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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby HBS Guy » 22 Dec 2017, 12:10

Yeah, just use power poles, overhead wire to the dwelling/commercial building. Maybe attach it to the overhead line going from the pole to the building, less visual impact. If someone wants it trenched—let them do the trenching!

This would be mainly rolled out in townships, farms could do their own trenching, pay towards the fibre to his house etc. Could all be done cheaply enough.

In SA the State govt is rolling out gigabit fibre to main commercial/industrial precincts, the Adelaide City Council is rolling out 10Gbps fibre to precincts in its are (covered this earlier somewhere) so they see the value.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby BigOl64 » 22 Dec 2017, 19:12

HBS Guy wrote:Yeah, just use power poles, overhead wire to the dwelling/commercial building. Maybe attach it to the overhead line going from the pole to the building, less visual impact. If someone wants it trenched—let them do the trenching!

This would be mainly rolled out in townships, farms could do their own trenching, pay towards the fibre to his house etc. Could all be done cheaply enough.

In SA the State govt is rolling out gigabit fibre to main commercial/industrial precincts, the Adelaide City Council is rolling out 10Gbps fibre to precincts in its are (covered this earlier somewhere) so they see the value.



it must be incredibly cheap that we are paying billions for going to the node and yet going right up to the house is the price of a pack of chips.

Hows about fucking bullshit. :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


Still haven't explained why we need two NBNs yet have you.


Maybe that stupid cunt from brisbane thinks that ignoring everything we have asked for is easily placated by giving us something we neither want or need.


Like I said the NBN we have now does a fine job, is there some thing about that wording that confuses you?
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby BigOl64 » 22 Dec 2017, 19:18

HBS Guy wrote:Not every bloody house. You DO have brains I trust? Or is it all just reflex with you?



So only some then, the ones that already have the NBN or the ones that are getting the federally funded NBN will be not getting a second state government funded NBN. That doesn't leave much does it?


Fuck this plan is so brilliant is just might work....... how fucking stupid do you think we are?


Fuck you must nearly as fucking stupid as that cunt from brisbane if you think anyone gives a fu[code]k about that when there are vastly more pressing issues currently being ignored by that cunt.

You are just another apologist labor stooge too stupid to realise you are being taken for a ride.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby Lefty » 23 Dec 2017, 05:01

Morse code telegraph works fine - why didn't we just stick with that?

A few years ago I had a conversation with a crew of tech installers. They did the lot: copper, fibre, wireless, contracted to government, to big business, to small business. So they knew what they were on about.

They were absolutely incredulous as to how something they could see was simply the logical next step in communication infrastructure had become so politicised and declared some kind of enemy. The stupidity of Abbot beggars belief.

The NBN is not fine. The original plan has been so utterly barstardised by the coalition that it's now a dysfunctional pale shadow of what it should have been. My understanding is that government demands that NBNco recover it's construction costs with scant regard for the fact that it is crucial nation building infrastructure for a supposedly modern country. To comply with that demand, NBNco slugs the service providers with high costs to buy capacity on the network. The service providers respond to this by providing inferior connection speed packages at cost while charging high rates for their higher speed packages, meaning less people can afford to use them.

So it's weighted towards low-speed packages which means that the infrastructure is seriously under-used relative to it's potential and defeating the purpose of a modernised network.

So we have a very deliberate clusterfuck as a result of the obsession with the neo-liberal veiw. What should have been a relatively straightforward shift to a greatly superior system has been purposely hobbled.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby BigOl64 » 23 Dec 2017, 13:00

Lefty wrote:Morse code telegraph works fine - why didn't we just stick with that?

A few years ago I had a conversation with a crew of tech installers. They did the lot: copper, fibre, wireless, contracted to government, to big business, to small business. So they knew what they were on about.

They were absolutely incredulous as to how something they could see was simply the logical next step in communication infrastructure had become so politicised and declared some kind of enemy. The stupidity of Abbot beggars belief.

