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South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby mothra » 07 Jul 2019, 00:29

South Australia to become first state to ban plastic items including straws, Government says

A range of single-use plastics including straws and cutlery is set to be banned in South Australia — but that could be just the tip of the iceberg, with items including takeaway coffee cups and plastic bags also in the firing line.

The SA Government said it intended to draft legislation later this year banning certain single-use plastic products, with the intention of introducing it to Parliament in 2020.

It follows a six-week consultation period earlier this year which garnered more than 3,500 responses, with an overwhelming majority in favour of "government intervention", Environment Minister David Speirs said.

Mr Speirs said the ban would make South Australia the first state in the nation to outlaw plastic straws and drink stirrers.

"At first, we will look at products including plastic straws, cutlery and stirrers, with items such as takeaway polystyrene containers and cups next," he said.

The Government said a pilot program to establish "plastic-free precincts" would help to refine the policy, with the longer-term intention of phasing out items including polystyrene coffee and soup cups.

Public consciousness about the environmental impacts of plastics has been growing in recent years, and has been highlighted by photos showing seabirds which died from consuming plastic.

It has been estimated that Australians use 10 million straws every day although that figure has been contested.

As part of its approach, the Government said it intended to establish a taskforce comprised of industry representatives to "ensure that impacts are mitigated" and that "appropriate time" is given for businesses to transition.

More plastic than fish by 2050, document warns

A policy document entitled Turning the Tide on Single-use Plastic Products, which was released today, sets out the approach and outlines the scale of the environmental problem.

"The majority of plastics are produced from fossil fuels, representing around 6 per cent of global oil consumption. This is equivalent to the global aviation sector," it says.

"At least 8 million tonnes of plastics end up in the ocean each year.

"This is equivalent to dumping the contents of a garbage truck each minute and if current trends continue, by 2050 there will be more plastics in the ocean than fish."

Non-biodegradable single-use plastic bags have been banned at South Australian supermarket checkouts for about a decade, with consumers charged a small amount for reusable bags.

But the Government has flagged an intention to tighten regulations to ensure fewer end up in landfill, rivers and oceans.

"There is strong support from respondents for all checkout and produce bags to be made from compostable materials and to extend South Australia's plastic bag legislation to include thicker bags," it said.

Last year, new scientific findings showed the Great Pacific Garbage Patch contained up to 16 times more waste than previously thought and covered a 1.6-million-square-kilometre area — almost the same size as Queensland.

Green Industries SA estimates South Australians use 255 million straws per year and up to 210 million disposable coffee cups annually.

Adelaide City Council voted in July to ban straws at council-run events and those in the Adelaide Parklands, after the issue was highlighted last year by the ABC's War On Waste program and its Straw No More campaign.

The council ran a grant scheme to encourage cafe owners to use compostable takeaway coffee cups with limited success.

Single-use plastic bans have been proposed or implemented overseas, including in Europe and California.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-06/south-australia-plan-to-ban-single-use-plastic-items/11284916?fbclid=IwAR21Ena1wddbYuN5dqfE_EQpZ7sEZjNRxaj-XADtDofZAe2NIbpj49PRb0M
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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby pinkeye » 07 Jul 2019, 01:03

How good is that.? Everyone should stop using all plastics. Nothing wrong with cardboard, paper.. etc to replace it.

It should ALL be abolished.
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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby DonDeeHippy » 07 Jul 2019, 05:57

my partner likes using a straw and found some stainless steel ones with a little cleaning brush , she keeps one in her purse for when we go out... For her it's a hatred of all things plastic, doesn't like the idea of them leaching out chemicals.... :purple
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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby Chuck » 07 Jul 2019, 22:17

[quote="mothra"]Non-biodegradable single-use plastic bags have been banned at South Australian supermarket checkouts for about a decade, with consumers charged a small amount for reusable bags.

What a con job by the business community to increase their profit margins!
Now, I have to buy an alternative plastic bag as a bin liner. So it is deceiving to label these grocery bags as 'single-use items'.

These plastics bags become only a single use item due to ignorant consumer who will never give a stuff about the environment, irrespective of the alternatives.

