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It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby HBS Guy » 04 Jan 2013, 16:43

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I have long thought Demi was a silky terrier/jack russell cross.

The one in the photo looks a bit Australian Terrier about the head but pretty close match to Demi!

For comparison:
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You can tell they are both terriers—look at the front feet, see how they turn out? Every terrier is pigeon toed :jump
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby annielaurie » 04 Jan 2013, 20:28

Very cute, boss! Yeah, they do look alike ..

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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby HBS Guy » 04 Jan 2013, 20:31

The ears on the first dog look more Australian Terrier to me, but who cares?

My first dog was an Australian Terrier—short, stumpy–legged, fluffy. Took care of a rat infestation all by itself. Better at it, I have to admit, than Demi who has killed at least 3.
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby Aussie » 04 Jan 2013, 20:32

Sorry to piss on your parade Monk.....but......this is pigeon toed:

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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby HBS Guy » 04 Jan 2013, 20:35

Is it? OK. So what is the opposite of pigeon toed?
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby HBS Guy » 04 Jan 2013, 20:53

Out towing or bow leggedness. There you go, all terriers are bowlegged
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby Aussie » 04 Jan 2013, 20:59

HBS Guy wrote:Out towing or bow leggedness. There you go, all terriers are bowlegged


The bloke on the left is bowlegged:

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This bloke has splayed paws:

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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby HBS Guy » 04 Jan 2013, 21:12

Yeah—quick search and doctors seem to use term bowlegged.

Doesn’t matter what term, splay pawed sounds good. :bgrin
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby annielaurie » 04 Jan 2013, 22:11

Oh that redheaded one is adorable! Looks like a toy!

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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby PuffyTMD » 06 Jan 2013, 10:31

tenterfield terriers are supposed to have straight paws, but turned out paws are common.
http://www.traffordphotos.net/gallery/R ... 20BOB.html
My pedigree tenter, Trafford, has one paw slightly turned out. One of his sons (Stamp) has feet so turned out he looks like he is paddling when he walks.
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby PuffyTMD » 06 Jan 2013, 10:32

Stamp is the one in my gravatr with the patches.
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby HBS Guy » 06 Jan 2013, 10:34

Tenterfields look like great little dogs but my next dog will be something bigger, a retired racing greyhound perhaps or a labrador or, more likely, a mutt the size of a lab. I like mutts.
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby HBS Guy » 06 Jan 2013, 10:35

Glad you didn’t have the tails docked, barbaric practice!

Why breed out splay claws? It is a terrier trait after all!
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby PuffyTMD » 06 Jan 2013, 10:43

this a better front on photo of tenterfield. http://www.gumhavenkennels.com/Mira.htm

Also on the site are cute puppy pix, :bgrin I know this breeder. Her dogs are stunningand adorable. (to me anyway) :smitten
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby HBS Guy » 06 Jan 2013, 10:50

hahah but, yeah, the front paws are pretty straight. If I don’t get a larger dog I reckon a Jack Russell will be good.

Will take Demi to the beach after 7.00, bit of walking (walking on the beach doesn’t seem to make my hip hurt) then throwing the ball a few times incl throwing it into the sea. She loves swimming—but hates getting rinsed off when we get back up to the street :jump
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby PuffyTMD » 06 Jan 2013, 11:00

I campaigned for banning tail docking. I remember a few years ago rocking up at Penny Wong's office. I was walking past and just dropped in off the street.. I asked if anything could be done about tail-docking. The office person was polite and said she would pass it on. i didn't who PW was back then.

Tenterfield Terriers can carry a short-tail gene and they can be tested to see if the short tail is a natural bob or an illegal dock. So if you see a short tail one it is most likely a natural bobtail. I would prefer that they bred out natural bobtails instead of preferencing them. I think consumer demand will preference long tails. I hope so, dogs tails with their tails.

I think the straight feet are from the whippet/italian greyhound/greyhound in the breed from waaaay back, probably to add speed. They have legs and feet more like hounds than terriers and the body is light and springy.

I suppose they reckoned Australian rats were faster.

Rodents will always be bigger under a Coalition government.

My tenterfield will always be faster than Coalition rodents. :bike
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby HBS Guy » 06 Jan 2013, 11:02

Ahhh Italian greyhound! Those are nice dogs—but I am too much of a wreck to give them the exercise they need, unless hip operation later this year goes really well—wish they would hurry up the stem cell treatments, the money they would save on Medicare!
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby PuffyTMD » 06 Jan 2013, 11:16

All the best for the op.
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby mantra » 07 Jan 2013, 07:52

HBS Guy wrote:Glad you didn’t have the tails docked, barbaric practice!

Why breed out splay claws? It is a terrier trait after all!


I've only seen badly splayed feet in Corgis. It's not just the claws which are splayed - but the feet also. It looks uncomfortable/painful as though they have weak little ankles which have to carry too much weight. I haven't noticed it in terriers possibly because they're usually slim dogs under all that hair and normally proportioned.
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby HBS Guy » 07 Jan 2013, 07:57

We are talking about the front paws being slightly splayed in terriers (well, except the tenterfield as we just saw.) It is one of the defining traits of the terrier group, not a disease or anything like that.
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby mantra » 07 Jan 2013, 08:07

Some of the terriers have splayed claws - as opposed to splayed feet. Is it possible that Demi, as well as having terrier in her, might also have a splash of Corgi also? Look at the feet.

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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby HBS Guy » 07 Jan 2013, 08:19

No, look at the OP you see two terriers both with the slightly splayed front paws that is a Terrier trait. I mean, Demi might have contibrutions from any number of breeds—she was a stray and I am not going to pay for genetic analysis :bgrin

Look at the terrier you posted, its front paws are slightly splayed.
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby mantra » 07 Jan 2013, 08:37

Both those pics are of Corgis Monk. Demi has the feet of the first and the coat of the second, but as you say - it's hard to tell what these little mixed breeds are made up of. The animal shelters get it wrong all the time. I bought a "fox terrier" which turned out to be a kelpie/cattle dog and another terrier earlier which turned out to be a wolfhound.
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby HBS Guy » 07 Jan 2013, 08:42

another terrier earlier which turned out to be a wolfhound.


Oh wow!


Maybe corgis contributed to the terrier breed way back when?
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Re: It isn’t Demi, but nearly

Postby mantra » 07 Jan 2013, 08:47

Corgis originated from Australian cattle dogs aka Australian shepherds. They were once used as sheep dogs - so they have an amazing amount of energy considering they've got such little legs.
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