The NBN is not fine. The original plan has been so utterly barstardised by the coalition that it's now a dysfunctional pale shadow of what it should have been. My understanding is that government demands that NBNco recover it's construction costs with scant regard for the fact that it is crucial nation building infrastructure for a supposedly modern country. To comply with that demand, NBNco slugs the service providers with high costs to buy capacity on the network. The service providers respond to this by providing inferior connection speed packages at cost while charging high rates for their higher speed packages, meaning less people can afford to use them.

So it's weighted towards low-speed packages which means that the infrastructure is seriously under-used relative to it's potential and defeating the purpose of a modernised network.

So we have a very deliberate clusterfuck as a result of the obsession with the neo-liberal veiw. What should have been a relatively straightforward shift to a greatly superior system has been purposely hobbled.



So you have used the NBN in North Queensland have you?

I can stream netflix or foxtel and operate 2 computers simultaneously with heavy internet usage on 25 / 10.

What the fuck more do I or anyone one else want?


We do need cheap reliable base load power, we do need adequate medical facilities, we do need thousands of more jobs, we do need less fucking crime, we do NOT need to download German Midget Porn at a faster rate.


BTW I don't know why we are arguing, this is a standard ploy from both labor and LNP governments, to promise some major project to show they give a fuck. It is NEVER going to happen. So calm ya tits ladies you have been scammed by QLD labor, you'll learn to get used to it after a few years.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby BigOl64 » 23 Dec 2017, 13:08

HBS Guy wrote:Yeah, just use power poles, overhead wire to the dwelling/commercial building. Maybe attach it to the overhead line going from the pole to the building, less visual impact. If someone wants it trenched—let them do the trenching!

This would be mainly rolled out in townships, farms could do their own trenching, pay towards the fibre to his house etc. Could all be done cheaply enough.

In SA the State govt is rolling out gigabit fibre to main commercial/industrial precincts, the Adelaide City Council is rolling out 10Gbps fibre to precincts in its are (covered this earlier somewhere) so they see the value.



Yep, thousands of kilometres of optic fibre all doing a fantastic jobhigh up in the air, right up until cyclone season when it all gets ripped to shreds. A few billion more to run all brand new fibre optics, like a scene out of Monty Python's Holy Grail.

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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby HBS Guy » 23 Dec 2017, 13:09

Not all of Qld is on the coast.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby BigOl64 » 23 Dec 2017, 14:31

HBS Guy wrote:Not all of Qld is on the coast.



You do realise they don't just park their arse on the nearest beach and stay there don't you?


Seriously tell me you aren't that fucking stupid.


Cyclone Yasi was 500 km (from Cooktown to Mackay) across and went a few hundred kms inland, nearly all the way to Mount Isa, the big ones further north go from one side of the cape to the other and spin up again,

There will be a few places in the south and central west safe from cyclones but the bulk of the population in well inside the area of destruction.

Still think that stupid cunt has our best interest at heart?

It's a scam, a distraction, this is one of a long line of bullshit stories that come out of george St to makes us thing that the government of SEQ gives a fuck.

It is a stupid idea.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby HBS Guy » 23 Dec 2017, 14:53

FTTH is the only feasible option for true broadband. True broadband will help Qld farmers track produce past farm or factory gate.

That you have reliable internet—good for you. Most on FW/Sat/FTTN have crap slow and unreliable broadband. This project will do more good for Qld West & North than 20 Adanais.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby BigOl64 » 23 Dec 2017, 23:18

HBS Guy wrote:FTTH is the only feasible option for true broadband. True broadband will help Qld farmers track produce past farm or factory gate.

That you have reliable internet—good for you. Most on FW/Sat/FTTN have crap slow and unreliable broadband. This project will do more good for Qld West & North than 20 Adanais.



So far I have not found one Queensland news site that has even mentioned this 'massive project' of labor's, that says everything about in a nutshell.


You seem to think our pastoral properties have power line pasing the farmhouse ready to run an optic fibre straight the farmers laptop, this isn't england with thousands of little hobby farms jammed in between towns and cities spanned only a few kilometres apart.


Most pastoralists don't have power connected and the ones close to the coast may have power and access to fibre optic, well up until the first cyclone anyway.

Look this idea has been generated by a total fuckwit whose knowledge of regional Queensland is close to fucking zero, no-one is talking about it, no news sites are reporting it and most of all no-one cares

You have been scammed, it is never going to happen not now not ever.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby pinkeye » 24 Dec 2017, 01:01

BigOl64 wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:No. If the NBN you have is not FTTH you don’t have the NBN. I imagine vest swathes of rural Qld don’t have the NBN.



And how much is going to cost the QLD taxpayer to run FTTH for every single rural and regional house hold exactly?

As I said we have NBN, in what ever version that may be and it works just fine I run Netflix and foxtel through it and no problems, so why would I want another one?

Believe it or not Im not alone here no-one in NQ asked for another fucking NBN, we did ask for a base load power station and a PET Scanner, and support for any major projects that came our way, but it has been decided by the cunt from brisbane that she knows best about what we want and ignored any and all request from us.

What a fucking great leader that cunt is.


You obviously DON'T have NBN. You may well have ADSL or some such, but you do NOT have what the rest of Australia knows as the NBN.

If your region happened to get fibre to the home, then you may have it, but given your displayed pathetic level of details, I doubt it. I know 'LL LOOK IT UP. wHERE DO YOU LIVE AGAIN.? THE NT SOMEWHERE, ISN'T IT?

Darwin perhaps? Easy to look up. Where are you again? Just roughly will do.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby pinkeye » 24 Dec 2017, 01:07

Lefty wrote:Morse code telegraph works fine - why didn't we just stick with that?

A few years ago I had a conversation with a crew of tech installers. They did the lot: copper, fibre, wireless, contracted to government, to big business, to small business. So they knew what they were on about.

They were absolutely incredulous as to how something they could see was simply the logical next step in communication infrastructure had become so politicised and declared some kind of enemy. The stupidity of Abbot beggars belief.

The NBN is not fine. The original plan has been so utterly barstardised by the coalition that it's now a dysfunctional pale shadow of what it should have been. My understanding is that government demands that NBNco recover it's construction costs with scant regard for the fact that it is crucial nation building infrastructure for a supposedly modern country. To comply with that demand, NBNco slugs the service providers with high costs to buy capacity on the network. The service providers respond to this by providing inferior connection speed packages at cost while charging high rates for their higher speed packages, meaning less people can afford to use them.

So it's weighted towards low-speed packages which means that the infrastructure is seriously under-used relative to it's potential and defeating the purpose of a modernised network.

So we have a very deliberate clusterfuck as a result of the obsession with the neo-liberal veiw. What should have been a relatively straightforward shift to a greatly superior system has been purposely hobbled.



Agree.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby BigOl64 » 24 Dec 2017, 04:14

pinkeye wrote:
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HBS Guy wrote:No. If the NBN you have is not FTTH you don’t have the NBN. I imagine vest swathes of rural Qld don’t have the NBN.



And how much is going to cost the QLD taxpayer to run FTTH for every single rural and regional house hold exactly?

As I said we have NBN, in what ever version that may be and it works just fine I run Netflix and foxtel through it and no problems, so why would I want another one?

Believe it or not Im not alone here no-one in NQ asked for another fucking NBN, we did ask for a base load power station and a PET Scanner, and support for any major projects that came our way, but it has been decided by the cunt from brisbane that she knows best about what we want and ignored any and all request from us.

What a fucking great leader that cunt is.


You obviously DON'T have NBN. You may well have ADSL or some such, but you do NOT have what the rest of Australia knows as the NBN.

If your region happened to get fibre to the home, then you may have it, but given your displayed pathetic level of details, I doubt it. I know 'LL LOOK IT UP. wHERE DO YOU LIVE AGAIN.? THE NT SOMEWHERE, ISN'T IT?

Darwin perhaps? Easy to look up. Where are you again? Just roughly will do.



I live in North QLD, I work in the NT and I do have NBN, have done for years

Maybe you have no need of detail and therefore receive none, you rude little shit. I don't demand you provide your personal details, as it is none of my fucking business, is it?

We have the NBN, it works fine, this is nothing more than a distraction by that cunt from brisbane to make up for destroying jobs in the north, this will never happen, it isn't even being reported in the news by any news source.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby Lefty » 24 Dec 2017, 08:12

BigOl64 wrote:
Lefty wrote:Morse code telegraph works fine - why didn't we just stick with that?

A few years ago I had a conversation with a crew of tech installers. They did the lot: copper, fibre, wireless, contracted to government, to big business, to small business. So they knew what they were on about.

They were absolutely incredulous as to how something they could see was simply the logical next step in communication infrastructure had become so politicised and declared some kind of enemy. The stupidity of Abbot beggars belief.

The NBN is not fine. The original plan has been so utterly barstardised by the coalition that it's now a dysfunctional pale shadow of what it should have been. My understanding is that government demands that NBNco recover it's construction costs with scant regard for the fact that it is crucial nation building infrastructure for a supposedly modern country. To comply with that demand, NBNco slugs the service providers with high costs to buy capacity on the network. The service providers respond to this by providing inferior connection speed packages at cost while charging high rates for their higher speed packages, meaning less people can afford to use them.

So it's weighted towards low-speed packages which means that the infrastructure is seriously under-used relative to it's potential and defeating the purpose of a modernised network.

So we have a very deliberate clusterfuck as a result of the obsession with the neo-liberal veiw. What should have been a relatively straightforward shift to a greatly superior system has been purposely hobbled.



So you have used the NBN in North Queensland have you?

I can stream netflix or foxtel and operate 2 computers simultaneously with heavy internet usage on 25 / 10.

What the fuck more do I or anyone one else want?


We do need cheap reliable base load power, we do need adequate medical facilities, we do need thousands of more jobs, we do need less fucking crime, we do NOT need to download German Midget Porn at a faster rate.


BTW I don't know why we are arguing, this is a standard ploy from both labor and LNP governments, to promise some major project to show they give a fuck. It is NEVER going to happen. So calm ya tits ladies you have been scammed by QLD labor, you'll learn to get used to it after a few years.


No - my area still does not have access. And when it finally does I don't see much point if it's still in it's current form.

You do realise that a fully functional NBN as originally envisaged could significantly enhance everything you point out that we need?
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby HBS Guy » 24 Dec 2017, 10:31

25/10, if that is right BigOle is on FTTH and doesn’t want anybody else to get it.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby BigOl64 » 24 Dec 2017, 13:30

Lefty wrote:
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Lefty wrote:Morse code telegraph works fine - why didn't we just stick with that?

A few years ago I had a conversation with a crew of tech installers. They did the lot: copper, fibre, wireless, contracted to government, to big business, to small business. So they knew what they were on about.

They were absolutely incredulous as to how something they could see was simply the logical next step in communication infrastructure had become so politicised and declared some kind of enemy. The stupidity of Abbot beggars belief.

The NBN is not fine. The original plan has been so utterly barstardised by the coalition that it's now a dysfunctional pale shadow of what it should have been. My understanding is that government demands that NBNco recover it's construction costs with scant regard for the fact that it is crucial nation building infrastructure for a supposedly modern country. To comply with that demand, NBNco slugs the service providers with high costs to buy capacity on the network. The service providers respond to this by providing inferior connection speed packages at cost while charging high rates for their higher speed packages, meaning less people can afford to use them.

So it's weighted towards low-speed packages which means that the infrastructure is seriously under-used relative to it's potential and defeating the purpose of a modernised network.

So we have a very deliberate clusterfuck as a result of the obsession with the neo-liberal veiw. What should have been a relatively straightforward shift to a greatly superior system has been purposely hobbled.



So you have used the NBN in North Queensland have you?

I can stream netflix or foxtel and operate 2 computers simultaneously with heavy internet usage on 25 / 10.

What the fuck more do I or anyone one else want?


We do need cheap reliable base load power, we do need adequate medical facilities, we do need thousands of more jobs, we do need less fucking crime, we do NOT need to download German Midget Porn at a faster rate.


BTW I don't know why we are arguing, this is a standard ploy from both labor and LNP governments, to promise some major project to show they give a fuck. It is NEVER going to happen. So calm ya tits ladies you have been scammed by QLD labor, you'll learn to get used to it after a few years.


No - my area still does not have access. And when it finally does I don't see much point if it's still in it's current form.

You do realise that a fully functional NBN as originally envisaged could significantly enhance everything you point out that we need?



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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby BigOl64 » 24 Dec 2017, 13:33

Lefty wrote:
BigOl64 wrote:
Lefty wrote:Morse code telegraph works fine - why didn't we just stick with that?

A few years ago I had a conversation with a crew of tech installers. They did the lot: copper, fibre, wireless, contracted to government, to big business, to small business. So they knew what they were on about.

They were absolutely incredulous as to how something they could see was simply the logical next step in communication infrastructure had become so politicised and declared some kind of enemy. The stupidity of Abbot beggars belief.

The NBN is not fine. The original plan has been so utterly barstardised by the coalition that it's now a dysfunctional pale shadow of what it should have been. My understanding is that government demands that NBNco recover it's construction costs with scant regard for the fact that it is crucial nation building infrastructure for a supposedly modern country. To comply with that demand, NBNco slugs the service providers with high costs to buy capacity on the network. The service providers respond to this by providing inferior connection speed packages at cost while charging high rates for their higher speed packages, meaning less people can afford to use them.

So it's weighted towards low-speed packages which means that the infrastructure is seriously under-used relative to it's potential and defeating the purpose of a modernised network.

So we have a very deliberate clusterfuck as a result of the obsession with the neo-liberal veiw. What should have been a relatively straightforward shift to a greatly superior system has been purposely hobbled.



So you have used the NBN in North Queensland have you?

I can stream netflix or foxtel and operate 2 computers simultaneously with heavy internet usage on 25 / 10.

What the fuck more do I or anyone one else want?


We do need cheap reliable base load power, we do need adequate medical facilities, we do need thousands of more jobs, we do need less fucking crime, we do NOT need to download German Midget Porn at a faster rate.


BTW I don't know why we are arguing, this is a standard ploy from both labor and LNP governments, to promise some major project to show they give a fuck. It is NEVER going to happen. So calm ya tits ladies you have been scammed by QLD labor, you'll learn to get used to it after a few years.


No - my area still does not have access. And when it finally does I don't see much point if it's still in it's current form.

You do realise that a fully functional NBN as originally envisaged could significantly enhance everything you point out that we need?



Better hope the current NBN gets to your place soon because the one that labor is supposedly putting is NEVER going to happen, it's a lie to cover up the fact they are actively destroying jobs in the north.

Ill keep saying it until it sinks in, you are being scammed and maybe too stupid to realise.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby Lefty » 27 Dec 2017, 07:55

The original NBN has already been transformed into a scam which will see it's overall potential badly under-used. Huge sums of money have been spent on something that was deliberately downgraded.

As for the QLD government proposal, maybe it'll come about, maybe it won't - I'll reserve judgement for now.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby HBS Guy » 27 Dec 2017, 08:19

Townsville has FTTH, anything since the 2013 election is copper and crap. ANY chance to upgrade from FTTN will be seized with both hands by anyone using the internet.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby Lefty » 27 Dec 2017, 08:43

HBS Guy wrote:Townsville has FTTH, anything since the 2013 election is copper and crap. ANY chance to upgrade from FTTN will be seized with both hands by anyone using the internet.


Wonder if BigOL lives in Townsville? I guess as "capitol of North QLD", Townsville probably received the rollout ahead of other places, before the libs came to power and sabotaged it.

The clue as to what constitutes an NBN in the first word of the name: National. Meaning everywhere, not just select places and for those who can justify paying the cost of running what was originally to be a public service as an entity directed to earn the equivalent of a commercial rate of return.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby BigOl64 » 30 Dec 2017, 16:31

Lefty wrote:
HBS Guy wrote:Townsville has FTTH, anything since the 2013 election is copper and crap. ANY chance to upgrade from FTTN will be seized with both hands by anyone using the internet.


Wonder if BigOL lives in Townsville? I guess as "capitol of North QLD", Townsville probably received the rollout ahead of other places, before the libs came to power and sabotaged it.

The clue as to what constitutes an NBN in the first word of the name: National. Meaning everywhere, not just select places and for those who can justify paying the cost of running what was originally to be a public service as an entity directed to earn the equivalent of a commercial rate of return.



I have told you all I live in the 'ville and I do have NBN and it does work fine.


Don't kid yourselves this is a non-event. a lie spun out by the cunt from brisbane to try and make up for destroying thousands of actual jobs in the north, there is not a single paper running this story, not a single person has mentioned it. You have been duped. :smack :smack
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby HBS Guy » 30 Dec 2017, 16:41

So you do have FTTH and don’t want anyone else to get it. It is a small and static amount of lucky people on FTTH. FTTN/FW/Sat do not work well, largely due to decisions by turdful and his cronies on the NBN Co board.

If large slabs of rural Qld can get FTTH thanks to the Qld Labor govt that is all to the good. The SA govt is rolling out 10Gbps FTTH to business precincts—NBN expects businesses to make do with FTTN. No sensible business wants that.

So, as Sol said, NBNs ain’t NBNs.
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby BigOl64 » 30 Dec 2017, 16:54

HBS Guy wrote:So you do have FTTH and don’t want anyone else to get it. It is a small and static amount of lucky people on FTTH. FTTN/FW/Sat do not work well, largely due to decisions by turdful and his cronies on the NBN Co board.

If large slabs of rural Qld can get FTTH thanks to the Qld Labor govt that is all to the good. The SA govt is rolling out 10Gbps FTTH to business precincts—NBN expects businesses to make do with FTTN. No sensible business wants that.

So, as Sol said, NBNs ain’t NBNs.



You ladies need to realise this is NEVER going to happen you have been duped by the lying cunt to cover up the fact she destroyed a few thousand jobs so she could get a few extra votes in brisbane.

That cunt will not spend a single cent north of noosa, it will NOT happen not now, not ever.


The NBN is the one the federal government builds, if labor wants to pay the extra wiring then it will federal labor, it is their policy anyway. But is will not be QLD labor doing shit for the north, so stop being a whiny little bitch and get over it.


We need things a lot more important that faster means of downloading porn
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby HBS Guy » 30 Dec 2017, 17:30

Adani would have employed 400-odd at the most, probably not NQlanders anyway.

The Qld govt has a hell of a lot of fibre around the place to offices of its various bodies, some of that could be used to give true superfast broadband to homes and businesses. Where cyclones don’t happen an aerial rollout might be possible, quick and cheap.

True superfast broadband—not FTTN, not FW (crippled as that is by microwave instead of fibre backhaul) and not satellite which has had way too many people put on it by NBN Co since the Libs came into government.

If you only use your internet to download porn that is your business. Many will use it to increase productivity, to end isolation, to attract new people to country towns and much more.
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
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Re: Wow, a Qld Labor project for NQ

Postby Lefty » 30 Dec 2017, 18:55

I have told you all I live in the 'ville


I don't think I was around when you mentioned that.

I actually don't mind Townsville (in winter), spent a fair bit of time there. Cousin lived up on the side of Castle hill, at least there was some breeze up there.

I do have NBN and it does work fine.


Well good for you, aren't you the lucky one? For fuck's sake, access to modern-day national communication infrastructure is not supposed to be a matter of luck. Unless your street has declared itself a sovereign nation then the National in NBN means a lot more households than just yours and a minority of others.

Imagine if all those years ago, government had decided to roll out the national telephone network in the same monumentally stupid fashion, with a lottery deciding which houses would get access to a modern phone and which would only get access to Morse code telegraph or worse - we'd be still living in the 19th century.

The NBN is not fine except for the lucky ones. It's an extrordinary dog's breakfast that is unfit for purpose and if the QLD government is prepared to offer people access to a modern network then I support that. Whether it actually happens or not may be another thing but let's not pretend that there is nothing wrong with the NBN, what has been done is a textbook example of how to fuck up national infrastructure delivery to bollocks and beyond.
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