One must remember that the Greenies gave their approval for these plastic bags as a suitable substitute to chopping down trees!.

One item that Greenies are reluctant to touch and is definitely a SINGLE USE item is the DISPOSABLE NAPPIES, considering that historically a suitable alternative has always existed.

Guess it’s an acceptable pollutant to retain the modern family votes.

But the Government has flagged an intention to tighten regulations to ensure fewer end up in landfill, rivers and oceans.

These disposable nappies also consist of plastic and other items that clog the waterways and litter roads and car parks.

Many users don’t even dispose of these nappies in the proper manner by flushing the turds down the sewer before placing them in the bin. All this crap is leaching into our waterways from landfill etc.

If ur serious about the environment, demand that disposable nappies are removed of the selves and make them a prescribed item.

Furthermore, I hate the Greenies!

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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby pinkeye » 07 Jul 2019, 22:30

:jump

Nah .. paper , hemp, reusable glass bottles... it's easy really.. we just let it go 'cos it was convenient.!


Look what that got us. Hey,, Chuck..? go live on one of the plastic garbage islands we have created. You'd be happy there.
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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby DonDeeHippy » 08 Jul 2019, 05:09

Chuck wrote:
mothra wrote:Non-biodegradable single-use plastic bags have been banned at South Australian supermarket checkouts for about a decade, with consumers charged a small amount for reusable bags.

What a con job by the business community to increase their profit margins!
Now, I have to buy an alternative plastic bag as a bin liner. So it is deceiving to label these grocery bags as 'single-use items'.

These plastics bags become only a single use item due to ignorant consumer who will never give a stuff about the environment, irrespective of the alternatives.

One must remember that the Greenies gave their approval for these plastic bags as a suitable substitute to chopping down trees!.

One item that Greenies are reluctant to touch and is definitely a SINGLE USE item is the DISPOSABLE NAPPIES, considering that historically a suitable alternative has always existed.

Guess it’s an acceptable pollutant to retain the modern family votes.

But the Government has flagged an intention to tighten regulations to ensure fewer end up in landfill, rivers and oceans.

These disposable nappies also consist of plastic and other items that clog the waterways and litter roads and car parks.

Many users don’t even dispose of these nappies in the proper manner by flushing the turds down the sewer before placing them in the bin. All this crap is leaching into our waterways from landfill etc.

If ur serious about the environment, demand that disposable nappies are removed of the selves and make them a prescribed item.

Furthermore, I hate the Greenies!

Chuck

instead of a bin liner why not just wash the bin with left over dish water...…. we forget that's what we used to do before bin liners...….
So you hate greenies, is that the political party or the people trying to save the world :purple
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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby greggerypeccary » 08 Jul 2019, 07:00

mothra wrote:South Australia to become first state to ban plastic items including straws, Government says


I thought Western Australia had already done this.

I've noticed that all the pubs are using cardboard/paper straws now.

Haven't seen plastic ones for about a year or so.
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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby greggerypeccary » 08 Jul 2019, 07:17

greggerypeccary wrote:
mothra wrote:South Australia to become first state to ban plastic items including straws, Government says


I thought Western Australia had already done this.

I've noticed that all the pubs are using cardboard/paper straws now.

Haven't seen plastic ones for about a year or so.


Ah! Just found this:

https://thewest.com.au/news/rottnest/rottnest-island-bans-plastic-drinking-straws-ng-b881181069z

"Rottnest Island will become the first Australian jurisdiction to ban plastic drinking straws, but green groups and anti-plastic campaigners say the entire State should now go straw-free.

"The WA Government yesterday announced single-use plastic straws would be banned on Rotto from May 1, when cafes and businesses would only supply biodegradable paper straws upon request."
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Postby Chuck » 08 Jul 2019, 09:52

DonDeeHippy wrote:
Chuck wrote:
mothra wrote:Non-biodegradable single-use plastic bags have been banned at South Australian supermarket checkouts for about a decade, with consumers charged a small amount for reusable bags.

What a con job by the business community to increase their profit margins!
Now, I have to buy an alternative plastic bag as a bin liner. So it is deceiving to label these grocery bags as 'single-use items'.

