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10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby mothra » 23 Mar 2018, 10:06

At-risk Nauru refugee boy 'receiving medical care' in Australia after judge's order

A judge found the boy was a suicide risk and could not be properly treated on Nauru, despite Home Affairs minister Peter Dutton arguing the child should remain on the island

A 10-year-old boy is in Australia receiving medical care after a federal court judge ordered the young Iranian refugee’s urgent transfer from Nauru.

Justice Nye Perram ordered the boy and his mother be sent to Australia on the “next plane out of Nauru” on March 7 after concluding the child was facing a “significant present risk of suicide”.

Lawyers for the National Justice Project, which brought the successful case, told SBS News the pair was now in Australia and the boy was receiving “medical treatment”.

The lawyers would not disclose which city the boy was in or any further details, citing privacy concerns.

The boy and his mother have been found to be genuine refugees by the government of Nauru and were living in an Australian-funded camp on the island.

The boy had already tried to kill himself three times, the court found.

Lawyers for the Home Affairs department and minister Peter Dutton argued there were adequate health care options on the island.

But the judge concluded the boy was suffering from a “serious mental illness” and could not be “adequately treated... or really treated at all” on Nauru since the departure of Dr Vernon Reynolds, a child psychiatrist who was working on the island on behalf of private healthcare provider IHMS, contracted by the Australian government.

Dr Reynolds’ own report to the court recommended the transfer, saying medical staff on Nauru did “not have the ability” to provide the specialist care needed.

The boy also suffers from a long-running physical health problem that requires surgery.

Lawyers for Mr Dutton said the surgery could be completed on Nauru, but the judge rejected that argument.

“Although the hospital at Nauru is said to be able to fix that problem two of its patients died as a result of the actions of the anaesthetist on the island who was then arrested,” the judge wrote in his judgement.

The boy’s father suffered a brain injury from a “serious” bicycle accident was himself transferred to Australia for specialist treatment. He remains in a Brisbane immigration centre.

The Iranian family fled Iran in 2013 and arrived in Australia on a boat. They were initially taken to Christmas Island before the mother and son were sent to Nauru.

Justice Perram conceded the transfer to Australia would cause a “considerable, and most likely irrecoverable” cost to the government.

“Given that a life is at stake, however, I do not regard this as the important factor it would usually be. I do not, however, disregard it altogether,” the judge said.

“I regard the risk of the boy’s death as being a most powerful and compelling consideration.”

He approved an injunction demanding the immediate transfer.

“I note the next plane out of Nauru is on Wednesday 7 March 2018. To be quite clear, the boy and his mother should be on that plane.”

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/at-risk-nauru-refugee-boy-receiving-medical-care-in-australia-after-judge-s-order
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby mothra » 23 Mar 2018, 10:06

I think my heart just broke.
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby pinkeye » 26 Mar 2018, 03:04

mothra wrote:I think my heart just broke.


Thanks for the information on this Mothra.

Very unhappy information. GOD... No say DOG.!! Fucking Dutton.!! HOW MANY PEOPLE is this bastard tormenting.? Got to get this fixed, but HOW?? the government WANTS this.!!! :purple :yellow

Can't take it all on board eh. :sad :sad :sad
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby mothra » 26 Mar 2018, 17:01

pinkeye wrote:
Can't take it all on board eh. :sad :sad :sad



I try.

But on this one, i made a few phone calls and sent a few emails.
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby Vulcan » 26 Mar 2018, 20:16

Save the Manus Island 'illegals'!
Deport them back to where they came from!
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby johnsmith » 26 Mar 2018, 21:05

Vulcan wrote:Save the Manus Island 'illegals'!
Deport them back to where they came from!



not white enough for you ehh!
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby pinkeye » 27 Mar 2018, 00:11

Vulcan wrote:Save the Manus Island 'illegals'!
Deport them back to where they came from!


Don't be a dickhead. yeah, we know you can be one, we don't need any more proof. :du :up :up
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby Vulcan » 27 Mar 2018, 18:18

Got nothing to do with 'race'.
Got everything to do with irresponsibly over-populating 'free-loaders'.

Illegal: "Help us, we're poor!"
OZ: "Well stop having kids you can't feed."
Illegal: "Er, no."
OZ: "So we should feed them?"
Illegal: "Yep - you're rich!"
OZ: *shoots adults, adopts kids.
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby johnsmith » 27 Mar 2018, 18:48

Vulcan wrote:Got nothing to do with 'race'.
Got everything to do with irresponsibly over-populating 'free-loaders'.

