New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Discuss politics and current affairs here.

Hot topic: The scourge of negative gearing, Friends of the NBN and wrecking lives.  The economy and Poll tracking— all the polls.

Special Feature 1: Peter Costello and our current deficits.
Special Feature 2: Dr Turnbull and the wrong NBN prescription
Special Feature 3: The Denigration of science, technology and education.
.
Forum rules
The rules for this board are in the Charter of Moderation. Politics is for serious discussion of politics, economics and current affairs.

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby Dax » 04 Jul 2019, 14:33

DreamRyderX wrote:
George Washington didn't use his Freedom of Speech to defeat the British....no, he & his American Patriots used the firearms the British wanted to confiscate from them, & they shot the British very dead with those same firearms.
Image Image Image

..


That was going on 300 years ago and you lot are still fervently paranoid and still haven't got your shit together. Nothing like living deep in the past in paranoid fear of yourselves so bad you're prepared to slaughter your children, which makes a lot of sense to fools.
User avatar
Dax
Cheetah
 
Posts: 1299
Joined: 12 Apr 2017, 11:15
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby hatty » 04 Jul 2019, 14:52

what dax said........ we don't agree on everything me and dax but we do on this. it seems
User avatar
hatty
mountain lion
 
Posts: 934
Joined: 30 Apr 2018, 11:48
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby Texan » 04 Jul 2019, 15:41

Meanwhile, no foreign military has dared to invade continental America since the19th century. Even the Civil War is tiny when compared to WW2 casualties in Europe. How many have died on European soil? I guess lives only matter when they are killed by civilians?

How many citizens have been killed by their own government after the people were disarmed? You can ignore the connection, but excuse me if I don't.

1911: Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Christian Armenians rounded up and exterminated.

1929: The Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929-1953, 20 million dissidents rounded up and murdered.

1938: Germany established gun control. From 1939-1945, 13 million Jews and others rounded up and exterminated.

1935: China established gun control. From 1948-1952, 20 million political dissidents rounded up and exterminated.

1964: Guatemala established gun control. From 1981-1984, 100,000 Mayan Indians rounded up and exterminated.

1970: Uganda established gun control. From 1971-1979, 300,000 Christians rounded up and exterminated.

1956: Cambodia established gun control. From 1975-1977, 1 million educated people rounded up and exterminated.

In the 20th Century more than 56 million defenseless people were rounded up and exterminated by people using gun control.
Govern wisely, and as little as possible.
President Sam Houston
User avatar
Texan
Cheetah
 
Posts: 1163
Joined: 21 Oct 2018, 13:38
Location: Ellis County
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby Aussie » 04 Jul 2019, 16:11

Texan wrote:Meanwhile, no foreign military has dared to invade continental America since the19th century. Even the Civil War is tiny when compared to WW2 casualties in Europe. How many have died on European soil? I guess lives only matter when they are killed by civilians?

How many citizens have been killed by their own government after the people were disarmed? You can ignore the connection, but excuse me if I don't.

1911: Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Christian Armenians rounded up and exterminated.

1929: The Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929-1953, 20 million dissidents rounded up and murdered.

1938: Germany established gun control. From 1939-1945, 13 million Jews and others rounded up and exterminated.

1935: China established gun control. From 1948-1952, 20 million political dissidents rounded up and exterminated.

1964: Guatemala established gun control. From 1981-1984, 100,000 Mayan Indians rounded up and exterminated.

1970: Uganda established gun control. From 1971-1979, 300,000 Christians rounded up and exterminated.

1956: Cambodia established gun control. From 1975-1977, 1 million educated people rounded up and exterminated.

In the 20th Century more than 56 million defenseless people were rounded up and exterminated by people using gun control.


Accepting your figures at face value...it does not establish that if they had guns, those events would have been prevented. There is no way, no matter how many guns there are in the US right now, any civilians even organised, could withstand an attack by the US military machine, one which is pledged to support POTUS, no matter how crazy the bloke is.
User avatar
Aussie
Minister for Foreign Affairs
 
Posts: 8475
Joined: 13 Mar 2010, 17:25

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DonDeeHippy » 04 Jul 2019, 17:26

Texan wrote:Meanwhile, no foreign military has dared to invade continental America since the19th century. Even the Civil War is tiny when compared to WW2 casualties in Europe. How many have died on European soil? I guess lives only matter when they are killed by civilians?

