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Postby johnsmith » 27 Jan 2018, 14:19

An elected NSW Labor government would negotiate a treaty recognising traditional Indigenous ownership of NSW, Opposition Leader Luke Foley will reveal on Australia Day, in a move that could lead to a greater share of the state's resource wealth and policy-making influence for the state's Indigenous population.

Australia is the only current or past Commonwealth of Nations country not to have a treaty with its original inhabitants. Other Australian states are commencing negotiations.

Mr Foley says the fact the state with the largest Indigenous population has not joined them must be rectified.

"This is where the colonial enterprise began; the land was claimed for the British empire; the traditional custodians had that land expropriated from them," Mr Foley said in an interview with Fairfax Media.

As debate about constitutional recognition of Indigenous Australians in the federal constitution wanes, Mr Foley will on Friday announce his intent to negotiate a treaty with the NSW Aboriginal Land Council and the state's estimated 230,000 Indigenous people.

"We have to come to terms with our past," he said. "The oldest continuing problem our society faces is the dispossession of our Indigenous people and its continuing consequences."

Mr Foley said he would not pre-empt the contents of any agreement with the state's Indigenous population, but alluded to potential outcomes of other nations' treaties, such as greater claims over the state's natural resources or self-determination over health, education and justice policy.

"I imagine [Indigenous leaders] will want to talk to us about education and health services the government provides, they will want to talk about economic cooperation, about indigenous interactions with the justice system, he said. "All of those things will be on the table. It's about the future and the past.

"We'll do everything in our powers to make sure the aspirations of our members come to fruition," said NSWALC chair Roy Ah-See. "Treaties are a practical way for New South Wales to deepen Aboriginal participation in the economy and community."

Treaties were established early in other British colonial outposts such as New Zealand, Canada and the United States.

Legal battles over New Zealand's original 1840 Treaty of Waitangi has been the basis of several legal cases that have resulted in more than $1 billion in compensation payments or equity stakes in state corporations, according to the New Zealand Centre for Independent Political Research.

Mr Foley will announce the plan on Friday in an Australia Day speech at the Elizabeth Street site of the 1938 Indigenous "Day of Mourning protests" and has written to the NSW Aboriginal Land Council.

While the Greens have backed a move to change the date of Australia Day because of its associations with Indigenous dispossession Australia's two main political parties have rejected the idea of changing the date.

The federal Liberal government has said it is open to a treaty, one of the recommendations the Uluru Statement of Indigenous leaders. It has also been backed by senior Indigenous leaders such as Warren Mundine.

The early stages of treaty negotiations are underway in South Australia – which is negotiating with dozens of separate nations or clans – and the NT and Victoria, which is seeking a state-wide accord.

Federal Labor leader Bill Shorten has said: "It is time for some Australians to move beyond knee-jerk panic and unthinking outrage every time the word 'treaty' is mentioned."

In 1988, then prime minister Bob Hawke was presented with the Barunga accord, written on a piece of bark calling for the establishment of a treaty. He agreed but one never eventuated.

Mr Foley has instead proposed replacing the Queen's Birthday holiday in June with a day dedicated to commemorating Indigenous history.



http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/about-the-future-and-the-past-nsw-labor-to-ink-treaty-with-indigenous-australians-20180124-h0nnn5.html
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Re: Treaty

Postby HBS Guy » 27 Jan 2018, 16:54

Good idea! Who the fuck cares about some old duck on the other side of the world?
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Re: Treaty

Postby johnsmith » 27 Jan 2018, 18:38

johnsmith wrote:Mr Foley has instead proposed replacing the Queen's Birthday holiday in June with a day dedicated to commemorating Indigenous history.




this is a brilliant idea
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Re: Treaty

Postby BigOl64 » 28 Jan 2018, 18:07

johnsmith wrote:
johnsmith wrote:Mr Foley has instead proposed replacing the Queen's Birthday holiday in June with a day dedicated to commemorating Indigenous history.




this is a brilliant idea



So what does the rest of the country do while the abbos are celebrating their latest 'reconciliation' win?
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Re: Treaty

Postby johnsmith » 28 Jan 2018, 20:08

BigOl64 wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
johnsmith wrote:Mr Foley has instead proposed replacing the Queen's Birthday holiday in June with a day dedicated to commemorating Indigenous history.




this is a brilliant idea



So what does the rest of the country do while the abbos are celebrating their latest 'reconciliation' win?


tell me, do you whinge about St Patricks day?
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Re: Treaty

Postby BigOl64 » 04 Feb 2018, 07:50

johnsmith wrote:
BigOl64 wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
johnsmith wrote:Mr Foley has instead proposed replacing the Queen's Birthday holiday in June with a day dedicated to commemorating Indigenous history.




this is a brilliant idea



So what does the rest of the country do while the abbos are celebrating their latest 'reconciliation' win?


tell me, do you whinge about St Patricks day?



No-one took away my public holiday and gave it the fucken Irish so no.


Excellent example there numpty. :bgrin :bgrin
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Re: Treaty

Postby johnsmith » 04 Feb 2018, 13:50

BigOl64 wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
BigOl64 wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
johnsmith wrote:Mr Foley has instead proposed replacing the Queen's Birthday holiday in June with a day dedicated to commemorating Indigenous history.




this is a brilliant idea



So what does the rest of the country do while the abbos are celebrating their latest 'reconciliation' win?


tell me, do you whinge about St Patricks day?



No-one took away my public holiday and gave it the fucken Irish so no.


Excellent example there numpty. :bgrin :bgrin


who said anything about taking away your public holiday 'numpty'? :giggle :giggle :giggle
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Re: Treaty

Postby BigOl64 » 04 Feb 2018, 19:25

johnsmith wrote:
BigOl64 wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
BigOl64 wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
johnsmith wrote:[b]Mr Foley has instead proposed replacing the Queen's Birthday holiday in June with a day dedicated to commemorating Indigenous history.
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this is a brilliant idea



So what does the rest of the country do while the abbos are celebrating their latest 'reconciliation' win?


tell me, do you whinge about St Patricks day?



No-one took away my public holiday and gave it the fucken Irish so no.


Excellent example there numpty. :bgrin :bgrin


who said anything about taking away your public holiday 'numpty'? :giggle :giggle :giggle



It would seem, Mr foley for a start


Hows about a Fucking day where I don't need to apologise for anything
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Re: Treaty

Postby johnsmith » 04 Feb 2018, 20:09

BigOl64 wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
BigOl64 wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
BigOl64 wrote:
johnsmith wrote:

this is a brilliant idea



So what does the rest of the country do while the abbos are celebrating their latest 'reconciliation' win?


tell me, do you whinge about St Patricks day?



No-one took away my public holiday and gave it the fucken Irish so no.


Excellent example there numpty. :bgrin :bgrin


who said anything about taking away your public holiday 'numpty'? :giggle :giggle :giggle



It would seem, Mr foley for a start


Hows about a Fucking day where I don't need to apologise for anything



that was yesterday

since you bought it up, who asked you to apologise for anything?
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