Illegal: "Help us, we're poor!"
OZ: "Well stop having kids you can't feed."
Illegal: "Er, no."
OZ: "So we should feed them?"
Illegal: "Yep - you're rich!"
OZ: *shoots adults, adopts kids.



you're forgetting the bit where we're over there bombing the shit out of their homes :gsp :gsp :gsp
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby Vulcan » 27 Mar 2018, 22:55

johnsmith wrote:
Vulcan wrote:Got nothing to do with 'race'.
Got everything to do with irresponsibly over-populating 'free-loaders'.

Illegal: "Help us, we're poor!"
OZ: "Well stop having kids you can't feed."
Illegal: "Er, no."
OZ: "So we should feed them?"
Illegal: "Yep - you're rich!"
OZ: *shoots adults, adopts kids.



you're forgetting the bit where we're over there bombing the shit out of their homes :gsp :gsp :gsp


Oh - so they want us to send our soldiers into their country to bomb the shit out of their own people who bomb the shit out of their home?
Funny how when we send troops into countries to bomb the shit out of people who love bombing the shit out of their own home.
We suddenly get an influx of those people trying to get into our country.
So either your saying that the idea of sending any 'Military' action be it retaliatory or initially, does not achieve anything except mass migration to our country.
Or that they were going to come here regardless of wether their home is bombed by them, us or no-one really. It's just a shit home that they didn't want to take responsibility for in the first place...
..Don't you just love 'spongers' on the street who hang around 'rich areas'. No different to those 'small business' opportunists who move into a rich area and jack the prices up so high, because they know everyone can afford it. Leeches of the Rich.
Australia has worked hard to get where it is. A nation of poor people who said "Give us your clever, your smart, your educated, etc", not "Give us your poor" as in the USA.
So unless you're telling me that Australia can 'afford' to look after all the local neighbour kids, besides their own?
Remember, our wages are higher than most nations - but our 'cost' of living is even higher. It's a down-spiral of wealth, common wealth.
And yet, we can't afford to have our own 'self-sufficient' population growth of anything worth bragging about.

...and you lot still wanna just let the 'sympathy' act flood in unregulated, unmanaged, unsecured and un-contested? :roll

I dare you to park your car in Redfern with the windows down.
I dare you to leave your house unlocked.
I dare you to leave your children unattended in a public place.
Don't worry - they're all just poor lovely people from another country.

All that I hear on these forums are the sounds of 'city' people, not 'country' people. You know, the ones that hide behind the crowds of 'numbers', not 'people'.
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby johnsmith » 27 Mar 2018, 23:44

Vulcan wrote: so they want us to send our soldiers into their country to bomb the shit out of their own people who bomb the shit out of their home?


they want us to? Who wants us to? We've been getting involved in middle east affairs since Lawrence of Arabia.

We need to get the fuck out of there and leave them to themselves. They'll either sort their shit out or kill each other trying. We getting involved just puts a target on our back, and gives them the idea that if we can go there and screw with them, they can come here and screw with us.
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby pinkeye » 28 Mar 2018, 00:24

johnsmith wrote:
Vulcan wrote: so they want us to send our soldiers into their country to bomb the shit out of their own people who bomb the shit out of their home?


they want us to? Who wants us to? We've been getting involved in middle east affairs since Lawrence of Arabia.

We need to get the fuck out of there and leave them to themselves. They'll either sort their shit out or kill each other trying. We getting involved just puts a target on our back, and gives them the idea that if we can go there and screw with them, they can come here and screw with us.


I'd say that is a fair comment. Especially in light of Vulcan's fucking prose.

I DO understand that people like you feel this way, Vulcan. It is quite common in redneck country. You know North of the Border.
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Guess I know where you come from. :bgrin :bgrin
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby Vulcan » 28 Mar 2018, 10:25

pinkeye wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
Vulcan wrote: so they want us to send our soldiers into their country to bomb the shit out of their own people who bomb the shit out of their home?


they want us to? Who wants us to? We've been getting involved in middle east affairs since Lawrence of Arabia.

We need to get the fuck out of there and leave them to themselves. They'll either sort their shit out or kill each other trying. We getting involved just puts a target on our back, and gives them the idea that if we can go there and screw with them, they can come here and screw with us.


I'd say that is a fair comment. Especially in light of Vulcan's fucking prose.

