pinkeye wrote: ↑
18 May 2020, 00:17
I mention that only the tiniest fraction of the population has died from this disease, and you ignored it. I mention that the size of the pores in the best masks, are 3 times larger than the largest virus, and you ignored it. I pointed out the morbidity and fatality rates of the virus(compared to the total population), and you ignored it. I provided historical evidence of the past 5 pandemics and other flu-like viruses, where we never closed down the economy and ended civil liberties, and you didn't even a raised eyebrow. I mentioned the recovery rates between age demographics, and you ignored it. I mentioned what a virus is, how it works, and how that it is the body's response that kills you(not the virus), and you also ignored it. Now we are heading towards a surveillance state. We have already told the government that we are sheep, so why not let the government tend to its flock? I really hope that one day you will realize, that it is WE who are the government, NOT the people we hire(elect) to represent us. Their actions reflect on who WE are, NOT on who they are.
NOW ,, SAYS pinkeye
Like I have responded to you previously, we get the government we deserve. No doubt you missed it, because your expectations don't allow you the time... your desire to dominate the discussion and not listen means you just keep on repeating yourself. I read ALL that above, MULTIPLE REPEATS and now and then may have responded, BUT all you do is attack. You just need to understand steamrolling over everything anyone says with scorn and ridicule, will garner the same response. We just don't have that BURNING DESIRE to be agreed with on EVERYTHING, like you do.
Because I haven't agreed with say half of your interpretation, whilst agreeing with the rest. Nope you are not listening.. you're just have some sort of brain obsession ..
So tell me .. do you ONLY WANT TO HEAR agreement.? You only expect YES replies.?
WHY don't you understand.
Lets just take a trip down memory lane, and peruse some of your more memorable and uninformative replies. The dumbest I have ever heard was,
"But you think, better to die and pass on herd immunity
than to submit to health measures that can and will and are saving lives.? Be my guest. off you go.".
Even a 1st year science student knows that you can't pass shit onto anybody, if you're dead
. That it is only the survivors who can pass on their acquired antibodies onto their offspring. NOT THE DEAD!! Our bodies have been developing antibodies against all types of microorganisms, since the dawn of all life. This is how we, and our bodies evolve naturally. Some will die, but many won't. This is how Evolution works. Now lets look at some of your other less than germane comments;
"Yeah Shellandsand1956.. I'll tread on your toes, and probably offend as often as I feel the urge to post a reply. Hey, apologies in advance."
"Your comments are irrelevant
to what is happening.. Umm your context is erroneous
in that we are only about 1 month in to this.".
"Your basis .. your premise... is untenable, no matter how many stats you through around.. BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS.!!".
" I doubt Shellandsand1956 is capable of any actual post that isn't borrowed from somewhere else.".
" You are DEFINITELY one of those dickheads on the beach with their mates. Probably have had friends around to for a bit of a laugh. Ha ha ha.".
"I HAVE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE. YOU AND DDH SHOULD GET ON WELL.".
"As for all your posts.? don't waste your time with all this shit.. it is not helpful, it isn't worth wasting time reading it.. BECAUSE heard it all before.".
"From your lack of response to my charge that you are one of the dickheads on the Beach.... one can assume I am correct.".
"I have no intention of trying to refute your figures.. you are likely quite correct. But statistics don't tell the whole story. Not those statistics anyway.".
"The name of your THREAD...……. THE TRUTH ABOUT THE CORONAVIRUS...is a joke title topic surely..?".
"This virus is a real test of human beings, as a species. A challenge we need to face.".
"I note you still fail to address my conclusion that you are breaching the rules, swimming and sunning yourself in the sun.".
"In order to claim this absolute truth that only YOU know , you MUST BE a top-of-the-range epidemiologist, bacteriologist, and micro- biologist.".
"Perhaps a little less catastrophising and staying on topic would be good."(That is what the government has been doing, not me).
"I find your whole approach aggressive and deserving of any shit that gets thrown your way.".
"You are a fuckwit.".
"Eating wild meat is simply too dangerous to allow. Chinese will eat anything, we know that...".
And, these were the useless, unsupported, unexplained, unrelated, and irrelevant comments from only the first 5 pages. Should I continue on, with the next 5 pages? Unverifiable biased assumptions, insults, and misrepresentations, based on indoctrinated beliefs and sound bites, are NOT considered relevant responses. Name just one comment that actually explains or supports, why my interpretation of the facts are irrelevant or erroneous? Nothing! Name any comment that actually presents a case that actually supports your own interpretation of the facts? Nothing! Other than the usual, "it could or might happen here.", bullying, appeals to authority, or committing more fallacies. What is tragic, is that this information is freely available to anyone. It is not MY facts. As you have said, you simply just don't want to know. Ignorance really is bliss for people like you.
Does the government put all the facts they vet into perspective? NO! Do they tell you about what percentage of the population is really infected, have died, or why masks are useless against a virus? NO! Do they explain who are the most at risk AND WHY? Do they explain how difficult it is to ascertain the exact cause of death of the elderly, who have died in nursing/respite homes? NO! Do they explain what a vaccine is, what it does, how it is made, or where it come from? NO! Do you really think that a vaccine will prevent people from catching the virus? Do they explain that the only thing that health professional can do, is treat the symptoms of the virus? Not the virus itself. The rest is just placebo and theatrics. Do the government try to explain restrictions, quarantines, loss of liberties, jobs, and businesses, to save 99.8% of the population, as the hard decisions THEY had to make? Of course! Do the government explain why historically, that these actions were never used during the any other major public health crisis(cancer, smoking, alcohol, or other flu and flu-like pandemics)? Of course not.
So, NO! Not because I say so, but because the facts say so. Telling me to expand my thinking, without telling me why, is just a self-serving and useless exercise in cynical egoism. I'm not interested in if I'm right. I'm more interested in if I'm wrong. Have you even thought about the implications, if you are wrong? Should we NOT be worried that this virus could kill us all, if the government does nothing to protect us? Should we all NOT want to be tracked for our own protection and safety? Should we all NOT trust whatever the government tells us, because they smart, and we stupid? Am I just being selfish by complaining about losing my freedoms, jobs, and liberties, in spite of what the facts are telling me? Should I NOT be worried about what actions the government might take, during the next crisis? That is the real purpose of this thread. I was hoping to be enlightened. Not ridiculed and insulted.