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SHY got Gillarded

Postby mothra » 04 Jul 2018, 19:45

David Leyonhjelm's comments to Sarah Hanson-Young continue parliament's history of sexist abuse

In one foul-mouthed phrase, Senator David Leyonhjelm has turned a debate about the safety of women into a sleazy political sideshow.

Claiming — without a shred of factual support — that he had interpreted Senator Sarah Hanson-Young as having said words to the effect of "all men are rapists", Senator Leyonhjelm called across the chamber that she should "stop shagging men". Confronted by her afterwards, he told her to "f*** off".

It is one more example of the debasement of political debate in Australia, aided and abetted by elements of the media, in this case Sky News. Its Outsiders panel of Rowan Dean and Ross Cameron gave Senator Leyonhjelm a platform on which he repeated his offensive remarks, and sat back obligingly while he did so.

Only when the network was deluged with complaints did Cameron apologise for the pair of them, and the network took its own action — suspending not Dean and Cameron but the nameless and faceless young female producer who put up a caption at the foot of the screen bearing Leyonhjelm's words.

Sexism ramped up with Gillard

Sexism and sexual innuendo are nothing new in politics. Cheryl Kernot, one-time leader of the Australian Democrats who had an affair with Labor foreign affairs minister Gareth Evans and defected to Labor in the late 1990s, was the butt of some crude slanging on the floor of the parliament.

But since June 24, 2010, when Julia Gillard deposed Kevin Rudd as Labor prime minister, these phenomena seem to have become palpably worse.

The reasons are necessarily speculative, but over the intervening eight years there have been a series of developments that might help to explain it.

One has been the explosive arrival of social media and its adoption as a tool of propaganda by all who want to make themselves heard, regardless of taste, harm or substance. Facebook, launched in 2004, went global in 2006, the same year Twitter was launched. YouTube appeared in 2005, Instagram in 2010 (acquired by Facebook in 2012) and Snapchat in 2011.

Whatever benefits they have brought — and there are many — they have also brought trolling.

It was gross in its extremism and vulgarity. Much of it was crude pornography. There was incitement to violence and unbridled misogyny.

Research by Anne Summers for her 2012 Human Rights and Social Justice Lecture at the University of Newcastle, revealed just how vile this online assault became.

The poison seeped out into the wider public discourse, where inevitably elements of the mainstream media magnified it.

Notable contributors to this were commercial radio talkback shlock jock Alan Jones, Ray Hadley and Chris Smith.

Their depictions of, and remarks about, Ms Gillard were disgustingly offensive. Not only were they sexist, extremist and malicious, but in Jones's case involved encouragement of the idea the prime minister should be dumped at sea.

And then, of course, there was the infamous question about the sexual orientation of the prime minister's partner.

Portrayals of Ms Gillard by other elements of the mainstream media, especially the newspapers, were generally less grotesque, but raised important ethical issues just the same.

The most common, and in some ways the most difficult to pin down, concerned the passively neutral way in which they covered the grossly disrespectful public attacks on her, just as Dean and Cameron did on Sunday.

An egregious example was the coverage of the rally outside Parliament House in 2011 when the leader of the opposition, Tony Abbott, gave legitimacy to sentiments such as "ditch the witch" and "bitch" by allowing himself to be photographed in front of placards bearing those words.

A #metoo backlash?

A more recent development, also made possible by the internet, has been the rise of the #metoo movement, in which women who previously felt powerless to speak out about sexual harassment are now doing so, bringing down some powerful men such as Harvey Weinstein in the process.

This has produced a backlash consisting of a complicated mix of male dubiety about the exact nature of sexual harassment and irritation by some feminists at what they see as an apparent weakening of women's agency.

The fact there is a backlash at all doubtless encourages those who wish to say that attention to sexual harassment is overdone, and we should get back to a bit of good old-fashioned slagging of the kind epitomised by Senator Leyonhjelm's remarks.

Media the new Wild West?

A further factor might be that the boundaries of privacy have shifted, so sexual references that would have been deemed off limits a decade ago are now shared on social media. Perhaps this is having a desensitising effect on standards of public taste.

Trends in public standards influence editorial decision-making. Stories are published that previously might not have been, or might have been toned down.

As professional mass media try to keep pace with developments in social media, editors may feel they will be left behind if they don't swiftly adapt to these changing mores and become more libertarian in their decision-making.

In these ways, boundaries in public taste and decency shift over time. However, Senator Leyonhjelm has clearly put himself beyond the pale. Sky News obviously recognised this and felt an apology was necessary, even if the independent senator himself does not.

The bigger picture of disrespect

Meanwhile, it is sobering to reflect on the worst consequences of disrespectful attitudes to women. The shocking rape and murder of Eurydice Dixon in Melbourne last month — which gave rise to the debate in which Senator Leyonhjelm made his disgraceful interjection — has rightly led to an outpouring of community outrage and grief.

The 2018 report of the Australian Domestic and Family Violence Death Review Network, which draws on data from all the coroners' courts in Australia, stated that between July 1, 2010 and June 30, 2014 there were 152 intimate partner homicides across Australia that followed an identifiable history of domestic violence.