I DO understand that people like you feel this way, Vulcan. It is quite common in redneck country. You know North of the Border.
:roll

Guess I know where you come from. :bgrin :bgrin


Not even close Pinkie. I very well south of you up there in Wallyworld. Lol.
Definitely not a Redneck either (I don't have a wife, heaps of kids and kids to other women - can't afford to feed, not education, etc).

I know some Papuans, they've pumped out more babies than they can afford to feed and the mum might join you if you take them in and look after them. Father has run off with another woman to make more babies. I'm sure you'll grant them 'refugee' status in your house. I mean - you're white, so naturally you're rich.
You won't say no and you certainly won't bother about doing any 'paperwork' on them, just sneak them in via your back yard - no-one will know :gsp
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby johnsmith » 28 Mar 2018, 10:36

now you're rambling Jasin

I know many white men who have kids they can't afford and then move off to another woman to do it all again. It may surprise you to learn that it's not an affliction that is limited to the tinted races.
What has that to do with anything?
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby mothra » 30 Mar 2018, 00:39

UN official visiting Nauru detention centre concerned about 'shocking' mental health situation

A senior United Nations official has demanded the Federal Government reconsider its offshore processing policy as concerns about detainees' mental health grows.

"Looking at the conditions here, particularly the mental health situation, it's very, very shocking," he said.

"We must make every effort to get refugees out of this situation."

Mr Ratwatte said family separation was a major issue.

"I have a seen a little girl of 14 years old and her father in Nauru where the mother and her siblings are in Australia for medical treatment," he said.

"This little girl was in a catatonic state, who hasn't gotten out of her room in months, who has not taken a shower, who is in a state of complete stress and trauma.

"These situations need to be avoided."

"I think the situation of children going the path of self-harm and suicide is symptomatic of the despair and hopelessness that is prevailing here," he said.

"Nobody should be in a position to seek such dire recourse."

The Australian Government has been urged to rethink its offshore processing policy.

"While there is a perspective that this is a policy that takes people away from harm and death at sea we should make sure that that approach does not lead to individuals eventually being harmed on land," Mr Ratwatte said.

"UNHCR and the Australian Government have a long history in enabling protection for refugees in this country.

"It's extremely important that that strong tradition prevails, the sense of compassion and respect prevails and that Australia is a leader in the region and beyond in best practices."

In February, the Federal Court ordered the Commonwealth bring a young girl from the Nauru detention centre to Australia for urgent psychiatric treatment.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-27/unhcr-says-nauru-refugees-mental-health-situation-shocking/9591846
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Postby pinkeye » 01 Apr 2018, 23:44

mothra wrote:UN official visiting Nauru detention centre concerned about 'shocking' mental health situation

A senior United Nations official has demanded the Federal Government reconsider its offshore processing policy as concerns about detainees' mental health grows.

"Looking at the conditions here, particularly the mental health situation, it's very, very shocking," he said.

"We must make every effort to get refugees out of this situation."

Mr Ratwatte said family separation was a major issue.

"I have a seen a little girl of 14 years old and her father in Nauru where the mother and her siblings are in Australia for medical treatment," he said.

"This little girl was in a catatonic state, who hasn't gotten out of her room in months, who has not taken a shower, who is in a state of complete stress and trauma.

"These situations need to be avoided."

"I think the situation of children going the path of self-harm and suicide is symptomatic of the despair and hopelessness that is prevailing here," he said.

"Nobody should be in a position to seek such dire recourse."

The Australian Government has been urged to rethink its offshore processing policy.

"While there is a perspective that this is a policy that takes people away from harm and death at sea we should make sure that that approach does not lead to individuals eventually being harmed on land," Mr Ratwatte said.

"UNHCR and the Australian Government have a long history in enabling protection for refugees in this country.

"It's extremely important that that strong tradition prevails, the sense of compassion and respect prevails and that Australia is a leader in the region and beyond in best practices."

In February, the Federal Court ordered the Commonwealth bring a young girl from the Nauru detention centre to Australia for urgent psychiatric treatment.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-27/unhcr-says-nauru-refugees-mental-health-situation-shocking/9591846



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why is this OK ? it is indefensible imo. There is such a thing as a Duty of Care, and FFS the government is bound by it, just as we all are. I hate this. And you know the Universe. What goes around comes around.

If only for selfish reasons,, stop this torture of innocent refugees, male, female, child, adult.. I can only say this must stop NOW. .
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby mothra » 15 Apr 2018, 00:27

Another suicidal child.