These plastics bags become only a single use item due to ignorant consumer who will never give a stuff about the environment, irrespective of the alternatives.

One must remember that the Greenies gave their approval for these plastic bags as a suitable substitute to chopping down trees!.

One item that Greenies are reluctant to touch and is definitely a SINGLE USE item is the DISPOSABLE NAPPIES, considering that historically a suitable alternative has always existed.

Guess it’s an acceptable pollutant to retain the modern family votes.

But the Government has flagged an intention to tighten regulations to ensure fewer end up in landfill, rivers and oceans.

These disposable nappies also consist of plastic and other items that clog the waterways and litter roads and car parks.

Many users don’t even dispose of these nappies in the proper manner by flushing the turds down the sewer before placing them in the bin. All this crap is leaching into our waterways from landfill etc.


If ur serious about the environment, demand that disposable nappies are removed of the selves and make them a prescribed item.

Furthermore, I hate the Greenies!

Chuck



instead of a bin liner why not just wash the bin with left over dish water...…. we forget that's what we used to do before bin liners...….
So you hate greenies, is that the political party or the people trying to save the world:purple


Don’t be a hypocrite!
Save the world by getting rid of the disposable nappies - don’t ignore the plastic in this product.

The Greenie political party that has caused suffering and starvation thru a number of countries because of their absurd agenda.

You can also blame them for the introduction of plastic bags!

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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby DonDeeHippy » 08 Jul 2019, 10:23

Chuck wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote:
Chuck wrote:
mothra wrote:Non-biodegradable single-use plastic bags have been banned at South Australian supermarket checkouts for about a decade, with consumers charged a small amount for reusable bags.

What a con job by the business community to increase their profit margins!
Now, I have to buy an alternative plastic bag as a bin liner. So it is deceiving to label these grocery bags as 'single-use items'.

These plastics bags become only a single use item due to ignorant consumer who will never give a stuff about the environment, irrespective of the alternatives.

One must remember that the Greenies gave their approval for these plastic bags as a suitable substitute to chopping down trees!.

One item that Greenies are reluctant to touch and is definitely a SINGLE USE item is the DISPOSABLE NAPPIES, considering that historically a suitable alternative has always existed.

Guess it’s an acceptable pollutant to retain the modern family votes.

But the Government has flagged an intention to tighten regulations to ensure fewer end up in landfill, rivers and oceans.

These disposable nappies also consist of plastic and other items that clog the waterways and litter roads and car parks.

Many users don’t even dispose of these nappies in the proper manner by flushing the turds down the sewer before placing them in the bin. All this crap is leaching into our waterways from landfill etc.


If ur serious about the environment, demand that disposable nappies are removed of the selves and make them a prescribed item.

Furthermore, I hate the Greenies!

Chuck



instead of a bin liner why not just wash the bin with left over dish water...…. we forget that's what we used to do before bin liners...….
So you hate greenies, is that the political party or the people trying to save the world:purple


Don’t be a hypocrite!
Save the world by getting rid of the disposable nappies - don’t ignore the plastic in this product.

The Greenie political party that has caused suffering and starvation thru a number of countries because of their absurd agenda.

You can also blame them for the introduction of plastic bags!

Chuck

WTF are you on about, how am I a hypocrite.
Where have "the Greens "caused suffering and starvation in other countries ?

so the greens introduced one use plastic bags...…
Are you from central Europe by any chance ? :huh
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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby Chuck » 08 Jul 2019, 10:46

DonDeeHippy wrote:
Chuck wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote:
Chuck wrote:
mothra wrote:Non-biodegradable single-use plastic bags have been banned at South Australian supermarket checkouts for about a decade, with consumers charged a small amount for reusable bags.

What a con job by the business community to increase their profit margins!
Now, I have to buy an alternative plastic bag as a bin liner. So it is deceiving to label these grocery bags as 'single-use items'.

These plastics bags become only a single use item due to ignorant consumer who will never give a stuff about the environment, irrespective of the alternatives.

One must remember that the Greenies gave their approval for these plastic bags as a suitable substitute to chopping down trees!.

