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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby CaesarAugustus » 10 Apr 2018, 17:15

pinkeye wrote:
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mothra wrote:
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mothra wrote:No. I've said a lot more than that. Haven't been able to get you to see it though.


Your argument has been: Gandalf has preached a peaceful version of Islam, therefore it is a peaceful religion.

That's not really an argument, is it?


LOL! No it's not. Not my argument nor the only point i've made.

Either you don't read or don't understand what is said to you often, Augie. It's exhausting after a few pages.


Please highlight where you have spoken about the 'ideologies of Islam' and where you have addressed the 'wife-beating' verse in the Quran??

No, no where??



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HOW THE FUCK DO WE GET THIS CUNT TO SHUT THE FUCK UP, IF HE CAN'T stay on topic.
hEY FUCK OFF.
I'm SICK OF HEARING ABOUT YOUR OBSESSION ON THIS topic.... WHICH has nothing to do with islam. !! fair go.

if you have so much to say about it, and you think some-one will reply, START YOUR OWN FUCKING TOPIC.!!

stop hi-jacking the discussion and fuck off.


Woah there! Talk about getting defensive when being asked about the hard questions.

This topic was about differences in culture, and as an extension of that, religion since religion makes up a large portion of culture.

Now, will you continue to obfuscate or do you actually want to address the point in question. Or are you only against the patriarchy when it's a white patriarchy??
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby Dax » 10 Apr 2018, 19:52

johnsmith wrote:funny how you can find so much to ramble on about, yet still avoid the actual topic.

Does rambling on incessantly about anything but the topic really work for you in reality? Cause it's not working for you here..


Lets not resort to double standards to try to gain a point. My post is on topic, cultural and ideological. It revolves around the question of Dutton being racist, he believes in god fervently, so by definition is racist. His approach on this subject, which has typically brought out other racists with opposing views, may can be construed to be racist. Which is why those who support islam and Judaism, claim anything said against them is now racist. Yet religion is an ideology, not a race, Unless you class it as a race of the most insane and deluded, which also relates to other ideologues.

Rambling on, what I have to say may not be right in the eyes of the confused, but all it is a different way of looking at things and in the long rum, probably closer to the truth. I put that down to the experiences I've had in life and the cultures I've associated with and joined in with as much as I was able at the time.

When you step outside the individual boxes we are all ideologically and sociologically locked in from birth and really live, you'd probably rabble on. No different to many others who have done a bit of travel, cultural anthropological investigations, whether by choice, or circumstances. Fit in with the locals and they accept you, try to introduce your way and they reject you. It's no different to taking over an successful operating hospitality business, so many make the mistake of thinking there way will be accepted and go broke within a year or so.

You change nothing when moving into others cultural place of socialisation, work to fit in and once you have, changes will be acceptable when seen as necessary or progressive. In social cultural cases, thing like food and entertainment are always acceptable presented right. But forcing cultural and ideological changes upon societies that are happy and comfortable in their culture, even if some don't see it, always bring disaster.
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby johnsmith » 10 Apr 2018, 21:57

Dax wrote: My post is on topic, cultural and ideological.


topic was aussie culture, not your opinion of city v country life

try again
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby pinkeye » 10 Apr 2018, 22:51

Sorry fellas butyou ALL ought to read the subject title.

THIS is ABOUT PETER DUTTON. !! If you want to expand on the topic to Aussies in general, start a topic about THAT yeah.? :roll

As for Mr Dutton, he has been subjected to quite a bit of RIDICULE, over the S Afrikaans, and the Black Gangs in Melbourne scaring people away from eating out. Yes that was a while ago now, but I STILL THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. All this obfuscation and misdirection isn't impressive

. It remains topical, as these things were discussed last night, and today on the teev. ABC of course. No other television corporation even attempts to be objective. AND before you all jump on the donkey, that means giving equal time to both/ all sides of issues. Only SBS beats the ABC in presenting unbiased News. No.. Mr Dutton has an extremely powerful position, handed to him by the LNP coalition government. They KNOW NOT what they have DONE.
Do you notice, he's been pretty quiet lately? Oh but didn't he do it again yesterday.? Some garbage I missed.
No, so they roll out Joyce again to try and deflect.

So fellas,, stick to the topic. You might have gotten away with a 10 page diatribe on other forums, but If I see this shit I'll have u up. :bgrin :bike
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby johnsmith » 10 Apr 2018, 23:08

pinkeye wrote:Sorry fellas butyou ALL ought to read the subject title.


conversations flow from one topic to another

but trying to argue aussie culture by giving a spiel on city v country isn't conversation flowing, it's rambling on
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby CaesarAugustus » 10 Apr 2018, 23:13

pinkeye wrote:Sorry fellas butyou ALL ought to read the subject title.

