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New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DreamRyderX » 03 Jul 2019, 18:06

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.......New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...
.......................KIWIS Stick To THEIR Guns!!!



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Source: The American Thinker
The figures are in for New Zealand's "voluntary" gun "amnesty," and, well, anyone who understands gun ownership shouldn't be surprised.

In a nation with 150,000 gun permits and an estimated 1.5 million guns in circulation, the number of actual military-style weapons turned in is...530.

Obviously, not everyone in New Zealand is onboard with the country's hastily thrown together new law to expropriate weapons in the name of protection from mass shootings. What that utterly miserable "530" figure shows is mass resistance, in response to the complete stupidity of blaming a mass shooting on the gun, not the foreign terrorist using the gun. That's what New Zealand's lefty parliament came up with in the wake of a hideous mass shooting at a Christchurch mosque last March by an Australian national. Instead of enacting legislation to, say, keep the likes of this nut out of their country, the Kiwis decided to target New Zealand's gun-owners in what was abusively called an "amnesty," suggesting they were the ones who did something wrong. With turn-ins amounting to a rounding error, it's obvious they're resisting.

When the gun grab was first announced, the press mendaciously reported that Kiwis were all in for this kind of expropriation and heaped tons of praise on the national character. An Agence France-Presse piece that ran in gun-controlled Singapore had particularly dishonest coverage here.

Now the news, delicately expressed by Stuff.co.nz, is that the rest of the gun-owners "might not surrender them." With a grand total of 530 in the hopper, ya think?

The press is reporting that the owners are awaiting compensation information, which apparently the first turn-ins don't qualify for, but even that has an "off" smell to it. According to Stuff.co.nz:

The Secretary of the Council of Licensed Firearm Owners, Nicole McKee, told NewstalkZB, the Government hasn't communicated their plans for prices for the buyback.

"If they are being serious about their considerations and ensuring that there is fair and reasonable compensation, then firearm owners will wait a bit longer to make sure it is just and it is fair when it is received."

Umm, what happens if it's not just and fair, lady? When you have government telling you what it will pay for your gun, you don't have any say-so in whether the price is just or fair. This sounds as though she's trying to deflect the issue.

What's far more indicative, in fact, is that a one-day petition calling on the Legislature to think it through and not act hastily drew an instant 15,000-plus signatures. The dishonest AFP report claimed that those opposing the gun grab were from "the fringe element." Gotcha.

What we are seeing here is the folly of hastily enacted gun control in response to a traumatic event. Guns in New Zealand have never been the problem for the place. According to Nationmaster, New Zealand actually has more crime per capita than the U.S., but it has far less violent gun crime, which doesn't suggest that the problem there is gun-owners. When I think of New Zealand crime, it's usually a matter of how teenagers can get into trouble, or how trashy some characters can be. But it's not the doing of people who own guns and who use them responsibly. Now the gun control legislation is flashing big signals that it's not working. According to Stuff.co.nz, citing something more serious than activist press releases, the picture looks like this:

However, police are anticipating a number of people with banned firearms in their possession won't surrender them, according to documents obtained by Stuff in an OIA.

The result? The gun grab is a disaster. Not only does it falsely blame New Zealand's gentle, civil, rural, gun-oriented culture for the act of a foreign misfit, who shouldn't have been let into the country in the first place, it now is leading to mass resistance. With one in four Kiwis believed to be gun-owners, according to the reports, as much as a quarter of the nation have become outlaws.

Kiwis are choosing this over the left's hasty gun grab, knowing that the full issue is about defending oneself, particularly in rural settings, and maintaining the New Zealand way of life. If the government wants to destroy that, which it does, well, then a nation of outlaws is the logical outcome.





" The protectionist attitude of taking guns from law abiding citizens to keep guns from criminals is ineffective, self-serving, one-sided and ignores the benefits of an armed society as well as history. And, it only serves to further the oppression of those who cannot defend themselves.

While it would certainly be an amazing thought to be able to live in a world without guns, that is simply not the case. Until it is the case, anyone who wants to defend themselves and their family, should be able to do so in any manner they see fit — as the only other option is oppressive tyranny. "
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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby johnsmith » 03 Jul 2019, 18:08

how many military weapons are in circulation in NZ?
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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby HBS Guy » 03 Jul 2019, 18:14

Yeah—it is not every gun they are after.
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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DreamRyderX » 03 Jul 2019, 18:32

HBS Guy wrote:Yeah—it is not every gun they are after.


No, not "each & every" gun, just "All military-style semi-automatic weapons.........."
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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby Aussie » 03 Jul 2019, 18:33

johnsmith wrote:how many military weapons are in circulation in NZ?