One item that Greenies are reluctant to touch and is definitely a SINGLE USE item is the DISPOSABLE NAPPIES, considering that historically a suitable alternative has always existed.

Guess it’s an acceptable pollutant to retain the modern family votes.

But the Government has flagged an intention to tighten regulations to ensure fewer end up in landfill, rivers and oceans.



These disposable nappies also consist of plastic and other items that clog the waterways and litter roads and car parks.

Many users don’t even dispose of these nappies in the proper manner by flushing the turds down the sewer before placing them in the bin. All this crap is leaching into our waterways from landfill etc.


If ur serious about the environment, demand that disposable nappies are removed of the selves and make them a prescribed item.

Furthermore, I hate the Greenies!

Chuck



instead of a bin liner why not just wash the bin with left over dish water...…. we forget that's what we used to do before bin liners...….
So you hate greenies, is that the political party or the people trying to save the world:purple


Don’t be a hypocrite!
Save the world by getting rid of the disposable nappies - don’t ignore the plastic in this product.

The Greenie political party that has caused suffering and starvation thru a number of countries because of their absurd agenda.

You can also blame them for the introduction of plastic bags!

Chuck

WTF are you on about, how am I a hypocrite.
Where have "the Greens "caused suffering and starvation in other countries ?

so the greens introduced one use plastic bags...…
Are you from central Europe by any chance ? :huh


Just to reiterate once again, to the Greenies, plastic bags was an acceptable alternative to the use of paper bags being used for groceries.

Some poorer folks suffered due to the demands by the Greenies, that edible crops being replaced with bio-fuel crops in South America- that happened many years ago.

Noticed, the avoidance of any mention of removing disposable nappies of the shopping shelves. This item isn’t a necessity for the majority of modern families. It uses should be for special needs, and should be a prescription item.

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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby Chuck » 08 Jul 2019, 21:28

FROM AUSTRALIANSCIENCE.

Disposable Nappies: Are They Stinking Up Our Planet?
Disposable nappies may seem highly convenient when babies are abound, but there is an uglier side to keeping our bubs clean: disposable nappies pose serious issues for the natural environment that will last well into the future.
..........

Disposable Nappy Use in Australia
(1) According to figures released in 2009 by IbisWorld, Australians use around 5.6 million nappies per day

(2) This means that over 2 billion used nappies go into landfill sites in Australia each year

(3) Over 95% of Aussie parents still use disposable nappies today, either all of the time or in conjunction with reusable nappies

(4) The nappy problem isn’t just confined to Australia; for instance, Americans use 27.4 billion disposable nappies each year, which is enough waste to stretch to the moon and back 9 times

Key Environmental Issues
Despite their modern popularity, the ease of disposable nappies and the sheer volume that we use each year poses significant environmental problems.

Manufacturing Impact: Disposable nappies require large volumes of pulp, paper, plastic and other raw materials in the manufacturing process and hence, significant amounts of water and energy are used. This contributes to energy waste and pollution on a large scale and also links to other problems associated with deforestation and non-sustainable sourcing.

Nappy Fact: According to The Good Human, disposable nappies use 3 times more energy, 20 times more raw materials and 2 times more water than reusables during the manufacturing process.

Landfill Problems: Disposable nappies also place a huge strain on landfill sites in Australia. When combined with other absorbent hygiene materials (such as sanitary pads and incontinence pads), this results in around 450,000 tonnes of landfill waste every year and also contributes to notable amounts of carbon emissions.

Decomposition Problems: Many disposable nappies are also not as biodegradable as we assume. Scientists estimate that once nappies end up in a landfill, they can take around 500 years to decompose.

Contamination Issues: When we defecate, our waste goes into the toilet for good reason: It is treated and sanitised before being recycled or put back into our environment. The waste in disposable nappies, on the other hand, goes straight into the bin. As a result, when the nappies are placed into landfill, certain bacteria and viruses are at risk of soaking in to our groundwater and causing subsequent contamination problems.

Nappy Fact: If you threw out a disposable nappy anytime this year, it wouldn’t fully decompose until the year 2514

Environmentally Friendly Nappy Solutions
Luckily, there are several environmentally friendly solutions available to Australian consumers that can decrease the impact nappies have on our environment.

