Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Discuss politics and current affairs here.

Hot topic: The scourge of negative gearing, Friends of the NBN and wrecking lives.  The economy and Poll tracking— all the polls. New! ELECTION 2016, Issues and Leaders

Special Feature 1: Peter Costello and our current deficits.
Special Feature 2: Dr Turnbull and the wrong NBN prescription
Special Feature 3: The Denigration of science, technology and education.
.
Forum rules
The rules for this board are in the Charter of Moderation. Politics is for serious discussion of politics, economics and current affairs.

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Nov 2013, 14:48

The war on women and gays keeps on going:

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2013/11 ... ion-bills/
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby ele » 12 Nov 2013, 06:45

"Ban abortions "that are solely based on whether the fetus is male or female," (AKA sex selection) "

So you don't agree with that?
ele
mountain lion
 
Posts: 806
Joined: 22 Dec 2009, 20:36

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 12 Nov 2013, 08:39

That is a strawman—practically no abortions are carried out for that purpose!

Not only that, under the guise of stopping abortion clinics that carry out other kinds of womens health services (e.g. cervical and breast screening, contraceptive advice etc) are being closed.
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 13 Nov 2013, 09:36

Looks like idiot church people want total control over poor peoples’ lives:

http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/2013/11 ... ance-poor/

48m uninsured Americans yet evangelical pastors against Obama’s affordable care act–want to donate instead of being taxed. Yeah, that’ll work, few thousand hick preachers covering health cost of 48m people.

Of course, we all know poor, sick, uneducated people are the most likely to go to church—and donate money to these bloodsuckers :sad
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 30 Nov 2013, 14:34

http://americablog.com/2013/11/texas-de ... texas.html

The other death penalty in Texas.

All this, ideology run wild, so will put it here.
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 01 Dec 2013, 13:02

Seems this bunch of bigots are behind a lot of the stop legal abortion crap:

Urban Family Communications is a multi-media communications network and outreach ministry. UFC is born from the conviction that the Black community deserves truth, more specifically, Biblical truth. We are a collection of people operating in ministry, media, and politics who are committed to one goal: the spiritual revitalization of urban communities.

UFC’s mission is: To inform and empower Black families to grow into mature disciples by wisely applying Biblical truth to our issues and interests. In short, we stand for truth, wisdom, and empowerment.

Not long ago our communities were overrun primarily by drugs and violence. Today we have a new perpetrator with which to contend… ethnicity. Increasingly, more and more Black Americans pledge allegiance to causes and people who stand blatantly opposed to God and His righteous requirements. We do it because we’ve been told our highest allegiance is to the color of our skin. Just as Esau shortsightedly traded his birthright for soup, black Americans have traded our deep, spiritual heritage for an allusion of progress that will never satisfy our souls.

UFC is designed to provide the basis for a unified movement in our country. Within this movement we believe that God still has a standard and He calls men everywhere to live by that standard. We believe the Church is still the body of Christ and an integral part of fulfilling the great commission. We believe spiritual compromise in the name of tolerance is not only ineffective but destructive. We believe the ability to think independently is an asset not a liability. We believe it’s important to celebrate our culture while not idolizing it. Finally, we believe that when the Black family turns back to Biblical truth, our communities will be transformed. When our communities are transformed, our nation will be transformed.

http://urbanfamilytalk.com/
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 02 Dec 2013, 09:42

Child sex abuse in institutions is part of this war, connections between church and other authorities presents an impregnable wall to a child or adult seeking justice:

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/arrogant- ... 2yjlj.html
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 03 Dec 2013, 11:17

How desperate governments are susceptible to doing deals with minority groups to erode womens rights over their own bodies:

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/aborti ... 2yluf.html
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 11 Dec 2013, 08:31

Another front in the battle for control is teachers. If the Libs actually manage to turn public schools into “independent” schools this sort of SHIT will happen here too (will happen EVEN MORE in Qld:)

Biology teachers often dismiss evolution

evolution.jpgAlmost a century after the famed Scopes Monkey Trial, battles over teaching evolution versus creationism in US public schools persist – but they have shifted to individual classrooms where teachers have a vast influence over whether evolution is present, a new study finds. In the courtroom, advocates for creationist thinking, or its re-packaged equivalent “intelligent design”, have lost nearly every major case in the last 40 years. While this has undoubtedly helped set a high scientific standard for state curricula, the study finds that a majority of public high school teachers are either uncomfortable with teaching evolution or doubtful of its accuracy.