I doubt they know.

Mr Ryder......those to whom your Article is referring are waiting to see what the compensation package is.....not an absolute refusal.
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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DreamRyderX » 03 Jul 2019, 19:01

Aussie wrote:
johnsmith wrote:how many military weapons are in circulation in NZ?


I doubt they know.

Mr Ryder......those to whom your Article is referring are waiting to see what the compensation package is.....not an absolute refusal.



Source: The New Zealand Herald
.........There are around 250,000 licenced firearm holders in New Zealand and it's estimated as many as 300,000 guns could now be illegal..........


So the media seem to say, but.........Estimated 300,000 illegal guns......only 550 turned in.......How many of those 250,000 license holders did the supposed poll, if one were actually taken, cover?

See if you can find a link anywhere......
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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby Aussie » 03 Jul 2019, 19:20

Estimations, guesstimations. But, I agree...many are holding off waiting to get the details of the compensation package.

If you think NZ is gonna be an exemplar for US gun laws, you are sadly mistaken.
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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby johnsmith » 03 Jul 2019, 19:20

DreamRyderX wrote:
Aussie wrote:
johnsmith wrote:how many military weapons are in circulation in NZ?


I doubt they know.

Mr Ryder......those to whom your Article is referring are waiting to see what the compensation package is.....not an absolute refusal.



Source: The New Zealand Herald
.........There are around 250,000 licenced firearm holders in New Zealand and it's estimated as many as 300,000 guns could now be illegal..........


So the media seem to say, but.........Estimated 300,000 illegal guns......only 550 turned in.......How many of those 250,000 license holders did the supposed poll, if one were actually taken, cover?

See if you can find a link anywhere......


estimated? :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Based on what? the number of hairs on their head?

for all anyone knows they only have 530 military grade weapons. But this article was probably written by the someone working for the NRA, so as is typical with them, facts are few and far between.
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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DreamRyderX » 03 Jul 2019, 19:35

johnsmith wrote:
DreamRyderX wrote:
Aussie wrote:
johnsmith wrote:how many military weapons are in circulation in NZ?


I doubt they know.

Mr Ryder......those to whom your Article is referring are waiting to see what the compensation package is.....not an absolute refusal.



Source: The New Zealand Herald
.........There are around 250,000 licenced firearm holders in New Zealand and it's estimated as many as 300,000 guns could now be illegal..........


So the media seem to say, but.........Estimated 300,000 illegal guns......only 550 turned in.......How many of those 250,000 license holders did the supposed poll, if one were actually taken, cover?

See if you can find a link anywhere......


estimated? :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Based on what? the number of hairs on their head?

for all anyone knows they only have 530 military grade weapons. But this article was probably written by the someone working for the NRA, so as is typical with them, facts are few and far between.


Estimated per the New Zealand Herald.....not the New York Times, or the New York Daily News.......the New Zealand Herald.....you take your doubts up with them.......it's their home, not mine.........BTW.....Military Style, not Military Grade......the AR-15 is not Military Grade, it's just scary black, with rails for accessories, & looks scary military........Military - STYLE
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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby johnsmith » 03 Jul 2019, 19:45

DreamRyderX wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
DreamRyderX wrote:
Aussie wrote:
johnsmith wrote:how many military weapons are in circulation in NZ?


I doubt they know.

Mr Ryder......those to whom your Article is referring are waiting to see what the compensation package is.....not an absolute refusal.



Source: The New Zealand Herald
.........There are around 250,000 licenced firearm holders in New Zealand and it's estimated as many as 300,000 guns could now be illegal..........


So the media seem to say, but.........Estimated 300,000 illegal guns......only 550 turned in.......How many of those 250,000 license holders did the supposed poll, if one were actually taken, cover?

See if you can find a link anywhere......


estimated? :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Based on what? the number of hairs on their head?

for all anyone knows they only have 530 military grade weapons. But this article was probably written by the someone working for the NRA, so as is typical with them, facts are few and far between.


Estimated per the New Zealand Herald.....not the New York Times, or the New York Daily News.......the New Zealand Herald.....you take your doubts up with them.......it's their home, not mine.........BTW.....Military Style, not Military Grade......the AR-15 is not Military Grade, it's just scary black, with rails for accessories, & looks scary military........Military - STYLE



a guess is a guess is a guess ... no matter who makes it. :roll
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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DreamRyderX » 03 Jul 2019, 20:13

johnsmith wrote:
DreamRyderX wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
DreamRyderX wrote:
Aussie wrote:
johnsmith wrote:how many military weapons are in circulation in NZ?