How many citizens have been killed by their own government after the people were disarmed? You can ignore the connection, but excuse me if I don't.

1911: Turkey established gun control. From 1915-1917, 1.5 million Christian Armenians rounded up and exterminated.

1929: The Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929-1953, 20 million dissidents rounded up and murdered.

1938: Germany established gun control. From 1939-1945, 13 million Jews and others rounded up and exterminated.

1935: China established gun control. From 1948-1952, 20 million political dissidents rounded up and exterminated.

1964: Guatemala established gun control. From 1981-1984, 100,000 Mayan Indians rounded up and exterminated.

1970: Uganda established gun control. From 1971-1979, 300,000 Christians rounded up and exterminated.

1956: Cambodia established gun control. From 1975-1977, 1 million educated people rounded up and exterminated.

In the 20th Century more than 56 million defenseless people were rounded up and exterminated by people using gun control.

1994 Australia established gun control, from 1994 -2019 0 defenceless people where rounded up and killed by the government or extremists
Bongalong... for some reason women are just so superior to anything that ever existed or will ever exist!
User avatar
DonDeeHippy
Jaguar
 
Posts: 1526
Joined: 25 Apr 2018, 20:18
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby johnsmith » 04 Jul 2019, 17:29

how many places on that list were genuine democracies? :roll


your power to get rid of corrupt governments is in your vote, not in your holster.

Do you really think that if the US military decided to obey an order to kill Americans, you'd stand a chance just because you have a few handguns and a shotgun?

How many of the taliban were armed? What about ISIS?

it's a myth that your right to own guns protects you from your govt.
FD.
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
User avatar
johnsmith
Mastodon
 
Posts: 8548
Joined: 25 Sep 2017, 21:39
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby HBS Guy » 04 Jul 2019, 19:04

The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto had weapons. They were annihilated all the same.
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 52433
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 14:37

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DonDeeHippy » 05 Jul 2019, 07:30

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_ ... _by_nation
There are plenty of countries with gun laws, like Australia though , they don't disarm a population just make gun owners accountable, That's a big difference Texan's fail to see :thumb
Bongalong... for some reason women are just so superior to anything that ever existed or will ever exist!
User avatar
DonDeeHippy
Jaguar
 
Posts: 1526
Joined: 25 Apr 2018, 20:18
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby Texan » 05 Jul 2019, 08:07

johnsmith wrote:how many places on that list were genuine democracies? :roll


your power to get rid of corrupt governments is in your vote, not in your holster.

Do you really think that if the US military decided to obey an order to kill Americans, you'd stand a chance just because you have a few handguns and a shotgun?

How many of the taliban were armed? What about ISIS?

it's a myth that your right to own guns protects you from your govt.

Governments tend to evolve.

As Thomas Jefferson said in a letter to William Stephens Smith, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.". How do you do that if you let the tyrants disarm you? Do you really think that anywhere near a majority of American soldiers will fire on the American public? Some of them will defend the public against an unconstitutional order. They don't have enough bombs and soldiers to fight through 100,000,000 gun owners with nowhere else to run to. We have 50 state militias with tanks, helicopters, and fighter jets that answer directly to their governors. Every state has thousands if not tens of thousands of armed and trained police. The states and the people are not defenseless.
Govern wisely, and as little as possible.
President Sam Houston
User avatar
Texan
Cheetah
 
Posts: 1163
Joined: 21 Oct 2018, 13:38
Location: Ellis County
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DreamRyderX » 05 Jul 2019, 09:12

Texan wrote:
johnsmith wrote:how many places on that list were genuine democracies? :roll


your power to get rid of corrupt governments is in your vote, not in your holster.

Do you really think that if the US military decided to obey an order to kill Americans, you'd stand a chance just because you have a few handguns and a shotgun?

How many of the taliban were armed? What about ISIS?

it's a myth that your right to own guns protects you from your govt.

Governments tend to evolve.