“The official state content standards actually have very little impact on the way teachers teach in the classroom,” says Eric Plutzer, a political scientist from Pennsylvania State University in University Park, who co-authored the paper, which appears 27 January in Science. The major factors affecting what teachers taught were their own personal values and beliefs as well as the values and culture of their community, he adds.

Plutzer and his co-author, Michael Berkman, also of Pennsylvania State University, used a nationally representative sample of 926 public biology instructors and found that less than a third of teachers consistently crafted their lesson plans around evolution. At the same time, about 13% of teachers spent an hour or more of class time presenting creationism “in a positive light”.


http://blogs.nature.com/news/2011/01/bi ... smiss.html

Keep them ignorant, keep them poor is the church’s motto (doesn’t matter what church!)
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 05 Jan 2014, 12:34

I am putting this here—the war on science is all one with the war on womens reproductive rights, the war on gays—all a mad attempt to turn back the clock. “Stop the World I Want to Get Off” was a supposedly comic film. Conservatives seem to treat it seriously.

Mad! You cannot turn back the clock—you can inflict damage and loss tho!

http://thetyee.ca/News/2013/12/23/Canad ... Libraries/
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby annielaurie » 05 Jan 2014, 14:53

This is one of the most appalling things I've read in a long time! Throwing away one-of-a-kind scientific research?

Just dumping the work of professionals who spent years working on their science projects and peer reviewed papers? Throwing it all away in a landfill, burning everything in a bonfire? What can they be thinking? Unbelievable! Claiming they are digitilizing it all, which is a baldfaced lie!

Unbelievable!

:mad
.
User avatar
annielaurie
Administrator
 
Posts: 2744
Joined: 05 Nov 2009, 12:39
spamone: Animal

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 05 Jan 2014, 15:19

So sad. Conservatives are like a troop of baboons, can destroy and ravage but can’t build, think, reason.
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 08 Jan 2014, 08:35

Meanwhile, as the law's restrictions, including requiring abortion providers to have admitting privileges at local hospitals, take effect, Texas women are being forced to travel greater and greater distances, at greater and greater expense, to obtain abortions. Women in rural areas, and especially undocumented immigrants, face enormous hurdles, with long travel distances that can include border checkpoints. As a result, more and more women are attempting self-induced abortions using the ulcer drug misoprostol. Though misoprostol often works, the fact that women are turning to an off-label use of an illegally obtained drug without medical care is a strong reminder that Texas Republicans were always lying when they claimed that the clinic-closing law was about women's health. [My emphasis]


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/01/0 ... strictions
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby annielaurie » 09 Jan 2014, 06:09

Yup, the situation is getting pretty intense in Texas these days.

The people want what's right and most still have common sense and the ability to think and reason, while the gov has gone off the deep end with their petty faith-based convictions, especially on issues of women's rights and reproductive health.

You and I weren't the only ones who were impressed with Wendy Davis' fillibuster last year, that was an event to be remembered, and I can see a reality of Hillary & Wendy on the Dems ticket for 2016.

:buddy
.
User avatar
annielaurie
Administrator
 
Posts: 2744
Joined: 05 Nov 2009, 12:39
spamone: Animal

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 09 Jan 2014, 07:12

That’d be a wonderful ticket, but doubt it will happen—two women at the top? Just look at the crap Gillard had to endure here.
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 17 Feb 2014, 08:43

Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 20 Feb 2014, 22:15

Doctor has licence to practice removed under Texan omnibus abortion Bill, clinic has to shut down—women lose vital services. Crazy!

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/02/texas ... e-abortion
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby annielaurie » 21 Feb 2014, 03:36

This article shows the insanity of the conservative religious mindset, in Texas, and some other states too, and it is spreading everywhere in my country now. There is no common sense anymore.

People are uneducated and want to stay ignorant. They refuse to learn science and reason. They chose religion and magical thinking instead. They think they are going to heaven and everybody else is going to hell when they die. They're crazy.

