent of the two-party-preferred vote and holds the seat with a 12.5 per cent margin. But those close to him said yesterday he was “very unlikely to get back”.


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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 23 Apr 2016, 18:10

Libs’ dental scheme is a cutback and a shocker:

Today we found out Mr Turnbull & the Liberals will cut another $1 billion from kids dental care.

That’s another cut to health (in a very long list of cuts) by Mr Turnbull & the Liberals.

This latest cut is particularly nasty – the dental program they are scrapping has provided 1 million Australian children with affordable dental care over the past two years, many of them children whose parents had never previously been able to afford a dentist.

And Mr Turnbull knows the scheme was working! His Government’s own review hailed the program as a success:

“In particular, the Panel noted the success of the CDBS in targeting the oral health of young Australians at an age where preventative health measures can be most effective.”
– Report on the Third Review of The Dental Benefits Act, 2008, page ix

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Will you share this with your friends so they know Mr Turnbull and the Liberals’ true colours when deciding their vote this election?

Now the Liberals plan to replace the scheme with their own – where children will only receive assistance if they attend already overcrowded public dental clinics. This will make countless Australians have to wait even longer to see a dentist.

In its first two budgets the Abbott government cut half a billion dollars out of these same public dental services, causing public dental waiting lists to blow out across the country.

In Tasmania, the wait to attend one of these clinics is nearly three years and there are already 100,000 people waiting for public dental care in NSW.

We must stand up and let the Liberals know this is not on, and make sure people know what’s at stake when they head to the polls in just 70 days.

Thank you for your support,

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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby Cherie » 23 Apr 2016, 22:28

I have heard expressed by a few that Turnbull turned out to be huge dissapointment- no ideas at all in fact- I guess he is calling an election now before he goes down any further - would love to think he doesnt have a chance come July.
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 23 Apr 2016, 23:12

I will start a new Election thread once Budget is in then the actual election in a fresh thread, sticky them all for easy reference.

Polls have TPP 50:50 and 51:49 to Labor. Labor primary is a tad low, “other” a bit high. Mr X maybe, people not decided on Shorten perhaps.
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 23 Apr 2016, 23:17

Coalition 41 41
Labor 36 36
Greens 11 11
Other 12 12

Primary figures from last newspoll, last two polls.


Labor has hit the ground running, has released plenty of policy, Bill has addressed 23 town hall type gatherings. Turnbull has. . .waffled.
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 24 Apr 2016, 23:09

Libs have their scare campaign: Labor will introduce “a housing tax.”

http://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/the-australian-nightmare#.niOM3Llwxx
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby Aussie » 25 Apr 2016, 14:06

How about this for a great exposure of why the Libs are not game to touch negative gearing?

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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 25 Apr 2016, 14:43

Nice. We see how big the scourge of NG has gotten thanks to the little turd Howard.
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Re: Federal Election 2016—issues and leaders

Postby HBS Guy » 26 Apr 2016, 15:13

Labor is the Party of tax and spend says the shambles.

Ummmm tax?
Simon Banks @SimonBanksHB

Tax to GDP has risen every year under the LNP

And their current plan sees it continue to rise
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So what is the shambles doing with all that extra money? Paying down debt?
Simon Banks ‏@SimonBanksHB 6h6 hours ago
Real Solutions: "We will...pay back debt"

Today gross debt is $423.2b

Up $150.2b since the 2013 election


More tax income, more debt, geez they are spending money like mad!
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