THIS is ABOUT PETER DUTTON. !! If you want to expand on the topic to Aussies in general, start a topic about THAT yeah.? :roll

As for Mr Dutton, he has been subjected to quite a bit of RIDICULE, over the S Afrikaans, and the Black Gangs in Melbourne scaring people away from eating out. Yes that was a while ago now, but I STILL THINK IT IS IMPORTANT. All this obfuscation and misdirection isn't impressive

. It remains topical, as these things were discussed last night, and today on the teev. ABC of course. No other television corporation even attempts to be objective. AND before you all jump on the donkey, that means giving equal time to both/ all sides of issues. Only SBS beats the ABC in presenting unbiased News. No.. Mr Dutton has an extremely powerful position, handed to him by the LNP coalition government. They KNOW NOT what they have DONE.
Do you notice, he's been pretty quiet lately? Oh but didn't he do it again yesterday.? Some garbage I missed.
No, so they roll out Joyce again to try and deflect.

So fellas,, stick to the topic. You might have gotten away with a 10 page diatribe on other forums, but If I see this shit I'll have u up. :bgrin :bike


Perhaps then you could comment on the 'Doctrine vs. Practice' thread that I started. Or do you use 'off-topic' as being an excuse for the tough topics?
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby pinkeye » 10 Apr 2018, 23:14

CaesarAugustus wrote:
pinkeye wrote:
CaesarAugustus wrote:
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mothra wrote:No. I've said a lot more than that. Haven't been able to get you to see it though.


Your argument has been: Gandalf has preached a peaceful version of Islam, therefore it is a peaceful religion.

That's not really an argument, is it?


LOL! No it's not. Not my argument nor the only point i've made.

Either you don't read or don't understand what is said to you often, Augie. It's exhausting after a few pages.


Please highlight where you have spoken about the 'ideologies of Islam' and where you have addressed the 'wife-beating' verse in the Quran??

No, no where??



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HOW THE FUCK DO WE GET THIS CUNT TO SHUT THE FUCK UP, IF HE CAN'T stay on topic.
hEY FUCK OFF.
I'm SICK OF HEARING ABOUT YOUR OBSESSION ON THIS topic.... WHICH has nothing to do with islam. !! fair go.

if you have so much to say about it, and you think some-one will reply, START YOUR OWN FUCKING TOPIC.!!

stop hi-jacking the discussion and fuck off.




Woah there! Talk about getting defensive when being asked about the hard questions.

This topic was about differences in culture,...........................


NO IT ISN'T Dickhead. YOU haven't asked ANY hard questions... just fucking irrelevant ones. This is NOT about religion, NOR Aussie Culture. ( altho YOU could start a topic on that if YOU WANTED TO. )

NO ... he who has a really obssessed head..... this is about Peter Dutton.
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby CaesarAugustus » 10 Apr 2018, 23:20

NO IT ISN'T Dickhead. YOU haven't asked ANY hard questions... just fucking irrelevant ones. This is NOT about religion, NOR Aussie Culture. ( altho YOU could start a topic on that if YOU WANTED TO. )

NO ... he who has a really obssessed head..... this is about Peter Dutton.
Keeping it simple for you, dickwit.


Geez, you had better wash the filth out of that mouth of yours.

Is this what feminism is, is it?
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby pinkeye » 10 Apr 2018, 23:26

You know you need to read properly, and learn to trim your verbosity. For ALL our sakes.

NOW IF the Topic had been IS AUSTRALIAN CULTURE AND ISLAMOPHOBIA REFLECTED IN PETER DUTTON'S STATEMENTS..?

I might listen. BUT IT ISN'T.

READ the Subject ..TOPIC .

Could it be MORE OVERTLY OBVIOUS.?
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby CaesarAugustus » 10 Apr 2018, 23:29

pinkeye wrote:You know you need to read properly, and learn to trim your verbosity. For ALL our sakes.

NOW IF the Topic had been IS AUSTRALIAN CULTURE AND ISLAMOPHOBIA REFLECTED IN PETER DUTTON'S STATEMENTS..?

I might listen. BUT IT ISN'T.

READ the Subject ..TOPIC .

Could it be MORE OVERTLY OBVIOUS.?


Pinkeye, topics lead on to other topics, and oftentimes it's easier to just continue the topic in the same forum, particularly if there's an indirect link.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill, and frankly I think you're using this as an excuse to avoid debate.

You seem to think that I'm wanting to hijack this thread. I'm not trying to do that.