Notice the picture of our courageous and lovely Wendy Davis! Does she have a snowball's change in hell to get elected governor in Texas? I have my doubts, with the kind of mindset going on there.

Our "religious right" in the evangelical fundamentalist southern states are calling the shots now. They want religion in government, they have lost track of separation of church and state, and so have the fundie lawmakers .. especially in the American south.

I am ashamed that this nonsense is going on in my country.

Here is the best atheist website for secular reason and science, Richard Dawkins. Too bad he is in the UK, people like him are what we need here in the USA,

http://www.richarddawkins.net

Here are some very good science websites, without any religious crap mixed in,

http://www.livescience.com
http://www.space.com
http://sciencebasedlife.wordpress.com/about/

And here is one about science, the cosmos and philosophy, this is excellent, Closer to Truth,

http://www.closertotruth.com

Here is PBS, as we know it here in the USA, they offer wonderful documentaries about science and just about any subject you can imagine, once again without the religion,

http://www.pbs.org

Enjoy!

:read
.
User avatar
annielaurie
Administrator
 
Posts: 2744
Joined: 05 Nov 2009, 12:39
spamone: Animal

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 21 Feb 2014, 06:06

And in those Southern States, the red states, with the draconian pro–business, anti–worker legislation—have the worst performing economies! When you don’t know whether you will be fired tomorrow you aren’t going to lash out on big spending!
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby annielaurie » 21 Feb 2014, 13:49

That's right, boss. Hard working folks getting laid off at the drop of a hat. Unemployment compensation, but only for awhile, then you are on your own. There goes your savings. Max out your credit cards and hope for the best. Some are unemployed for more than two years now, even with good references and job skills.

Can't get a new job anymore. Most places hiring will refuse applications from folks who are unemployed! You have to have a job already even to get a new job! Now does that make any fucking sense at all?

Did you take a look at those links I left, above? Some excellent websites for people who have a brain and want to learn something other than fucking religion.

:nah
.
User avatar
annielaurie
Administrator
 
Posts: 2744
Joined: 05 Nov 2009, 12:39
spamone: Animal

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 21 Feb 2014, 15:04

Haven’t looked at your links yet my dear—frantically busy on preparations for combined birthday party tomorrow night.
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 18 Mar 2014, 21:20

Gillard was so right, always another man jumps up to try and undo abortion reform:

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/state ... 34z33.html
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 23 Mar 2014, 09:58

Sick!

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/03/purit ... d-lord-and

read the fucking comments, urrghhh!
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 30 Mar 2014, 11:24

Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

Re: Control of womens’s bodies by churches?

Postby HBS Guy » 15 May 2014, 15:49

Another prong on the attack on science/spread of ignorance, superstition and control:

Unvaccinated Amish help create largest US measles outbreak in 20 years
Some Amish missionaries from Ohio decided to go to the Philippines to do some aid work after a recent devastating typhoon.

The missionaries’ parents didn’t bother vaccinating them as children.

Nor did the missionaries bother getting vaccinated as adults.

So they went to the Philippines and brought back a very special gift for the people of Ohio: A measles outbreak that’s become the worst in the US in nearly 20 years.

And you thought the Amish were only good at making furniture.

Our own Dr. Thoma wrote previously about the growing problem of resurgent diseases in the US due to the anti-vaccine movement — a kind of birther/truther movement that is convinced vaccines cause autism (they don’t).

Apparently the Amish have traditionally low vaccination rates among their children. (And why exactly is that tolerated by the local health department the state of Ohio?) But that’s no excuse for not being vaccinated as an adult, and for not getting your shots before you go on a trip to a foreign region that’s been devastated in a disaster, which often means disease takes hold. Anyone who does international work, especially relief work, knows about getting vaccinated. Who organized this trip? Who let these people go without checking on the health situation in the Philippines, and the vaccination status of the missionaries?


http://americablog.com/2014/05/unvaccin ... -ohio.html

Similar ignorance is helping retard spread of renewable energy.
Abbott & Co are going to cause the mother and father of all recessions—be prepared!
User avatar
HBS Guy
Tractors to Australia
 
Posts: 40647
Joined: 27 Oct 2009, 15:37

PreviousNext

Return to Politics

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Aussie, Squire and 1 guest