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The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 05 Feb 2012, 14:58

Our media is crap, and is in trouble. To me those two things seem to be cause and effect. The proprietors and those we laughingly call journalists seem to think they are unrelated.

Before I go on I exclude biased fuckwits calling themselves “commentators” like Andrew Bolt and Piers Akerman. They may have been journalists but are not now. Bolt produced a chart of temperature increases with a “smoothed average line” based on some weird long interval, 23 years or some such—in any case a period used for smoothing that didn’t make sense BUT left the line heading downwards right in the current year—the guy owning the crank denialist site must have sat there with his spreadsheet and tried 10 years, 11 years. . .23 years :jump That this junk non–science appears in a major daily (or its website) just shows the press is fucked.

I say proprietors appear to think their crap product is not the cause of their media companies/conglom-erates being in trouble is that they hire crap journalists. Michelle Grattan is still working for the Age but just writes pap (typically like “Libs have stuffed Labor, or maybe its the other way around or maybe neither have done anything to the other”) which just puts people off. Fairfax have also fired tons of subeditors, the heart of any news organisation.

A lot of emphasis is on dead tree media moving online, proprietors talking of their content. If the content is crap tho, does it really matter what format it is in? If content is important you need good journos and subbies! I remember reading the Australian, Age, quality press in those days. They had LONG articles, articles of over a broadsheet page! Now you get a column, mostly of claptrap, and that’s it!

The ABC “their ABC” is dreadful. ABC24 is sucking money out of other parts of the ABC so on ABC 1 you just get repeats of repeats of repeats and they are little more than “Murdoch lite.” The 7.30 report is such crap these days, Uhlman is not a journalist’s arsehole. His “interviews” of Abbott are so soft, so obviously rehearsed and edited they are valueless.

Blogs like PB, Possum provide the analysis I look for. Bilbo provides a summary and analysis without agenda, can’t be found elsewhere these days. The Guardian, the BBC, Al Jazeera and (because of the issue of austerity) the Irish Times for world news and decent coverage/analysis. Larvatus Prodeo used to be my fave blog but they have gone way downhill—I jeered that on a post on recovery in Labor vote that they and their commenters had not mentioned the brave, clever, determined lady that made that possible, PM Gillard. One long post and over 20 comments and no one had mentioned Gillard! So, no thanks, if I wanted to read crap I would get the national shit sheet!

Even the electronic media—radio, TV and commercial media websites—are not doing well. The London Times website and paper apparently are not making money (taking it online apparently was a disaster) and are for the chop as soon as ‘Rupe is in that linotype in the sky.

Are there any decent journos in Australia? Some. Paul Bongiorno at 10, Steve Cannane at the ABC, even Leigh Sales and Tony Jones on a good day (tho I have stopped watching QandA) Laurie Oaks even, sometimes some of the Fairfax journos, George Megalogenis for economics. Fucking pitiful, eh, 6 halfway decent journos in all of Australia across all media? Disgraceful!

If you too are sick of crap media we have a thread “Useful Political links” http://www.polanimal.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=348 where there are links to all sorts of media, from the Courier Mail to Pravda! Also there are a lot of links to blogs of all kinds that provide analysis!

The best analysis is from non–commercial bloggers! WTF? Journalists have access to VAST resources, libraries from nearly every paper in the fucking world and they get beaten by people just setting up a blog? And you want to tell me the Australian media isn’t sick?

I haven’t covered the shockjocks, just yobbos screeching out, like a parrot (ha!) what they are told to screech. Just more Andrew Bolts, just without his veneer of respectability, of professionalism and that is as much as I can be fucked talking about them.

Now there are some rays of hope. http://inside.org.au/ presents decent size articles and, from tomorrow,http://www.theglobalmail.org starts—stay tuned for that.

If you are at all interested in the media Mr Denmore’s “The failed estate” is a must–read! Mr Denmore is a former journo. thefailedestate.blogspot.com/

Tomorrow I will cover the Global Mail and put some more links in the links thread. BBC, Guardian, Al Jazeera are head and shoulders above other media outlets in MNSHO while Irish Times, Pravda, India Times and http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/ round up the errrrr roundup of media.
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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 05 Feb 2012, 20:32

How the IPA pushed confirmation bias to those not inclined to think about it because they have decided it is a matter of left v right:

http://www.desmogblog.com/study-tracks- ... think-tank

JoNova is also at her astroturfing best, publishing rubbish that her devotees lovingly lap up, tho it is the sheerest shite.
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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 06 Feb 2012, 15:04

Mattus replied to the copy of this I posted over there:

http://ozpolitic.com/polanimal/viewtopi ... 181#p91422
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Re: The media is crap

Postby Lefty » 06 Feb 2012, 21:05

As former journalist blogger "Mr Denmore" said to me amid the screeching mass-hysteria over the insulation programme: "it isn't news - it's theatre"
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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 06 Feb 2012, 21:09

Yup, sounds right. But the script is being hurriedly rewritten as Labor support recovers. At present 53:47 in latest Nielsen, I reckon it is closer to say 52:48 as Nielsen has a definite Lib bias. That is a good position to be in now, that is an election–winning position!