Now, can you comport yourself with more civility? Or do you believe that a culture of being civilized is not superior to a culture of being uncivilized???
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby pinkeye » 10 Apr 2018, 23:30

CaesarAugustus wrote:
NO IT ISN'T Dickhead. YOU haven't asked ANY hard questions... just fucking irrelevant ones. This is NOT about religion, NOR Aussie Culture. ( altho YOU could start a topic on that if YOU WANTED TO. )

NO ... he who has a really obssessed head..... this is about Peter Dutton.
Keeping it simple for you, dickwit.


Geez, you had better wash the filth out of that mouth of yours.

Is this what feminism is, is it?



YOU don't get to TELL ME what to do.!
YOU better clean out your fucking brain, seems pretty cluttered and crusted with shit to me.
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby pinkeye » 10 Apr 2018, 23:31

CaesarAugustus wrote:
Pinkeye, topics lead on to other topics, and oftentimes it's easier to just continue the topic in the same forum, particularly if there's an indirect link.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill, and frankly I think you're using this as an excuse to avoid debate.

You seem to think that I'm wanting to hijack this thread. I'm not trying to do that.

Now, can you comport yourself with more civility? Or do you believe that a culture of being civilized is not superior to a culture of being uncivilized???


Well no I can't comport myself more civilly. Your oh so pathetic explanation to me about conversations and topics leading to others is justso contemptuous and offensive... do you realise how PASSIVE/AGGRESSIVE YOU ARE.?
I'd much rather call a spade a spade, than wallow around in rhetoric , trying for a dig here, and a dig there. Pathetic.

Nope. I have NO DESIRE to discuss religion, let alone DEBATE it on this topic. About Peter DUTTON. Feel free to copy and paste to a NEW thread, if you think it's a great idea. I couldn't give a RAT'S ARSE.

What I DO CARE ABOUT IS THE CALIBRE of MP's , such as DUTTON, that we have in positions of power NEVER HELD BEFORE BY ANY AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT.!Not good.. I abhor their politics, and their divisiveness.. POLITICS HIT THE GUTTER when Mr HOWARD gained his SECOND COMING.

I was gobsmacked at the time,,... and continue to despise everything he stood for, and the shambles in which he left australian government and politics in general. Saw him today, in his first incarnation (on video), when he laughed at the very idea of running AGAIN for PM. He was suitably incredulous, but the man was a scheming skunk.

His spawn Abbott continued the rot, and now we have lilly-legs Mal. Our man for NBN.
And just to remind you that this topic falls under the heading of POLITICS, for a REASON. :roll :roll

Now, if you want to talk about these matters... FINE. :thumb
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby CaesarAugustus » 10 Apr 2018, 23:34

pinkeye wrote:YOU don't get to TELL ME what to do.!


Clearly you were taught never manners, were you?

YOU better clean out your fucking brain, seems pretty cluttered and crusted with shit to me.


The decay of civilization right here, folks....
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby pinkeye » 10 Apr 2018, 23:52

CaesarAugustus wrote:
pinkeye wrote:YOU don't get to TELL ME what to do.!


Clearly you were taught never manners, were you?

YOU better clean out your fucking brain, seems pretty cluttered and crusted with shit to me.


The decay of civilization right here, folks....


That's quite funny coming from someone who calls himself CaesarAugustus.
Been there before have you.? :roll :bgrin

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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby Dax » 11 Apr 2018, 06:26

johnsmith wrote:
Dax wrote: My post is on topic, cultural and ideological.


topic was aussie culture, not your opinion of city v country life

try again


Hilarious, read you post again, "Aussie culture", what do you think city v country life is, other than cultural differences. :rofl

There are huge difference between urban and country cultures in every society, but if you've little or no experience outside your suburb or city, then you wouldn't have clue and that's obvious in your pathetic attempts to deflect your ignorance of real life to others.
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby Dax » 11 Apr 2018, 06:36

pinkeye wrote:Sorry fellas butyou ALL ought to read the subject title.

THIS is ABOUT PETER DUTTON. !! If you want to expand on the topic to Aussies in general, start a topic about THAT yeah.? :roll


This is about Dutton being racist, racism mainly revolves around cultural differences and other than physical differences, nothing else. There is a huge difference between white SA and Aussies, most SA I've come across are really arrogant self centered racist elitists. They are part of the problem revolving round racism, no different to any other ideologues and culture is the main difference. In SA they are getting what they deserve considering how they treated the indigenous there for centuries.
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby johnsmith » 11 Apr 2018, 08:51

Dax wrote:There are huge difference between urban and country cultures in every society


earlier you were arguing there is no city culture ............. make up your mind :roll :roll

Dax wrote:but if you've little or no experience outside your suburb or city


you have no idea of my experiences so best you stop pretending or you'll make a bigger fool of yourself than you already are
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby CaesarAugustus » 11 Apr 2018, 11:23

pinkeye wrote:
CaesarAugustus wrote:
pinkeye wrote:YOU don't get to TELL ME what to do.!