As Thomas Jefferson said in a letter to William Stephens Smith, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.". How do you do that if you let the tyrants disarm you? Do you really think that anywhere near a majority of American soldiers will fire on the American public? Some of them will defend the public against an unconstitutional order. They don't have enough bombs and soldiers to fight through 100,000,000 gun owners with nowhere else to run to. We have 50 state militias with tanks, helicopters, and fighter jets that answer directly to their governors. Every state has thousands if not tens of thousands of armed and trained police. The states and the people are not defenseless.


SPOT ON!!! Texan....... Image


Every leader, every elected official at all levels of government, every member of the military, every law enforcement officer, & every judge across America swears an oath with one thing in common above all else.......they swear to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States"..... First & Foremost... "preserve, protect and defend the US Constitution" not the Country, nor it's flag, nor it's government, nor any of it's leaders.....they swear to first & foremost preserve, protect and defend the Constitution!!!

At last reading the Second Amendment was still in the US Constitution. The Oaths that they swore before God does not give them the options to pick & choose what parts of the Constitution they must defend..........they must Preserve, Protect, & Defend ALL of the US Constitution.

Besides that many, if not most, US Servicemen are gun owners themselves, & know the value of the US Constitution. It is in their code that it is their duty not to obey an unjust or unconstitutional order, regardless of who gives it. These men take their oaths & military codes very seriously!

Better than 70% of all US Law Enforcement, the Sheriffs & their deputies, are hired directly by the American People......not the government......they are elected directly by the People, & they answer directly to the People.....not the government. They also take the same or similar oaths to defend the US Constitution above all else.
Many, if not most, are also gun owners. Many of these Sheriffs nationwide have put themselves on record that if their State passes law which would deprive their citizens the Right to Keep & Bear Arms, acknowledged, protected, & defended by the Second Amendment, that they will flatly refuse to enforce any such law.

If the orders came down to confiscate their Fellow Americans Firearms, by any means necessary including deadly force, many will take their side with their Fellow American Citizens, against what would be termed a TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT........Furthermore, I would expect many Armed Servicemen to abandon their service & posts, & take their arms with them......the Air Force their bombers, the infantry their tanks, & all the arms they & their buddies could carry & transport......same goes for the local police, sheriffs, & their deputies.......the Navy personnel, whatever ships they could commandeer.




No, I don't think it would go well for any government in power to make any such orders upon highly armed, trained, & motivated American Citizens ALL!

Oh, & this should go without having to be said, but if such an order was passed down upon the American People, for what it's worth, I would depart post haste from these Australian shores, make my way back to the USA to take up arms against a Tyrannical Government, & stand shoulder to shoulder with my Fellow Americans, in their time of need, for a most just cause!


..
The US Constitution is not an instrument for the US Government to restrain the American People,
it is an instrument for the American People to restrain the US Government.
-- Patrick Henry
User avatar
DreamRyderX
Jack Russell
 
Posts: 184
Joined: 14 Jul 2018, 11:45
Location: Victoria, Australia
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby hatty » 05 Jul 2019, 10:33

except america's possible future tyrannical government has the best weapons on the fucking planet..... gun loving american's brag about it...... when they aren't selling them to terrorists...... oh wait they brag about that too.

good luck taking a gloc to a fucking drone fight...

not that they ever will cause the american government only does bad shit offshore.

and still all the death and misery in the US ...... goes unmentioned
User avatar
hatty
mountain lion
 
Posts: 934
Joined: 30 Apr 2018, 11:48
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby Bongalong » 05 Jul 2019, 11:13

HBS Guy wrote:The Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto had weapons. They were annihilated all the same.

But that's a focussed attack on a subgroup in a specific location: the American people is a general term i.e. non location specific. (Plus they nailed their colours to the wall and payed for it for all eternity... that's why Germans abandoned their own country and changed their names out of pure embarrassment!)
"Oi!"
Bongalong
Warthog
 
Posts: 2712
Joined: 25 Jun 2018, 11:48
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DreamRyderX » 05 Jul 2019, 11:50

hatty wrote:except america's possible future tyrannical government has the best weapons on the fucking planet...........