1. Reusable Cloth Nappies

According to a study conducted by the University of Queensland, “reusable nappies have the potential for the least environmental impact” (assuming they are washed in a water efficient washing machine using cold water and then line dried).

Reusable nappies can be made from a variety of materials, including organic cotton, bamboo, wool and hemp. Some manufacturers argue that making nappies from these materials is much more beneficial for the environment, since these plants don’t require harsh chemicals and pesticides to grow.

The follow if from the ABC Updated 25 May 2015,

Dumping dirty nappies on roadsides and in public parks in the ACT has been described as "an ongoing, revolting problem".
.................
"People are chucking nappies out the windows and leaving them in car parks. Even in parks we're seeing the incorrect disposal of dirty nappies," Mr McLean said.

"Presumably many soiled nappies are thrown out of cars because, like cigarette butts, they smell.

"We see all sorts of things dumped on the sides of highways, but disposable nappies are an ongoing concern in the Keep Australia Beautiful national litter index."
...................
There are some that are more biodegradable than others but it still takes some disposable nappies up to 500 years to break down, even in landfill.

Mr McLean said nappies made up 25 per cent of miscellaneous rubbish dumped in and around Canberra.

"They're problem items in the waste stream even if they're very convenient for families and parents," Mr McLean said.

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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby pinkeye » 09 Jul 2019, 01:25

so stop multi-nats from producing them.
THEY are the ones responsible. Them and the ad managers that sell people stuff they don't need. I'd ban them tomorrow, if it were up to me.

I remember cotton nappies. Of course, a mother that has to keep their children dry and happy, are so busy washing nappies, they can't work.!
Not enough .. get out and earn a living. So, disposable nappies became ALMOST necessary. Don't lay blame.. we are all responsible.
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Postby DonDeeHippy » 09 Jul 2019, 07:24

Chuck wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote:
Chuck wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote:
Chuck wrote:
mothra wrote:Non-biodegradable single-use plastic bags have been banned at South Australian supermarket checkouts for about a decade, with consumers charged a small amount for reusable bags.

What a con job by the business community to increase their profit margins!
Now, I have to buy an alternative plastic bag as a bin liner. So it is deceiving to label these grocery bags as 'single-use items'.

These plastics bags become only a single use item due to ignorant consumer who will never give a stuff about the environment, irrespective of the alternatives.

One must remember that the Greenies gave their approval for these plastic bags as a suitable substitute to chopping down trees!.

One item that Greenies are reluctant to touch and is definitely a SINGLE USE item is the DISPOSABLE NAPPIES, considering that historically a suitable alternative has always existed.

Guess it’s an acceptable pollutant to retain the modern family votes.

But the Government has flagged an intention to tighten regulations to ensure fewer end up in landfill, rivers and oceans.



These disposable nappies also consist of plastic and other items that clog the waterways and litter roads and car parks.

Many users don’t even dispose of these nappies in the proper manner by flushing the turds down the sewer before placing them in the bin. All this crap is leaching into our waterways from landfill etc.


If ur serious about the environment, demand that disposable nappies are removed of the selves and make them a prescribed item.

Furthermore, I hate the Greenies!

Chuck



instead of a bin liner why not just wash the bin with left over dish water...…. we forget that's what we used to do before bin liners...….
So you hate greenies, is that the political party or the people trying to save the world:purple


Don’t be a hypocrite!
Save the world by getting rid of the disposable nappies - don’t ignore the plastic in this product.

The Greenie political party that has caused suffering and starvation thru a number of countries because of their absurd agenda.

You can also blame them for the introduction of plastic bags!

Chuck

WTF are you on about, how am I a hypocrite.
Where have "the Greens "caused suffering and starvation in other countries ?

so the greens introduced one use plastic bags...…
Are you from central Europe by any chance ? :huh


Just to reiterate once again, to the Greenies, plastic bags was an acceptable alternative to the use of paper bags being used for groceries.

Some poorer folks suffered due to the demands by the Greenies, that edible crops being replaced with bio-fuel crops in South America- that happened many years ago.