Meantime, the Libs have no policies, still have like $120Bn black hole and must be starting to have “Oh shit. . .” moments.
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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 07 Feb 2012, 07:34

Anyone watch QandA last night? The panel was way stacked with rightwing dolts. Only noticeable thing I saw was Hockey looking most unhappy and putting in a dismal, inept performance. Guess he had seen the nielsen figures :bgrin
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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Feb 2012, 12:36

Andrew Elder is saying something similar to me:

http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2012 ... adows.html

But with special reference to political reporting.

Political reporting often is pointless—talking about effect without cause.
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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 19 Feb 2012, 15:40

Andrew Elder takes on the Canberra Press pack:

http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2012 ... ieves.html
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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 21 Feb 2012, 11:08

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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 22 Feb 2012, 16:03

The media IS crap and their cherished Ruddstoration is over before it really began.

Caucus does not like Rudd, Cabinet and the outer Ministry loathes the micromanager who never makes a decision.
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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 28 Feb 2012, 09:42

This is how crap our media, incl especially the ABC is, look at this headline:

Gillard won't rule out spill payback


Won’t rule out payback—this is on the fucking ABC News front page FFS!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-28/g ... ck/3856578

On the video in the link so–called journalist Sabra Lane asks and repeats loaded questions. “Gotcha journalism” like this makes me sick. So much more could have been asked.

This is the guts of the interview:

The Prime Minister has refused to rule out punishing her detractors.

"I made it clear yesterday that I'll announce the reshuffle in my own time and I'm not going to be speculating on it before I announce it," she told ABC Radio's AM program.

"I will judge my team on the way I've said I'm going to judge it - on merit and the capacity to take the fight up to the other side of politics.

"That's what will drive my decision."


I DID love how Gillard kept on laying out what Labor had done and was still doing repeatedly. Saying you will chose who would do what on merit DOES rule out designing a reshuffle on retribution grounds!

For fucks sake, disband the useless ABC and add the money to the education budget!
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Re: The media is crap

Postby Lefty » 28 Feb 2012, 20:40

The MSM IS fucking crap, in the crappiest sense of the word. They're no there to inform, they're there to entertain - it's not news, it's theatre.
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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 05 Mar 2012, 11:26

FRIDAY, MARCH 2, 2012

The 'Certainty' Myth
A sub-narrative amid the media thumbsucking about the future of the Australian Labor Party after the leadership spill has been the ritual calls from business leaders for the removal of "uncertainty" - the idea being that the economy has ground to a standstill as the egos exchange handbags in Canberra.

"Business groups have welcomed (the resolution of the) leadership ballot, saying having Julia Gillard remain prime minister delivers certainty to small business," one article said, quoting the small business council. Echoing that view was big business council boss Graham Bradley, who told The Australian, that business needed, yes, "certainty" and an end to the Labor feud.

And on and on it went, as a cavalcade of CEOs, pinstriped bankers, cigar-chomping miners and sundry thinktankers lined up to plead that the very wheels of capitalism were at risk of falling off if Kevin and Julia did not bury the hatchet in one or the other's head as of yesterday.

The reflex approach of journalists in reporting the claims of big and small business is to start from the assumption that everything they say is true and noble and civic minded. No-one ever suspects that they have anything else in mind than the good of the general community. Certainty? Why yes, sir, it is quite unfair that you should ever have to live without your every endeavour being greased by the wheels of the state.

The first assumption here, of course, is that democracy is all fine and dandy, but the big end of town really does prefer that the real red-in-tooth-and-claw nature of politics not get in the way of their making money. And if politicians' heads are to be cracked it is preferable that the business council or minerals council be the ones doing the cracking.

The second assumption is that the desire for 'certainty' is solely the preserve of capitalists. Yet in the past 30 years, wage and salary slaves have had to wear more and more risk themselves - in the form of reduced employment conditions, the impact of hugely volatile markets on their retirement savings , the gradual move to 'user pays' in health care and the slow destruction of public education while the rich are subsidised by the state into private schools. But that uncertainty is OK, it seems, because it is about imposing the discipline of 'the market' to every part of the wider public's lives.

So we witness the utter hypocrisy of capitalists preaching the need for 'certainty' for themselves while telling everyone else to suck up the market forces. Yet those same "industry leaders" go crawling to the government for taxpayer bailouts when their businesses find market forces too much to bear. They privatise their profits and socialise their losses without a hint of embarrassment.

So confronted with this special pleading from business, journalists could do the public a favour by exercising the scepticism that they pride themselves on when reporting the vainglorious utterances of politicians. They might also like to test business' claims against what is actually going on in the financial markets.

For instance, the Australian dollar - commonly seen as the canary in the coal mine of global risk sentiment - has gained 5 per cent against the US dollar this year and throughout the Gillard-Rudd stoush has traded between $US1.06 and $1.08, near the top of its recent range. It also has approached six month highs against the yen and has continued its ascent even as our terms of trade begin to decline.