Yes, such is true, but if you "Actually Read & Comprehend" my prior post you will come to the sudden realization that it's Americans.....American Citizens.....they are the one's that launch the missiles.......that run the tanks.....that fly the worlds most sophisticated fighters...........that have access to the world's best toy-box of weapons, & on a dime they can turn them against the TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT that ordered them used against their fellow Americans............It's part of an American's nature to distrust ALL government.....even their own, & it's that very reason the Second Amendment was inserted within the US Constitution by the American Founding Fathers......Americans have the Right to Keep & Bear Arms not for hunting, not for sporting, but to use their weapons against all manner of foe.....foreign or DOMESTIC........yes, especially their own government!!!!!

Source: Wikipedia
Some philosophers argue that it is not only the right of a people to overthrow an oppressive government but also their duty to do so. Howard Evans Kiefer opines, "It seems to me that the duty to rebel is much more understandable than that right to rebel, because the right to rebellion ruins the order of power, whereas the duty to rebel goes beyond and breaks it."[11]

Morton White writes of the American revolutionaries, "The notion that they had a duty to rebel is extremely important to stress, for it shows that they thought they were complying with the commands of natural law and of nature's God when they threw off absolute despotism."[12] The U.S. Declaration of Independence states that "when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government" (emphasis added). The phrase "long train of abuses" is a reference to John Locke's similar statement in Second Treatise of Government, where he explicitly established overthrow of a tyrant as an obligation. Martin Luther King likewise held that it is the duty of the people to resist unjust laws.


Their duty is to their fellow American's first, not their government.........Americans are taught this from grade school on......it's part of their history....it's part of their nature.........it's part of Being An American!


..
Last edited by DreamRyderX on 05 Jul 2019, 12:03, edited 1 time in total.
The US Constitution is not an instrument for the US Government to restrain the American People,
it is an instrument for the American People to restrain the US Government.
-- Patrick Henry
User avatar
DreamRyderX
Jack Russell
 
Posts: 184
Joined: 14 Jul 2018, 11:45
Location: Victoria, Australia
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby hatty » 05 Jul 2019, 11:58

point missed again.

so.... Your wonderful democracy produced a tyrannical government....... ?

tell me how your shoulder to shoulder backwoods responsible gun owning militia will take on trumps shiny missiles and drones (well the ones he didn't sell to saudi arabia).

and how all the dead kids are worth it
User avatar
hatty
mountain lion
 
Posts: 934
Joined: 30 Apr 2018, 11:48
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DreamRyderX » 05 Jul 2019, 12:21

hatty wrote:point missed again.

so.... Your wonderful democracy produced a tyrannical government....... ?

tell me how your shoulder to shoulder backwoods responsible gun owning militia will take on trumps shiny missiles and drones (well the ones he didn't sell to saudi arabia).

and how all the dead kids are worth it


When those, American Citizens, who the US President, Commander in Chief of ALL the Armed Forces, get word that their Commander wants them to take arms against their fellow Americans, in order to disobey the Second Amendment, by directly infringing upon their Right to Keep & Bear Arms, the US President & his ilk will find themselves at the flash/bang end of their Collective Wrath & the Arms that were made in the USA!!!

If you think otherwise, you do not understand Americans one bit.......Rebellion is an inseparable part of the American being......when it comes to obeying orders, especially orders to usurp American Rights........a resounding NO, HELL NO! is the first response that flows past an Americans lips without hesitation!!!


Image PS.......America IS NOT A DEMOCRACY.......Never Was.......It, from inception, has always been A CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC.......

The American Founding Fathers LOATHED Democracy
Image


..
The US Constitution is not an instrument for the US Government to restrain the American People,
it is an instrument for the American People to restrain the US Government.
-- Patrick Henry
User avatar
DreamRyderX
Jack Russell
 
Posts: 184
Joined: 14 Jul 2018, 11:45
Location: Victoria, Australia
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby Bongalong » 05 Jul 2019, 12:52

hatty wrote:point missed again.

so.... Your wonderful democracy produced a tyrannical government....... ?

tell me how your shoulder to shoulder backwoods responsible gun owning militia will take on trumps shiny missiles and drones (well the ones he didn't sell to saudi arabia).

and how all the dead kids are worth it

Lol hatty the endless biatch demands perfection even tho she cant point out any examples of perfection...