Noticed, the avoidance of any mention of removing disposable nappies of the shopping shelves. This item isn’t a necessity for the majority of modern families. It uses should be for special needs, and should be a prescription item.

Chuck

so going from paper bags to plastic had nothing to do with the fact plastic bags are cheaper and smaller so take up less room, it's a the greenies fault and not corporate greed, how convenient...
Wow and crops going from food crops to grain because of greeenies and not corporate greed.
The poor companies it's not their fault that they poisoned us and the land, it's all the greenies fault, thanks for setting us straight...
Yes to make you happy, disposable nappies are bad and should be looked at being removed or how to recycle them, but as the thread is about straws I didn't bother entering that argument, remembering back all those years ago when I had babies we used both, disposable for when we went out and during winter as we didn't have much water and normal nappies you needed so much washing not just for them but for bedclothes and clothes as they usually leak...
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Postby DonDeeHippy » 09 Jul 2019, 07:32

Chuck wrote:FROM AUSTRALIANSCIENCE.

Disposable Nappies: Are They Stinking Up Our Planet?
Disposable nappies may seem highly convenient when babies are abound, but there is an uglier side to keeping our bubs clean: disposable nappies pose serious issues for the natural environment that will last well into the future.
..........

Disposable Nappy Use in Australia
(1) According to figures released in 2009 by IbisWorld, Australians use around 5.6 million nappies per day

(2) This means that over 2 billion used nappies go into landfill sites in Australia each year

(3) Over 95% of Aussie parents still use disposable nappies today, either all of the time or in conjunction with reusable nappies

(4) The nappy problem isn’t just confined to Australia; for instance, Americans use 27.4 billion disposable nappies each year, which is enough waste to stretch to the moon and back 9 times

Key Environmental Issues
Despite their modern popularity, the ease of disposable nappies and the sheer volume that we use each year poses significant environmental problems.

Manufacturing Impact: Disposable nappies require large volumes of pulp, paper, plastic and other raw materials in the manufacturing process and hence, significant amounts of water and energy are used. This contributes to energy waste and pollution on a large scale and also links to other problems associated with deforestation and non-sustainable sourcing.

Nappy Fact: According to The Good Human, disposable nappies use 3 times more energy, 20 times more raw materials and 2 times more water than reusables during the manufacturing process.

Landfill Problems: Disposable nappies also place a huge strain on landfill sites in Australia. When combined with other absorbent hygiene materials (such as sanitary pads and incontinence pads), this results in around 450,000 tonnes of landfill waste every year and also contributes to notable amounts of carbon emissions.

Decomposition Problems: Many disposable nappies are also not as biodegradable as we assume. Scientists estimate that once nappies end up in a landfill, they can take around 500 years to decompose.

Contamination Issues: When we defecate, our waste goes into the toilet for good reason: It is treated and sanitised before being recycled or put back into our environment. The waste in disposable nappies, on the other hand, goes straight into the bin. As a result, when the nappies are placed into landfill, certain bacteria and viruses are at risk of soaking in to our groundwater and causing subsequent contamination problems.

Nappy Fact: If you threw out a disposable nappy anytime this year, it wouldn’t fully decompose until the year 2514

Environmentally Friendly Nappy Solutions
Luckily, there are several environmentally friendly solutions available to Australian consumers that can decrease the impact nappies have on our environment.

1. Reusable Cloth Nappies

According to a study conducted by the University of Queensland, “reusable nappies have the potential for the least environmental impact” (assuming they are washed in a water efficient washing machine using cold water and then line dried).

Reusable nappies can be made from a variety of materials, including organic cotton, bamboo, wool and hemp. Some manufacturers argue that making nappies from these materials is much more beneficial for the environment, since these plants don’t require harsh chemicals and pesticides to grow.

The follow if from the ABC Updated 25 May 2015,

Dumping dirty nappies on roadsides and in public parks in the ACT has been described as "an ongoing, revolting problem".
.................
"People are chucking nappies out the windows and leaving them in car parks. Even in parks we're seeing the incorrect disposal of dirty nappies," Mr McLean said.

"Presumably many soiled nappies are thrown out of cars because, like cigarette butts, they smell.

