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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby HBS Guy » 12 Feb 2020, 11:22

The whole thread.


We have warmed 1.2°C since 1880, 0.8°C of that since 1970. In that time the milankovitch cycle and since the 1980s the slightly quiet sun and some anthropogenic aerosols have been cooling us YET WE WARMED! We warmed because of our emissions of CO2 as shown in IR spectra measured on satellites:
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby chris155au » 12 Feb 2020, 16:06

HBS Guy wrote:The whole thread.


We have warmed 1.2°C since 1880, 0.8°C of that since 1970. In that time the milankovitch cycle and since the 1980s the slightly quiet sun and some anthropogenic aerosols have been cooling us YET WE WARMED! We warmed because of our emissions of CO2 as shown in IR spectra measured on satellites:


You STILL haven't explained why the IPCC has to underplay the significance of AGW simply because in your mind, every politician in the world is a lawyer. You CONTINUE to dodge!
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby Chuck » 12 Feb 2020, 18:40

Global carbon dioxide emissions from the energy sector plateaued in 2019, defying widespread expectations that they would continue to rise, according to a Feb. 11 report by the International Energy Agency (IEA).

Emissions fell sharply in some advanced economies, including the U.S. and the E.U., offsetting increases in developing countries and emerging markets, the IEA said. Overall emissions stood at 33 billion metric tons last year — roughly the same amount as in 2018, raising hopes that emissions may have peaked after two years of increases.
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby HBS Guy » 12 Feb 2020, 19:07

chris155au wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:The whole thread.


We have warmed 1.2°C since 1880, 0.8°C of that since 1970. In that time the milankovitch cycle and since the 1980s the slightly quiet sun and some anthropogenic aerosols have been cooling us YET WE WARMED! We warmed because of our emissions of CO2 as shown in IR spectra measured on satellites:


You STILL haven't explained why the IPCC has to underplay the significance of AGW simply because in your mind, every politician in the world is a lawyer. You CONTINUE to dodge!

Oh FFS!

Lawyers are pisspoor with advanced maths.
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby chris155au » 13 Feb 2020, 14:36

HBS Guy wrote:
chris155au wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:The whole thread.


We have warmed 1.2°C since 1880, 0.8°C of that since 1970. In that time the milankovitch cycle and since the 1980s the slightly quiet sun and some anthropogenic aerosols have been cooling us YET WE WARMED! We warmed because of our emissions of CO2 as shown in IR spectra measured on satellites:


You STILL haven't explained why the IPCC has to underplay the significance of AGW simply because in your mind, every politician in the world is a lawyer. You CONTINUE to dodge!

Oh FFS!

Lawyers are pisspoor with advanced maths.


So advanced maths is required in order to understand: "AGW is responsible for 100% for global warming?" You're making absolutely no sense.
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby HBS Guy » 13 Feb 2020, 17:07

The report was talking about 5sigma etc.

There is a great likelyhood all the figures are correct, but a measurement of uncertainty needs to be given. Not in statistical terms but in a way politicians can understand.
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby chris155au » 13 Feb 2020, 17:15

HBS Guy wrote:The report was talking about 5sigma etc.

There is a great likelyhood all the figures are correct, but a measurement of uncertainty needs to be given. Not in statistical terms but in a way politicians can understand.


I'm not saying that the figures can't be said to be accurate, I'm saying that the figures only show that it is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century. Do you not agree with that?
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby hatty » 14 Feb 2020, 07:50

HBS Guy wrote:The report was talking about 5sigma etc.

There is a great likelyhood all the figures are correct, but a measurement of uncertainty needs to be given. Not in statistical terms but in a way politicians can understand.


as if the politicians give a fuck...... their snouts are just to deep in the trough..... when they are not all patting themselves on the back as they get richer.

the rest of us and they also shall be gone soon enough because of their actions....... inactions

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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby chris155au » 17 Feb 2020, 17:01

chris155au wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:The report was talking about 5sigma etc.

There is a great likelyhood all the figures are correct, but a measurement of uncertainty needs to be given. Not in statistical terms but in a way politicians can understand.