I doubt they know.

Mr Ryder......those to whom your Article is referring are waiting to see what the compensation package is.....not an absolute refusal.



Source: The New Zealand Herald
.........There are around 250,000 licenced firearm holders in New Zealand and it's estimated as many as 300,000 guns could now be illegal..........


So the media seem to say, but.........Estimated 300,000 illegal guns......only 550 turned in.......How many of those 250,000 license holders did the supposed poll, if one were actually taken, cover?

See if you can find a link anywhere......


estimated? :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Based on what? the number of hairs on their head?

for all anyone knows they only have 530 military grade weapons. But this article was probably written by the someone working for the NRA, so as is typical with them, facts are few and far between.


Estimated per the New Zealand Herald.....not the New York Times, or the New York Daily News.......the New Zealand Herald.....you take your doubts up with them.......it's their home, not mine.........BTW.....Military Style, not Military Grade......the AR-15 is not Military Grade, it's just scary black, with rails for accessories, & looks scary military........Military - STYLE



a guess is a guess is a guess ... no matter who makes it. :roll


You might be right......I guess NZ doesn't require registration of firearms. I thought otherwise.....Go figure.....are you sure?

In the USA you would have to guess.....really guess, because there is no registration database.....it's illegal for the government to keep one......& you don't need a license to own firearms in the USA.....except machine guns (fully automatics)........in America they estimate.....based on manufacture's records on the numbers produced, & put up for sale........they estimate between 15,000,000 to 25,000,000 AR-15 Style Sporting Rifles are owned by an estimated 20,000,000 gun owners......so you'd have to guess who owns them, how many are there, & where are they kept.........Image .....PS.....I think they also estimate about 6 - 10 billion rounds of ammunition for those Sporting Rifles too, but as you say a guess is a guess, is a guess..... Image
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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby hatty » 04 Jul 2019, 10:19

DreamRyderX wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
DreamRyderX wrote:
Aussie wrote:
johnsmith wrote:how many military weapons are in circulation in NZ?


I doubt they know.

Mr Ryder......those to whom your Article is referring are waiting to see what the compensation package is.....not an absolute refusal.



Source: The New Zealand Herald
.........There are around 250,000 licenced firearm holders in New Zealand and it's estimated as many as 300,000 guns could now be illegal..........


So the media seem to say, but.........Estimated 300,000 illegal guns......only 550 turned in.......How many of those 250,000 license holders did the supposed poll, if one were actually taken, cover?

See if you can find a link anywhere......


estimated? :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Based on what? the number of hairs on their head?

for all anyone knows they only have 530 military grade weapons. But this article was probably written by the someone working for the NRA, so as is typical with them, facts are few and far between.


Estimated per the New Zealand Herald.....not the New York Times, or the New York Daily News.......the New Zealand Herald.....you take your doubts up with them.......it's their home, not mine.........BTW.....Military Style, not Military Grade......the AR-15 is not Military Grade, it's just scary black, with rails for accessories, & looks scary military........Military - STYLE


tell that to the little bright eyed kids at sandy hook..... i don't think those dead little children gave a fuck about how scary bad ass black and military style the rifle was......... that spread their little brains across the walls. :oops
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Postby DonDeeHippy » 04 Jul 2019, 10:38

When the Australian laws came in, Australia had a shortage of 150mm (6in) pvc pipe for about 9 months, they figured there are a lot of buried guns here..... Not everyone was happy with the laws.... :purple
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Postby hatty » 04 Jul 2019, 10:53

DonDeeHippy wrote:When the Australian laws came in, Australia had a shortage of 150mm (6in) pvc pipe for about 9 months, they figured there are a lot of buried guns here..... Not everyone was happy with the laws.... :purple


of course i don't doubt it.

i just like the part when the mass shootings stopped.

i dont' mind that firearms have been buried for when the zombie or possum apocalypse arrives...... never have been. Its just that guns in mums purses seems a wee bit excessive...... only needed because old mate in the 7-11 just might be packing too.
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Postby DreamRyderX » 04 Jul 2019, 11:19

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......................New Zealand Struggles to Buy Back Automatic Weapons

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Source: The Washington Examiner
New Zealand is struggling to enforce its new gun legislation more than three months after the massacres at Christchurch.

The country passed legislation banning nearly all forms of semi-automatic weapons and military-style weapons in the wake of the anti-Muslim attack that killed 50 people.

According to the Washington Post, opposition from pro-gun groups as well as an inability to properly track the weapons has made this law harder to enforce.