"We see all sorts of things dumped on the sides of highways, but disposable nappies are an ongoing concern in the Keep Australia Beautiful national litter index."
...................
There are some that are more biodegradable than others but it still takes some disposable nappies up to 500 years to break down, even in landfill.

Mr McLean said nappies made up 25 per cent of miscellaneous rubbish dumped in and around Canberra.

"They're problem items in the waste stream even if they're very convenient for families and parents," Mr McLean said.

Chuck

we are not going to get rid of disposable nappies, instead they have to figure out how to make them recyclable, which will cost more money and therefore the companies will have to be forced to do so, the government will have to regulate (then I'm sure you will blame the greenies for making Australia more of a nanny state), not sure how to stop grubs from littering.....Education? :purple
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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby Chuck » 09 Jul 2019, 12:39

I remember cotton nappies. Of course, a mother that has to keep their children dry and happy, are so busy washing nappies, they can't work.!
Not enough .. get out and earn a living. So, disposable nappies became ALMOST necessary. Don't lay blame.. we are all responsible.


What a feeble excuse, to justify the right to pollute.
Don’t u have a automatic washing machine and drier that washes for u.

It won’t be to long before ur missus can turn on the washing machine/ drier remotely and the nappies will only need to be stored away. Maybe that would be too much effort for u!

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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby Chuck » 09 Jul 2019, 16:52

pinkeye wrote:so stop multi-nats from producing them.
THEY are the ones responsible. Them and the ad managers that sell people stuff they don't need.
The Greenies put political pressure on our politicians and the business community to use plastic grocery bags to prevent recyclable trees being chopped down.

They just simply stuffed up! And are to blame for the the plastic problem.

It similar to the introduction of cars in towns and cities. The car, cleaned up the smell and dropping of horse shit and got rid of the odour permeating in the cities.

At that time it would have been viewed as an environmental improvement!

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Postby Chuck » 09 Jul 2019, 17:15

DonDeeHippy wrote: remembering back all those years ago when I had babies we used both, disposable for when we went out and during winter as we didn't have much water and normal nappies you needed so much washing not just for them but for bedclothes and clothes as they usually leak...
That why disposable nappies should be on the prescription list! There usage should be limited for certain medical or whilst travelling on holidays and not a common day item. This proposal will discourage there usage.

At least, needing to wash nappies, you will be forced to depose of faecal matter properly - unless ur a turd dumper into the bin.

At least it becomes a form of controlled deposal of waste matter - limit nappies in our waterways or littering the highways in car parks or in bus shelters. The mantra is recycle and cloth nappies should be viewed as a positive for the environment!

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Postby DonDeeHippy » 10 Jul 2019, 06:31

Chuck wrote:
pinkeye wrote:so stop multi-nats from producing them.
THEY are the ones responsible. Them and the ad managers that sell people stuff they don't need.
The Greenies put political pressure on our politicians and the business community to use plastic grocery bags to prevent recyclable trees being chopped down.

They just simply stuffed up! And are to blame for the the plastic problem.

It similar to the introduction of cars in towns and cities. The car, cleaned up the smell and dropping of horse shit and got rid of the odour permeating in the cities.

At that time it would have been viewed as an environmental improvement!

Chuck

cheaper to run, more speed ,more carrying capacity and more range had nothing to do with it...…..now you trying to say greenies introduced cars to stop the smell of horse shit in cities..... wow chuck... these greenies have done everything haven't they ?
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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby DonDeeHippy » 10 Jul 2019, 06:41

Chuck wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote: remembering back all those years ago when I had babies we used both, disposable for when we went out and during winter as we didn't have much water and normal nappies you needed so much washing not just for them but for bedclothes and clothes as they usually leak...
That why disposable nappies should be on the prescription list! There usage should be limited for certain medical or whilst travelling on holidays and not a common day item. This proposal will discourage there usage.

At least, needing to wash nappies, you will be forced to depose of faecal matter properly - unless ur a turd dumper into the bin.

At least it becomes a form of controlled deposal of waste matter - limit nappies in our waterways or littering the highways in car parks or in bus shelters. The mantra is recycle and cloth nappies should be viewed as a positive for the environment!