I'm not saying that the figures can't be said to be accurate, I'm saying that the figures only show that it is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century. Do you not agree with that?


Nothing HBS Guy?
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby HBS Guy » 17 Feb 2020, 19:05

That is how scientists report results. Look up confidence testing, Type 1 & Type 2 errors etc.
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby chris155au » 18 Feb 2020, 18:56

HBS Guy wrote:That is how scientists report results. Look up confidence testing, Type 1 & Type 2 errors etc.

Again, I'm not saying that the figures can't be said to be accurate, I'm saying that the figures only show that it is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century. Do you not agree with that?
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby HBS Guy » 18 Feb 2020, 19:03

FFS, is there any point to this?
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby pinkeye » 19 Feb 2020, 01:11

chris155au wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:That is how scientists report results. Look up confidence testing, Type 1 & Type 2 errors etc.

Again, I'm not saying that the figures can't be said to be accurate, I'm saying that the figures only show that it is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century. Do you not agree with that?


It is quite clear.
Of course , in response to your question to HBS Guy.

I can say that with confidence.

I can't believe I'm actually replying to you Chris.. I'd given up on this topic pages ago. :roll I have NOT read the intervening posts, as I am well aware of your torturous style. Why bother.? :roll
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby HBS Guy » 19 Feb 2020, 08:31

Dunno, answered his quesetion pages back, why is it still going?

Has he looked up statistics, confidence intervals an d the like? Of course not.
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby chris155au » 19 Feb 2020, 16:35

pinkeye wrote:
chris155au wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:That is how scientists report results. Look up confidence testing, Type 1 & Type 2 errors etc.

Again, I'm not saying that the figures can't be said to be accurate, I'm saying that the figures only show that it is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century. Do you not agree with that?


It is quite clear.
Of course , in response to your question to HBS Guy.

I can say that with confidence.


Are you saying that it is quite clear that the figures only show that it is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century? If so, then we are in RARE agreement!
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby chris155au » 19 Feb 2020, 16:36

HBS Guy wrote:FFS, is there any point to this?


Only in order to find out if you actually agree with what the IPCC says. It seems not.
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby HBS Guy » 19 Feb 2020, 17:13

How the simple fuck do you get that out of my replies to your tedious as fuck, meaningless questions?
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby chris155au » 19 Feb 2020, 18:34

HBS Guy wrote:How the simple fuck do you get that out of my replies to your tedious as fuck, meaningless questions?

Because you STILL have not said that you agree with the IPCC that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby HBS Guy » 20 Feb 2020, 09:43

Of course I agree with their assessment.
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby chris155au » 20 Feb 2020, 17:19

HBS Guy wrote:Of course I agree with their assessment.

This conflicts with what you said previously, which is that human influence has been the ONLY cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century.
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby HBS Guy » 20 Feb 2020, 17:42

It has, and anthropogenic warming is more than the 1.2°C warming since 1880 since the Milankovitch forcing and, since the 1980s, the quiet sun plus some anthropogenic aerosols are cooling the earth so anthropogenic warming has warmed more than the 1.2°C warming we have detected.
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby chris155au » 20 Feb 2020, 18:13

HBS Guy wrote:It has, and anthropogenic warming is more than the 1.2°C warming since 1880 since the Milankovitch forcing and, since the 1980s, the quiet sun plus some anthropogenic aerosols are cooling the earth so anthropogenic warming has warmed more than the 1.2°C warming we have detected.


Yes, and the IPCC says that human influence is the DOMINANT cause, not the ONLY cause. So you DO disagree with the IPCC.
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby HBS Guy » 20 Feb 2020, 18:17

AGW is the dominant, even sole cause, of the 1.2°C warming since 1880. It has warmed more than that but 2 natural and one anthropogenic factors are cooling the earth.
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Re: Dishonest HACK Richard Di Natale LIES about climate chan

Postby HBS Guy » 20 Feb 2020, 18:19

Warming despite Milankovitch Cycle declining:
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