The country has no national registry, making it incredibly difficult to track which weapons need to be bought back as previous gun laws did not require AR-15s to be entered into police databases, making it almost impossible to track how many exist and how many need to be bought back. More than 1.2 million guns are estimated to be in New Zealand.

Pro-gun groups in New Zealand are also mounting opposition to the new laws. The Council of Licensed Firearm Owners said the organization had been "preparing for the inevitable backlash" after the attacks, and that the government must provide "fair compensation" if guns are bought back or taken away.



Nice, but when has a Firearms "Buyback" ever, ever been "voluntary"?? .......sure you can disagree that the "fair compensation" isn't fair.....& respectfully hold out for a better "offer"........ but, what happens next.....the goose steppin' police state enforcers, heavily armed & sportin' bullet proof vests & helmets, come through your front door, & gently charm your pride & joy from your feeble hands.... Image .... Riiiiiiihgt!

Another thing "Buyback"........the government never sold the firearms to you......so how can they say they're buyin' 'em back???

NZ has a bit of a dilemma facing it. Just like in the USA, they didn't require registration of the AR-15s ..... so how can they confiscate ± 200,000 semi-automatic firearms they don't know the location of, or who has possession of them?

Door to door confiscations are the only way without a National Registration Database (why it's illegal in the USA), & that can get, a little like it would be in the USA, that might very well get "bloody".....very bloody!

NZ'ers aren't as obedient & docile as Australians, so don't expect an orderly procession of gun drop-offs like 1996. Image

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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby Dax » 04 Jul 2019, 11:46

DreamRyderX wrote:..


......................New Zealand Struggles to Buy Back Automatic Weapons

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Source: The Washington Examiner
New Zealand is struggling to enforce its new gun legislation more than three months after the massacres at Christchurch.

The country passed legislation banning nearly all forms of semi-automatic weapons and military-style weapons in the wake of the anti-Muslim attack that killed 50 people.

According to the Washington Post, opposition from pro-gun groups as well as an inability to properly track the weapons has made this law harder to enforce.

The country has no national registry, making it incredibly difficult to track which weapons need to be bought back as previous gun laws did not require AR-15s to be entered into police databases, making it almost impossible to track how many exist and how many need to be bought back. More than 1.2 million guns are estimated to be in New Zealand.

Pro-gun groups in New Zealand are also mounting opposition to the new laws. The Council of Licensed Firearm Owners said the organization had been "preparing for the inevitable backlash" after the attacks, and that the government must provide "fair compensation" if guns are bought back or taken away.



Nice, but when has a Firearms "Buyback" ever, ever been "voluntary"?? .......sure you can disagree that the "fair compensation" isn't fair.....& respectfully hold out for a better "offer"........ but, what happens next.....the goose steppin' police state enforcers, heavily armed & sportin' bullet proof vests & helmets, come through your front door, & gently charm your pride & joy from your feeble hands.... Image .... Riiiiiiihgt!

Another thing "Buyback"........the government never sold the firearms to you......so how can they say they're buyin' 'em back???

NZ has a bit of a dilemma facing it. Just like in the USA, they didn't require registration of the AR-15s ..... so how can they confiscate ± 200,000 semi-automatic firearms they don't know the location of, or who has possession of them?

Door to door confiscations are the only way without a National Registration Database (why it's illegal in the USA), & that can get, a little like it would be in the USA, that might very well get "bloody".....very bloody!

NZ'ers aren't as obedient & docile as Australians, so don't expect an orderly procession of gun drop-offs like 1996. Image



You know nothing abut Aus as usual, perfectly understandable coming from a yank. Before the buy back here, guns were not registered, so there was no way they would know how many auto guns there were in Aus. As usual you try to insult us, with your pathetic attempts to belittle what are sensible logical people, that decided to turn their semi auto guns in, for the betterment and safety of the country. Which is the opposite to the USA, where safety doesn't exist in your insane gun culture.

Obedient and docile, hilarious, you cant class a peo9ploe who are free, relatively safe, have the best society on the planet, don't take shit from anyone and are renowned as the best per capita defence force on the planet, which punches above it's weight constantly. Which is why the USA always called upon us to support their insane warmongering ventures and get better results with our small contributions, than yanks with their massive resources and constant balls ups.

NZ, will get it together, once they release the details of their buyback scheme and many will hand their guns in. Crims and idiots will do the opposite, which is par for the course in any country.
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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DreamRyderX » 04 Jul 2019, 12:16

Dax wrote:
DreamRyderX wrote:..