Australia agrees to bring in unwell refugee girl from Nauru
Government agrees for girl to be moved for medical care just before court hearing takes place

A young refugee girl held by Australia on Nauru, who is suffering acute mental health problems and has attempted suicide three times, will be moved to Australia for medical care as soon as Sunday, after the government agreed at the last minute to her transfer.

Lawyers from Maurice Blackburn lodged an urgent application for the girl’s transfer in the federal court on Friday night, citing a medical report dated 5 April from the government’s medical contractor IHMS, warning that the girl was at serious risk of further attempts on her life.

The government has previously fought medical transfers for children in court, but in this case, just before a court hearing on Saturday morning, it acquiesced to the girl’s transfer.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/14/australia-agrees-to-bring-in-unwell-refugee-girl-from-nauru?CMP=soc_567
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby pinkeye » 15 Apr 2018, 00:39

thanks for the info. :sad :sad :sad :sad

No Australian government MP PM BB CB OP can be praised for this.
No Australian MP or any other body, can seek to tell anyone/body/country what they should be doing WHEN WE DO THIS.!!

I do so hope this child gets care BUT... this type of trauma..? can never be healed. :sad :sad :sad :sad
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby mothra » 15 Apr 2018, 00:41

pinkeye wrote:thanks for the info. :sad :sad :sad :sad

No Australian government MP PM BB CB OP can be praised for this.
No Australian MP or any other body, can seek to tell anyone/body/country what they should be doing WHEN WE DO THIS.!!

I do so hope this child gets care BUT... this type of trauma..? can never be healed. :sad :sad :sad :sad



If only Australians got as angry about this as they do about Yassmin Abdel-Magied asking us to think about it.
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mothra wrote:
pinkeye wrote:thanks for the info. :sad :sad :sad :sad

No Australian government MP PM BB CB OP can be praised for this.
No Australian MP or any other body, can seek to tell anyone/body/country what they should be doing WHEN WE DO THIS.!!

I do so hope this child gets care BUT... this type of trauma..? can never be healed. :sad :sad :sad :sad



If only Australians got as angry about this as they do about Yassmin Abdel-Magied asking us to think about it.



Well it is the case of shooting the messenger.
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pinkeye wrote:
mothra wrote:
pinkeye wrote:thanks for the info. :sad :sad :sad :sad

No Australian government MP PM BB CB OP can be praised for this.
No Australian MP or any other body, can seek to tell anyone/body/country what they should be doing WHEN WE DO THIS.!!

I do so hope this child gets care BUT... this type of trauma..? can never be healed. :sad :sad :sad :sad



If only Australians got as angry about this as they do about Yassmin Abdel-Magied asking us to think about it.



Well it is the case of shooting the messenger.


Especially a brown, Muslim, feminist woman. How dare she stick her head above the bunker?
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Postby pinkeye » 15 Apr 2018, 01:34

mothra wrote:
pinkeye wrote:
mothra wrote:
pinkeye wrote:thanks for the info. :sad :sad :sad :sad

No Australian government MP PM BB CB OP can be praised for this.
No Australian MP or any other body, can seek to tell anyone/body/country what they should be doing WHEN WE DO THIS.!!

I do so hope this child gets care BUT... this type of trauma..? can never be healed. :sad :sad :sad :sad



If only Australians got as angry about this as they do about Yassmin Abdel-Magied asking us to think about it.



Well it is the case of shooting the messenger.


Especially a brown, Muslim, feminist woman. How dare she stick her head above the bunker?



Especially. An easy target? No... she is very brave... she is NO easy target.!
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby Dax » 15 Apr 2018, 07:37

Doesn't matter what colour, race or ethnicity they are, they made the decision to pay someone to try to enter Aus illegally, so they deserve nothing from Aus. Who wants more crazed god nutters here any way, or do the crazed do gooders conveniently forget, what the god cult has done to the Aus, the planet and its life forces.
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Re: 10 yr old Nauru refugee's many suicide attempts

Postby HBS Guy » 15 Apr 2018, 08:45

{sigh} no such thing as illegal entry for purpose of seeking asylum. We signed up to the UN Convention on Refugees.

Even irregular arrival (boat, now plane with dodgy 457 type visa) is NOT illegal.
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Postby johnsmith » 15 Apr 2018, 09:18

Dax wrote:Doesn't matter what colour, race or ethnicity they are, they made the decision to pay someone to try to enter Aus illegally, so they deserve nothing from Aus. Who wants more crazed god nutters here any way, or do the crazed do gooders conveniently forget, what the god cult has done to the Aus, the planet and its life forces.



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