:yak yak :yak yak :bgrin
"Oi!"
Bongalong
Warthog
 
Posts: 2712
Joined: 25 Jun 2018, 11:48
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby hatty » 05 Jul 2019, 12:55

ok ryder enjoy your republic......... oh wait you choose to live here. sorry

still nothing about the body count.

your silence is deafening when it comes to that
User avatar
hatty
mountain lion
 
Posts: 934
Joined: 30 Apr 2018, 11:48
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby Bongalong » 05 Jul 2019, 12:56

hatty wrote:ok ryder enjoy your republic......... oh wait you choose to live here. sorry

still nothing about the body count.

your silence is deafening when it comes to that

lol, hatty thinks he's f'n a whole country up the ass like greggy and mothra and johnny boy lol :zzzz
"Oi!"
Bongalong
Warthog
 
Posts: 2712
Joined: 25 Jun 2018, 11:48
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby hatty » 05 Jul 2019, 13:01

Bongalong wrote:
hatty wrote:ok ryder enjoy your republic......... oh wait you choose to live here. sorry

still nothing about the body count.

your silence is deafening when it comes to that

lol, hatty thinks he's f'n a whole country up the ass like greggy and mothra and johnny boy lol :zzzz



the innocent dead people drah........ and the ease at which they are now dead.

put down your midori and get back on topic.

all the gun victims perhaps?
User avatar
hatty
mountain lion
 
Posts: 934
Joined: 30 Apr 2018, 11:48
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DreamRyderX » 05 Jul 2019, 13:34

hatty wrote:ok ryder enjoy your republic......... oh wait you choose to live here. sorry

still nothing about the body count.

your silence is deafening when it comes to that


Every time I go home Hatty.....every time! Image


1,000 dead bodies ----- 10,000 dead bodies......body counts lend nothing more than a reason for the living to temporarily pause, reflect, & mourn for those fallen that will surely be missed.....but they change nothing, except they redouble our efforts & resolve to continue on.....

I said it before in this thread, & I will say it one more time......

After the mourning has subsided, Americans will always stand up tall, dust themselves off, pay homage to those fallen, & undaunted, they move forward with their Freedoms & Liberties intact, prepared to take on the challenges of whatever might come their way..........never forgetting what has passed......... Image



.........................................Image
The US Constitution is not an instrument for the US Government to restrain the American People,
it is an instrument for the American People to restrain the US Government.
-- Patrick Henry
User avatar
DreamRyderX
Jack Russell
 
Posts: 184
Joined: 14 Jul 2018, 11:45
Location: Victoria, Australia
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby Bongalong » 05 Jul 2019, 16:26

hatty wrote:
Bongalong wrote:
hatty wrote:ok ryder enjoy your republic......... oh wait you choose to live here. sorry

still nothing about the body count.

your silence is deafening when it comes to that

lol, hatty thinks he's f'n a whole country up the ass like greggy and mothra and johnny boy lol :zzzz



the innocent dead people drah........ and the ease at which they are now dead.

put down your midori and get back on topic.

all the gun victims perhaps?

Your culture skulls hard spirits until they accidentally end up on the floor: you're a retarded hypocrite buddy and we all know you hate to admit it :Hi
"Oi!"
Bongalong
Warthog
 
Posts: 2712
Joined: 25 Jun 2018, 11:48
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DreamRyderX » 06 Jul 2019, 16:37

..



.................Police Minister’s Strict Warning
......To Gun Buyback Participants



Source: The Mike Hosking Breakfast Talk Show
The Police Minister says people should follow the letter of the law when it comes to the new gun buyback scheme. There have been concerns around people choosing not to hand in their guns because they're concerned about the price they'll get. Stuart Nash told Mike Hosking the penalties for doing this would be severe. “Those who hold on to the now-illegal guns and disobey the law face up to five years in jail.” Nash says if a gun owner disputes the price, they can't leave again without handing the gun in. At this stage, Nash says he has no idea how many guns will be handed in, because there is no register of any kind.