Chuck
if they need to be a prescription then next thing you know it will be free and even more nappies will be dolled out......
Again i think they need to be made to be recycled , even money back at disposal centres like plastic bottles, not sure how that would work but I'm sure there are minds out there that could work out the details... :purple
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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby Chuck » 10 Jul 2019, 12:16

DonDeeHippy wrote:
Chuck wrote:
pinkeye wrote:so stop multi-nats from producing them.
THEY are the ones responsible. Them and the ad managers that sell people stuff they don't need.
The Greenies put political pressure on our politicians and the business community to use plastic grocery bags to prevent recyclable trees being chopped down.

They just simply stuffed up! And are to blame for the the plastic problem.

It similar to the introduction of cars in towns and cities. The car, cleaned up the smell and dropping of horse shit and got rid of the odour permeating in the cities.

At that time it would have been viewed as an environmental improvement!

Chuck

cheaper to run, more speed ,more carrying capacity and more range had nothing to do with it...…..now you trying to say greenies introduced cars to stop the smell of horse shit in cities..... wow chuck... these greenies have done everything haven't they ?


I simply put forward a historical example of how the car cleaned up the cities of yesteryears and as time passes we become aware of problems generated by our perceived solution.

Recall from my original post on this subject that 'whatever mankind’s does has consequences'.

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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby DonDeeHippy » 10 Jul 2019, 12:33

Chuck wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote:
Chuck wrote:
pinkeye wrote:so stop multi-nats from producing them.
THEY are the ones responsible. Them and the ad managers that sell people stuff they don't need.
The Greenies put political pressure on our politicians and the business community to use plastic grocery bags to prevent recyclable trees being chopped down.

They just simply stuffed up! And are to blame for the the plastic problem.

It similar to the introduction of cars in towns and cities. The car, cleaned up the smell and dropping of horse shit and got rid of the odour permeating in the cities.

At that time it would have been viewed as an environmental improvement!

Chuck

cheaper to run, more speed ,more carrying capacity and more range had nothing to do with it...…..now you trying to say greenies introduced cars to stop the smell of horse shit in cities..... wow chuck... these greenies have done everything haven't they ?


I simply put forward a historical example of how the car cleaned up the cities of yesteryears and as time passes we become aware of problems generated by our perceived solution.

Recall from my original post on this subject that 'whatever mankind’s does has consequences'.

Chuck

exactly and the quicker we stop burning fossil fuels the better..... :purple
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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby Chuck » 10 Jul 2019, 12:37

DonDeeHippy wrote:we are not going to get rid of disposable nappies, instead they have to figure out how to make them recyclable, .....Education?


It appears education doesn’t work on U!

U know there is a suitable alternative but ur pigheaded and promote this pollutant simply due to laziness.

Even the Greenies have realised that promoting plastic grocery bag was the wrong move and been pushing to revert back to paper.

So follow their lead and promote that the modern families should go back to cloth nappies!

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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby Bongalong » 10 Jul 2019, 12:48

Lol, chuck thinks he's a nazi!
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Re: South Australia to ban straws, plastic cutlery

Postby DonDeeHippy » 10 Jul 2019, 13:04

Chuck wrote:
DonDeeHippy wrote:we are not going to get rid of disposable nappies, instead they have to figure out how to make them recyclable, .....Education?


It appears education doesn’t work on U!

U know there is a suitable alternative but ur pigheaded and promote this pollutant simply due to laziness.

Even the Greenies have realised that promoting plastic grocery bag was the wrong move and been pushing to revert back to paper.

So follow their lead and promote that the modern families should go back to cloth nappies!

Chuck

we are not going to get rid of disposable nappies, instead they have to figure out how to make them recyclable, which will cost more money and therefore the companies will have to be forced to do so, the government will have to regulate (then I'm sure you will blame the greenies for making Australia more of a nanny state), not sure how to stop grubs from littering.....Education?

Chuck please don't change my words and say it's a quote from me... It's very rude.. I've put the original paragraph I wrote and you have distorted what I said.
Do it again and i'll just ignore you..... :purple
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