Indeed, since Gillard came to office in June, 2010, the Australian dollar has climbed 23 per cent against its US counterpart, the second strongest performance out of 31 currencies tracked by Bloomberg. So if the currency is a measure of the perceived health of the Australian economy, the "uncertainty" of the Labor ructions these past 18 months is clearly not an influence.

Also bear in mind that the reason the Australian dollar is so strong is the unprecedented foreign demand for Australian government bonds, which are among the last 'AAA'-rated issues left in the world. According to Bloomberg, Aussie government bonds have returned 40 per cent for foreign buyers since Gillard took over. At the same time, the cost to insure our government debt - as measured by credit default swaps - has hit six month lows this week.

This is telling you that big money investors - portfolio managers with billions at stake - were not spooked in the slightest by the catfight in Canberra. In other words, people running bond portfolios out of London, Tokyo or New York knew that whoever won the ballot, the macro policy settings would not change.

So we have local business leaders and rent-seekers running around screaming the sky is about to fall in - and journalists blandly reporting their whining - while big international capitalists just see a remarkably stable and well managed safe haven offering attractive bond yields of around 4 per cent and an appreciating currency.

The irony is that part of the reason Gillard has been in trouble in the polls has been the damage that the strong currency is doing to just about every industry outside a supercharged resource sector. If you recall, Labor did have a plan to deal with that imbalance. It was called the RSPT. But then business pleaded for certainty.....


http://thefailedestate.blogspot.com.au/ ... -myth.html

OK that is the whole article I copied. It shows so clearly how crap the press is here!
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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Mar 2012, 08:49

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-08/g ... an/3877968

Former NSW Chief Justice and Whitlam advisor James Spigelman has been confirmed as the new Chairman of the ABC.

Ms Gillard says Mr Spigelman has served the legal profession for 40 years and has a fierce passion for the arts and will be an exemplary leader of the ABC.

"He will lead the ABC at a time when the challenges and opportunities facing our national broadcaster have never been greater," she said in a statement.

"He brings a wealth of experience in the arts and culture and will build on the work of the previous chair, Maurice Newman AC, to ensure that the ABC remains at the forefront of the media in Australia."


Maurice Newman was a fucking idiot! He and Scott are responsible for a dreadful slide in quality in ABC in all areas!

Spigelman will have to manufacture a fight with CEO Scott so that fuckwit, obsessed with ratings (ratings! WTF? ABC is about one thing, quality par excellence FFS!) resigns!
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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Mar 2012, 12:07

Facing Mr Spigelman will be a long list of issues, the top of which is how the ABC remains relevant in a changing media landscape and its response to the government’s review on convergence in the media.

He will also have to negotiate another round of triennial funding and ask for more money as the corporation expands its reach with new channels and appears on more digital devices.

The appointment completes a circle in a career that began with the then nascent area of communications in the Whitlam government.

Mr Spigelman’s long association with Labor – he was an adviser to Gough Whitlam and in 1975 was appointed secretary to the first department of the media – will inevitably attract some accusations that he is a political appointee, a charge often levelled at his predecessor, who was a close friend of John Howard.

Mr Spigelman dropped a heavy hint that he was heading for the role at a breakfast talk a fortnight ago. He was asked what he thought about the corporation moving into new genres. ”That’s also something I don’t have an informed opinion about but I’m looking forward to developing one,” he replied.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political ... z1oSyR8HGs
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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Mar 2012, 16:07

Here is how the ABC is the crappiest of the crap media around:

On Lateline the other report, the one that backs Smithy, was mentioned but not the bits that fully supported Smith.

Also:
Tony Jones and Martin Indyk on Lateline
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WOW What an impartial expert Indyk is !!!

A passionate zionist and former US Ambassador to israel( curious that Israel will only except a Jewish person as it’s Ambassador from the USA ..thus giving then an inside view of what goes on inside the US Embassy at all times
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Indyk was an Australian then a US citizen and also an Israeli and Jones was asking his opinion on the conflict with Iran ! WOW
He mouthed all the same lies as Netanyahu(and as Merkel famously was heard to say .”.he\\Netanyahu is a terible liar”)
So why doesn’t the ABC try to get some one impartial l…young Anthony Lowenstein who is Jewish but a critic of Israel and it’s rabid right-wing leaders.would be good.but even Indyk who is all for bombing Iran had to admit that the consequences would be dire,

,,much worse than Iraq with a disaster for the world economy as an outcome… great policies !
No wonder Obama is not going along with Israel’s desire for war/war/war
Talk about “their ” ABC
Jones is pathetic


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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 18 Mar 2012, 14:41

Finklestein enquiry recommended a strong, govt owned, media council. Its reach would even extend to various political boards/forums/blogs. Food for thought by some.
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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 25 Mar 2012, 13:51

Concera Vota ‏ @conceravota
ABC’s Simkin just misrepresented what happened in Parlt. today. Quelle Surprise @ABCMarkScott



ruawake says:
March 20, 2012 at 4:15 pm
ABC’s Simkin just misrepresented what happened in Parlt. today

Why is this unusual, he does it almost every day.


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Re: The media is crap

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Aug 2014, 21:27

http://failedestate.com/approved-targets-list/

Read the comment by Andrew Elder too.
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