Clearly you were taught never manners, were you?

YOU better clean out your fucking brain, seems pretty cluttered and crusted with shit to me.


The decay of civilization right here, folks....


That's quite funny coming from someone who calls himself CaesarAugustus.
Been there before have you.? :roll :bgrin

And yeah I WAS taught never manners. :yak yak


How so? Is your history different from mine?
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby Dax » 11 Apr 2018, 12:37

johnsmith wrote:
Dax wrote:There are huge difference between urban and country cultures in every society


earlier you were arguing there is no city culture ............. make up your mind :roll :roll

Dax wrote:but if you've little or no experience outside your suburb or city


you have no idea of my experiences so best you stop pretending or you'll make a bigger fool of yourself than you already are


Wrong again, I said city life does not represent Aussie culture, but ideological insanity, the realm of fools. If it wasn't that way, we wouldn't have all the problems associated with urban living, massive pollution and changing climate. Cities are places for ideological fools, they lack and form of understanding of reality outside their deluded existence.

That's why the overwhelming majority of ideological migrants, always congregate in urban environments, they believe it is where reality exists and they are safe and will get what they want. The reality is, currently it's all a dream world, illogical, irrational, wasteful, destructive, unbelievably polluting, unsustainable in the long term and not long before being relegated to the past, where cities belong.

Off course I have no idea of your life experience, but in all things, how we express and its content, reveals the depth of our experience, knowledge and understanding of life. Those unable to logically contribute, debate and just attack, most certainly reveal the depth of their life experience and knowledge.
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby johnsmith » 11 Apr 2018, 17:27

Dax wrote: Those unable to logically contribute, debate and just attack, most certainly reveal the depth of their life experience and knowledge.



don't be so harsh on yourself
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby pinkeye » 11 Apr 2018, 23:01

johnsmith wrote:
Dax wrote: Those unable to logically contribute, debate and just attack, most certainly reveal the depth of their life experience and knowledge.



don't be so harsh on yourself



Yes ... DO.!!
Look this is Politics,( as in the particular part of the forum) !!
and I think it is IMPORTANT to have AT LEAST ONE FOCUSSED TOPIC, based on the TITLE.

IT IS IMPORTANT to have an ongoing, on-topic discussion about what Peter Dutton says, and does. Because... and I guess you idiots don't understand the IMPORTANCE....... this man has powers ...IN LAW... which have NEVER existed BEFORE in Australian politics... and THIS IS THE MAN ENDOWED with these powers.

I guess you aren't INTO this issue. SO can I say again... YES I CAN... WOULD you please KEEP YOUR COMMENTS ON TOPIC. If you cannot, please FUCK OFF. SAY YOUR SHIT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

. I DON'T SEE the name PETER DUTTON, in any of your posts. Nothing you post relates in any immediate way WITH THE TOPIC, which is actually
PETER FUCKING DUTTON.

Do you have a problem ??/ TAKE it somewhere else. THANKS, that would be appreciated.
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby HBS Guy » 12 Apr 2018, 03:45

Dax is welcome to post here.
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby CaesarAugustus » 12 Apr 2018, 10:58

HBS Guy wrote:Dax is welcome to post here.


Here here.
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby CaesarAugustus » 12 Apr 2018, 11:00

pinkeye wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
Dax wrote: Those unable to logically contribute, debate and just attack, most certainly reveal the depth of their life experience and knowledge.



don't be so harsh on yourself



Yes ... DO.!!
Look this is Politics,( as in the particular part of the forum) !!
and I think it is IMPORTANT to have AT LEAST ONE FOCUSSED TOPIC, based on the TITLE.

IT IS IMPORTANT to have an ongoing, on-topic discussion about what Peter Dutton says, and does. Because... and I guess you idiots don't understand the IMPORTANCE....... this man has powers ...IN LAW... which have NEVER existed BEFORE in Australian politics... and THIS IS THE MAN ENDOWED with these powers.

I guess you aren't INTO this issue. SO can I say again... YES I CAN... WOULD you please KEEP YOUR COMMENTS ON TOPIC. If you cannot, please FUCK OFF. SAY YOUR SHIT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

. I DON'T SEE the name PETER DUTTON, in any of your posts. Nothing you post relates in any immediate way WITH THE TOPIC, which is actually
PETER FUCKING DUTTON.

Do you have a problem ??/ TAKE it somewhere else. THANKS, that would be appreciated.


You must wear like a thousand nose rings or something.

No offence, but you have some serious anger management issues. Perhaps you should seek professional help. Seriously. No offence.
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Re: Could Dutton be more overtly racist?

Postby HBS Guy » 12 Apr 2018, 11:16

Locking this thread for a day or two to let tempers cool down.

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