I listened to the interview, & in no uncertain terms, Police Minister Stuart Nash said that if a law-abiding gun owner brings in their firearm(s) in in good faith, but is unhappy with the price the government is willing to "buy-back" the firearm(s) for, the law-abiding gun owner will have the firearm(s) confiscated right then & there.....on the spot, & the law-abiding gun owner will hear from the government in the future how much he will be getting for his firearm(s). The Minister left no doubt that regardless of how the law-abiding gun owner might feel about the government's offer & the entire encounter, the law-abiding gun owner will not be leaving with his firearm(s)............period!

I can see that not going down all to well, & it sounds like the government is tempting to turn this issue into very precarious confrontations with the People! Image

You can listen to the interview here for yourself. Image See what you think...Image

......................AUDIO RECORDING LINK......Middle click to open it in a new tab.





..
The US Constitution is not an instrument for the US Government to restrain the American People,
it is an instrument for the American People to restrain the US Government.
-- Patrick Henry
User avatar
DreamRyderX
Jack Russell
 
Posts: 184
Joined: 14 Jul 2018, 11:45
Location: Victoria, Australia
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DreamRyderX » 11 Jul 2019, 16:07

..


.......................Image



" The public survey shows that only seven per cent of gun owners are ready to surrender their property. Thousands of Kiwis see through the smoke-screen........ "

At that rate of "surrender", with an estimated 250,000 to 300,000 illegal firearms still not surrendered, over 200,000 would remain outstanding at the final count...... ImageImageImage

The Police are talking hardball (not a good move being they would be out-manned if push came to shove), & the gun owners are becoming increasingly furious at how they are being treated, we have the makings of a massive, armed insurrection, where nobody would win. Seems to me the government officials & the police aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer! Image



https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/114127400/gun-owners-crowdfund-to-take-legal-action-against-governments-firearms-laws

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12248287


..
Last edited by DreamRyderX on 11 Jul 2019, 16:31, edited 2 times in total.
The US Constitution is not an instrument for the US Government to restrain the American People,
it is an instrument for the American People to restrain the US Government.
-- Patrick Henry
User avatar
DreamRyderX
Jack Russell
 
Posts: 184
Joined: 14 Jul 2018, 11:45
Location: Victoria, Australia
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DonDeeHippy » 11 Jul 2019, 16:16

DreamRyderX wrote:..



" The public survey shows that only seven per cent of gun owners are ready to surrender their property. Thousands of Kiwis see through the smoke-screen........ "

At that rate of "surrender", with an estimated 250,000 to 300,000 illegal firearms still not surrendered, over 200,000 would remain outstanding at the final count...... ImageImageImage

The Police are talking hardball (not a good move being they would be out-manned if push came to shove), & the gun owners are becoming increasingly furious at how they are being treated, we have the makings of a massive, armed insurrection, where nobody would win. Seems to me the government officials & the police aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer! Image



https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/114127400/gun-owners-crowdfund-to-take-legal-action-against-governments-firearms-laws


..

what public survey ? there is no reference to it and nothing comes up with google.....be nice to see what the actual survey said :purple
Bongalong... for some reason women are just so superior to anything that ever existed or will ever exist!
User avatar
DonDeeHippy
Jaguar
 
Posts: 1526
Joined: 25 Apr 2018, 20:18
spamone: Animal

Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby johnsmith » 11 Jul 2019, 17:47

DreamRyderX wrote:
When those, American Citizens, who the US President, Commander in Chief of ALL the Armed Forces, get word that their Commander wants them to take arms against their fellow Americans, in order to disobey the Second Amendment, by directly infringing upon their Right to Keep & Bear Arms, the US President & his ilk will find themselves at the flash/bang end of their Collective Wrath & the Arms that were made in the USA!!!

If you think otherwise, you do not understand Americans one bit.......Rebellion is an inseparable part of the American being......when it comes to obeying orders, especially orders to usurp American Rights........a resounding NO, HELL NO! is the first response that flows past an Americans lips without hesitation!!!


so, in essence, if you have a glock to protect yourself against cruise missiles, the commanders of the armed forces will refuse because they don't want to kill their own citizens, but if you have no guns they'll be happy to kill Americans?


the sort of logic one can only get from a gun nut :WTF :WTF
FD.
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
User avatar
johnsmith
Mastodon
 
Posts: 8548
Joined: 25 Sep 2017, 21:39
spamone: Animal

PreviousNext

Return to Politics

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest