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The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Aug 2012, 11:04

Tone is finished: he will not be LOTO by the time the spring sittings finish.

He is of no more use to the Libs now the Carbon Price has been accepted without fuss by the electorate. No more wrecking ball bullshit will work and Tone does not have the mental resources to change his approach, two previous attempts to switch to policy having lasted less than a couple of days.

The spring sittings are generally when a failed Leader is deposed (just think back to late 2006 when Rudd challenged Beasley. Barrie Cassidy:
Winter break is over, get set for the killing season
By ABC’s Barrie Cassidy

Posted August 10, 2012 08:39:33

The winter break for the politicians with all the glorious distractions, the overseas trips, holidays in the north and the Olympics, is about to end and the spring offensive is upon us.



The last days of the spring session, especially the last before an election, is not known as the “killing season” for nothing. It is traditionally the time when political parties, if they need to, tidy up the leadership before the Christmas break.

Read more: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-10/c ... er/4189944


Gillard is secure as PM, it is the LOTO who will be challenged and deposed. His remarks in China, that their investment in Australia is not wanted, was the last straw as far as business was concerned. They would already have been ruing their support for Tone as he has talked down the economy—and consequently their sales and profits.

I am sure the spring sessions were Rudd’s preferred time to challenge but Julia out maneuvered him effortlessly and his doomed challenge was too early and he was defeated decisively.

Disquiet at Tone (the actual wrecking ball) talking down the economy has been growing. And business did want certainty about the carbon price and now have it and, generally, don’t want that certainty overturned.

So, the new LOTO will also see a new policy re the carbon price, grumbling maybe but no words re rescinding it. Ditto for the MRRT, Plain Packaging etc. The ending of the scare campaign will also see the economy and employment kick up a notch higher (which they were about to do anyway because the fear of the Carbon Price has gone never to return.

Exciting times for political animals!
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Aug 2012, 12:12

Nice little post on PB summing up what I think about Tone:

I said last night that for the last couple of weeks Abbott has appeared wrong-footed and he isn’t setting the agenda anymore.

His overseas trip was a flop (as they usually are), his foreign investment paper was poorly received, his uncertainty over how to handle the PM’s attacks on the states over electricity increases, and yesterday appearing all over the shop on the unemployment figures.
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Aug 2012, 12:20

A corollary to Tone getting the Royal Order of the Boot is: who will be the new LOTO?

The wet dream of moderate (or “wet”) Lib fanbois is Turnbull. Too bad. There are fuck all wets left in the Fed Parliament so Turnbull will not be elected. Scott Morriscum, the next best known Lib attck dog (and complete lightweight) will likely get the nod—but won’t stay too long IMHO.

Will Peta Credlin be able to control Morrison like she did Abbott? Interesting times ahead!
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Aug 2012, 12:26

Now that it is becoming obvious Tone will go the MSM is playing the bellwether (so as to seem infallible, calling the shots whereas in fact the collected grubs and hacks and their bosses can’t see past the end of their noses:)
ABC radio tweeted, ‘Abbott’s Python of Deceit’!

Wow! If that kind of commentary starts to become widespread Abbott’s edifice of bullshit could well collapse very quickly. He really did look very disingenuous insisting that the electricity price rises were all the fault of the carbon tax while others in his party were saying the opposite.


(PB post)

Damn, what a time to be blocked from Twitter due to computer problems!
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby Lefty » 10 Aug 2012, 12:58

You know you're going to have to find a new avatar now :bgrin
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Aug 2012, 13:02

Something along the lines of “Iron Lady” (so much more apt for Gillard than Thatcher!) or “rangas for ever!”

One thing that might be adding some urgency to Lib councils: Newman. Not Newman himself so much, but Newman as template for PM Tone. Laura Tingle made this point in the AFR today.
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Aug 2012, 14:42

Would Hockey be the next LOTO? Presenting the two faces of Hockey aka Bobo the Buffoon:
Latika Bourke @latikambourke 6m
Joe Hockey - I've never heard before the argument that too much infrastructure in essential infrastructure is a bad thing. #Energy

Latika Bourke @latikambourke 10m
Joe Hockey - if Labor wins the next election and the #NBN rollout continues, I bet you the cost of it will double to roughly $70b.


So, can’t overinvest in electricity transmission/distribution but CAN overspend on telecoms/NBN?

Good luck selling that one, Bobo!

This is the policy–free morass the Libs have been creating, everything short term.
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Aug 2012, 15:31

Of course, the Libs might decide they can’t change LOTO now and that will be fine too. He will be increasingly out of his depth—and Julia increasingly on the front foot.

Rope a Dope strategy that Julia has been playing is moving into phase two.
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby Aussie » 10 Aug 2012, 16:20

The blue rinse brigade love Hockey the "Big Cuddly Bear." Problem he has is that no-one in the Party Room would vote for him.
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Aug 2012, 16:25

That isn’t true—he did get some votes last Leadership election, he was out maneuvered by Tone is all.

His cuddly teddy bear image is for public consumption only!
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Aug 2012, 20:35

HA! Did I say boats was all the dope had left? He was blathering and bloviating about boats this afternoon!

Nobody cares anymore Tone, we want to see some real policy!
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Aug 2012, 21:35

Two tweets to show how completely bare the Liberal policy cupboard is:

Latika Bourke @latikambourke 16m
Home Affairs Minister Jason Clare 'the Liberals and Greens are as bad as each other - both of them have refused to compromise at all.'

Latika Bourke @latikambourke 14m
Home Affairs Jason Clare - people smugglers have all got the internet, - they know Parliament is meeting next week and could do something.


Tone is the people smugglers’ best friend, the Greens their next bestest buddy. Both conservative parties, both using the deaths of men women and children for party political ends. How low can you go!
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Aug 2012, 21:47

Hmmmm, straws in the wind coming thick and fast:

David Ramli @Davidramli 47m
Malcolm Turnbull just warned against Aus leaders travelling to China and lecturing it on issues. Was that a jab at Tony Abbott?


Oh boy!
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 10 Aug 2012, 23:08

Tone decostructed:

TONY Abbott is a bully who hates women, and his outdated social views are a threat to national cohesion and plurality, according to a polemical new book.

In Tony Abbott: A Man's Man, academic and writer Susan Mitchell attempts to deconstruct the Opposition Leader's beliefs and character so that Australians "think again" about the man who came within a whisker of forming government after last year's general election.

Although Mr Abbott has surpassed Julia Gillard as preferred prime minister in the published polls since then, Dr Mitchell argues he is a sore loser, has a sense of entitlement and is driven by rage.

"He is extremely dangerous because he is a man of the past," Dr Mitchell told The Weekend Australian yesterday.

"I can't believe we could end up having a prime minister who doesn't believe a woman should have control over her own body."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 6154470110
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 11 Aug 2012, 20:39

Andrew Elder: http://andrewelder.blogspot.com.au/2012 ... power.html

It appears increasingly likely, even to the Canberra Press Gallery, that Tone has had his run and is political dead meat. He may last until the election—who is there to replace him?—the pain of the election loss in 2013 will be severe for the LNP.

I suspect the Nats may pick up a seat or two at the expense of the Libs (not Angry Anderson standing for the Nats in Liberal Gilmore) unless the El Nino summer to come shows farmers AGW is real and Barnaby full of shit. There are 2 three cornered contests (plus Gilmore) so far. Could be more when even Libs see another 3 years of Opposition looming and decide to opt for civilian life.

Greens will keep going down, to 8% support in 2013, and so losing Melbourne and a Senator or two. People don’t like so–called progressive parties causing desperate people to drown. Gillard will rephrase the asylum seeker debate to show Tone too is careless of other peoples’ lives.
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 11 Aug 2012, 21:57

MSM have caught the change in the wind! Tony Wright, far from the best and brightestthe press gallert in

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/ ... 23fkp.html

backtracks on his sneering piece of last week: Swan using Springsteen got attention and coverage of his speech even during an Olympic week and preceded Julia’s NDIS victory and this week going on the front foot on electricity prices and now Houston on asylum seekers and the Gonski reform to education funding.

Even Grattan knows the change is on! So do others like Hartcher etc.
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 12 Aug 2012, 12:00

Climate Spectator “Abbott crashes into carbon reality:

Tony Abbott has been joyriding with the community’s ignorance and fear over the carbon tax. But on October 24 his joyride will crash into an immovable wall of reality. That’s when the Bureau of Statistics releases its updated consumer price index, which will show that in spite of a notable rise in energy costs since July 1, the overall increase in the cost of living will have been small.

As explained by Alan Kohler in Business Spectator a few days ago, preliminary estimates of inflation by TD securities for July show that the price of many items has actually gone down over the past month. This is in spite of a 15 per cent rise in electricity costs and 10 per cent rise in price for gas and other fuels. Energy these days is just too small a component of household and business expenditure to seriously turn the dial of inflation.

With rises in the cost of living incredibly benign and unemployment low, Abbott’s monotonous droning about the carbon tax will start to wear extremely thin with the media pack. Consider this example from an interview with Sabra Lane of ABC Radio’s ‘AM’ program, discussing Gillard’s recent call for reform of electricity network regulation.


So, are the Libs going to wait until Oct 24 or will they act beforehand? A new LOTO should be given as much time as possible to get to grips with the job, start policy development (they really can’t leave this much longer) and become known favourably to the electorate. Aug 2012 is therefor much better than Mar 2013!

Of course, they are looking at the (meaningless) polls (without seeing the one statistic that matters, Tone’s abysmal approval levels) and thinking they don’t have to do anything. As I stated before, I am sure some hard heads in the Party know all this but getting the Lib caucus to act is another thing. Look for increasing tension, dissension and division in the Lib caucus.
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 16 Aug 2012, 22:43

Whatever we think morally of the Houston Report and the govts actions on it, but Tone is finished as LOTO!

Today a presser he held sank without trace, the journos in the CPG are getting board and todays QT and his SSSO was a fucking flop. Tony Windsor(!) was one of the speakers in reply, a Windsor in a towering rage at the lying, despiccable worm Abbott!

The Lib benches seemed preoccupied (and three were turfed for an hour by Anna, usually too permissive of bad behavior) and one guess: Leadership spill being mooted! Could happen next week, mark my words!
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby ele » 17 Aug 2012, 10:52

Saw Abbot interviewed on WIN(I think) this morning- looked old, and sounded like a broken record. Maybe you are right- perhaps show pony Tony has had his day.
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 17 Aug 2012, 14:00

A whisper on twitter that this session his hair is darker—he been at the dye pot like Andy Peacock? (And, my god, what an appropriate surname Andrew has!)
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 17 Aug 2012, 14:46

Ah yes, yesterday the smh ran an editorial by a blast from the past: Godwin Gretch! (Content of editorial was childish, hypocritical, partisan and self serving rubbish but let that slide. (search the smh site on Godwin and you will find it easy enough if you want to waste 10 minutes of your life reading the gobshyte’s mewling.

Why was the editorial written and published? To remind the LNP caucus of the lack of judgement of Turnbull? If so, that does indicate dissatisfaction with Tone as LOTO.
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 17 Aug 2012, 14:52

@AlboMP: Godwin Grech endorses Abbott SMH today #enoughsaid


When will Tone get the boot? Next week?
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby HBS Guy » 17 Aug 2012, 16:10

Hilarious tweet:

Seamus Santos @seamussantos 2m
So after Godwin Grech's article, what's next? Ivan Milat on travel safety? Jodie Rich on corporate governance? FFS


bwahahahaha
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Re: The last days of Abbott as LOTO

Postby Aussie » 17 Aug 2012, 16:29

HBS Guy wrote:Listen to Tony Windsor flay Abbott:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-16/w ... .svl=news2


Yes, Windsor did not leave anything in the tank. Abbott denies saying he would do anything other than to sell his arse. Maybe he offered it gratis, wot?
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