Of these, 121, or 79.6 per cent, were women killed by men.


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Re: SHY got Gillarded

Postby HBS Guy » 04 Jul 2018, 20:02

SHY does not have anywhere near Gillard’s strengths or intellect.
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Re: SHY got Gillarded

Postby mothra » 04 Jul 2018, 20:04

HBS Guy wrote:SHY does not have anywhere near Gillard’s strengths or intellect.


Not meaning, of course, that she is any less susceptible to the blatant sexism inherent in the system.
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Re: SHY got Gillarded

Postby johnsmith » 04 Jul 2018, 20:07

Leyonhjelm should be thrown out of parliament. If he was doing any other job and said that, he would have been sacked on the spot
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Re: SHY got Gillarded

Postby mothra » 04 Jul 2018, 20:18

johnsmith wrote:Leyonhjelm should be thrown out of parliament. If he was doing any other job and said that, he would have been sacked on the spot


Did you hear his outrageous conditions upon which he would apologise?

The man is pond slime.
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Re: SHY got Gillarded

Postby johnsmith » 04 Jul 2018, 20:20

mothra wrote:
johnsmith wrote:Leyonhjelm should be thrown out of parliament. If he was doing any other job and said that, he would have been sacked on the spot


Did you hear his outrageous conditions upon which he would apologise?

The man is pond slime.


he's digging in because he got a few 'atta boys' from people like bernardi and mutton
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Re: SHY got Gillarded

Postby pinkeye » 04 Jul 2018, 23:50

yes.. unfortunately, this shows that some men in power, be it political, or media, believe that they can say whatever they like, and refuse to rescind, or apologise. we hear their rubbish everyday.. (we , as in many Australians, because I don't listen to the cunts).. and it has seeped into the Australian psyche.
These shlock jock are symptoms of a much wider disease.

Imagine the furore if Senator HansenYoung had yelled out across the chamber to Leyonhelm.? something like..? ???? (…………….)

Add your own invective please.


A very big rift remains in Australian politics, and therefore, as a reflection, in Australian society generally.
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Re: SHY got Gillarded

Postby mothra » 05 Jul 2018, 14:17

pinkeye wrote:yes.. unfortunately, this shows that some men in power, be it political, or media, believe that they can say whatever they like, and refuse to rescind, or apologise. we hear their rubbish everyday.. (we , as in many Australians, because I don't listen to the cunts).. and it has seeped into the Australian psyche.
These shlock jock are symptoms of a much wider disease.

Imagine the furore if Senator HansenYoung had yelled out across the chamber to Leyonhelm.? something like..? ???? (…………….)

Add your own invective please.


A very big rift remains in Australian politics, and therefore, as a reflection, in Australian society generally.


Well said.
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Re: SHY got Gillarded

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Re: SHY got Gillarded

Postby MilesAway » 05 Jul 2018, 14:29

mothra wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:SHY does not have anywhere near Gillard’s strengths or intellect.


Not meaning, of course, that she is any less susceptible to the blatant sexism inherent in the system.

Fo witch! :buddy
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Re: SHY got Gillarded

Postby MilesAway » 05 Jul 2018, 14:30

johnsmith wrote:Leyonhjelm should be thrown out of parliament. If he was doing any other job and said that, he would have been sacked on the spot

So women can just blame all men for crimes they didn't commit: yay, go Victoria and the cesspit we left to the idiot pizza makers :bike :bike
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Re: SHY got Gillarded

Postby MilesAway » 05 Jul 2018, 14:31

mothra wrote:
johnsmith wrote:Leyonhjelm should be thrown out of parliament. If he was doing any other job and said that, he would have been sacked on the spot


Did you hear his outrageous conditions upon which he would apologise?

The man is pond slime.

You're just a stinky stench of slime :OMG
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Re: SHY got Gillarded

Postby MilesAway » 05 Jul 2018, 14:31

johnsmith wrote:
mothra wrote:
johnsmith wrote:Leyonhjelm should be thrown out of parliament. If he was doing any other job and said that, he would have been sacked on the spot


Did you hear his outrageous conditions upon which he would apologise?

The man is pond slime.


he's digging in because he got a few 'atta boys' from people like bernardi and mutton

Lol, you're a putrid and disgusting joke of a pretend man bruther!
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Re: SHY got Gillarded

Postby MilesAway » 05 Jul 2018, 14:32

pinkeye wrote:yes.. unfortunately, this shows that some men in power, be it political, or media, believe that they can say whatever they like, and refuse to rescind, or apologise. we hear their rubbish everyday.. (we , as in many Australians, because I don't listen to the cunts).. and it has seeped into the Australian psyche.
These shlock jock are symptoms of a much wider disease.

Imagine the furore if Senator HansenYoung had yelled out across the chamber to Leyonhelm.? something like..? ???? (…………….)

Add your own invective please.


A very big rift remains in Australian politics, and therefore, as a reflection, in Australian society generally.

lol, the metho drinker chimes in because :tweed :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh :huh
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