......................New Zealand Struggles to Buy Back Automatic Weapons

......................................Image


Source: The Washington Examiner
New Zealand is struggling to enforce its new gun legislation more than three months after the massacres at Christchurch.

The country passed legislation banning nearly all forms of semi-automatic weapons and military-style weapons in the wake of the anti-Muslim attack that killed 50 people.

According to the Washington Post, opposition from pro-gun groups as well as an inability to properly track the weapons has made this law harder to enforce.

The country has no national registry, making it incredibly difficult to track which weapons need to be bought back as previous gun laws did not require AR-15s to be entered into police databases, making it almost impossible to track how many exist and how many need to be bought back. More than 1.2 million guns are estimated to be in New Zealand.

Pro-gun groups in New Zealand are also mounting opposition to the new laws. The Council of Licensed Firearm Owners said the organization had been "preparing for the inevitable backlash" after the attacks, and that the government must provide "fair compensation" if guns are bought back or taken away.



Nice, but when has a Firearms "Buyback" ever, ever been "voluntary"?? .......sure you can disagree that the "fair compensation" isn't fair.....& respectfully hold out for a better "offer"........ but, what happens next.....the goose steppin' police state enforcers, heavily armed & sportin' bullet proof vests & helmets, come through your front door, & gently charm your pride & joy from your feeble hands.... Image .... Riiiiiiihgt!

Another thing "Buyback"........the government never sold the firearms to you......so how can they say they're buyin' 'em back???

NZ has a bit of a dilemma facing it. Just like in the USA, they didn't require registration of the AR-15s ..... so how can they confiscate ± 200,000 semi-automatic firearms they don't know the location of, or who has possession of them?

Door to door confiscations are the only way without a National Registration Database (why it's illegal in the USA), & that can get, a little like it would be in the USA, that might very well get "bloody".....very bloody!

NZ'ers aren't as obedient & docile as Australians, so don't expect an orderly procession of gun drop-offs like 1996. Image



ImageImageImageImage ..........NZ, will get it together, once they release the details of their buyback scheme and many will hand their guns in. Crims and idiots will do the opposite, which is par for the course in any country.


George Washington didn't use his Freedom of Speech to defeat the British....no, he & his American Patriots used the firearms the British wanted to confiscate from them, & they shot the British very dead with those same firearms.
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Postby hatty » 04 Jul 2019, 12:19

And still....... nothing about all the current day dead people........ from all the gun lovers.

or victims...... ahhh that's right they unfortunately don't have a voice CAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING DEAD GUN VICTIMS

you know....... all the dead people.

yeah can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs i suppose?
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hatty wrote:And still....... nothing about all the current day dead people........ from all the gun lovers.

or victims...... ahhh that's right they unfortunately don't have a voice CAUSE THEY ARE FUCKING DEAD GUN VICTIMS

you know....... all the dead people.

yeah can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs i suppose?


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Postby hatty » 04 Jul 2019, 12:34

congrats ryder........

now cheer as they start more bullshit wars.....

sell more heartache and misery to isis for nothing but money and proceed to brag about it

god bless america!
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hatty wrote:congrats ryder........

now cheer as they start more bullshit wars.....

sell more heartache and misery to isis for nothing but money and proceed to brag about it


god bless america!



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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby hatty » 04 Jul 2019, 12:55

DreamRyderX wrote:
hatty wrote:congrats ryder........

now cheer as they start more bullshit wars.....

sell more heartache and misery to isis for nothing but money and proceed to brag about it

god bless america!



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gee thanks says the wealthy white people....... fuck everyone else
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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DreamRyderX » 04 Jul 2019, 13:04

hatty wrote:
DreamRyderX wrote:
hatty wrote:congrats ryder........

now cheer as they start more bullshit wars.....

sell more heartache and misery to isis for nothing but money and proceed to brag about it

god bless america!



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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

gee thanks says the wealthy white people....... fuck everyone else


Don't be so outwardly envious Hatty........'tis a Grand Day! ..... God Bless the USA ..... Happy 4th of July!!!

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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby hatty » 04 Jul 2019, 13:07

happy 4th july ryder mate ..... we have differences of opinions but enjoy the day.

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but new zealand looks alright to me
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Re: New Zealanders Disobey Gun Ban - Keep Semi-Automatics...

Postby DreamRyderX » 04 Jul 2019, 13:20

hatty wrote:happy 4th july ryder mate ..... we have differences of opinions but enjoy the day.

/serious

but new zealand looks alright to me


Thanks mate......As I stare out over the lovely Australian trees & paddocks today, Over This Beautiful Land.....

...................May God Smile Upon, & Bless Our Australia as well.......Ain't She Grand!!


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