greggerypeccary wrote: pinkeye wrote: johnsmith wrote:
Things aren't better overseas.
no one said they were 'better'.
one of the main reasons for travelling overseas is not because things are better, but because things are different. You get to see how other people live, other cultures etc.
don't let your jealousy make you bitter
You get me wrong. BUT, how long do you spend absorbing these OTHER cultures..?
Do you stay and visit for a month or two? In a Villa perhaps.?
Do you live there for a few months..?
A year perhaps, you know? so you actually speak to locals..?
Or are you a tourist.. a day or two here, another week or so somewhere else. Do you honestly think , in your arrogance, that you really can see how people you impose on with your huge ships and money, actually truly are? Oh you go to Peru, and trek on a donkey or some such,up a mountain range or two and you think you know something>/??
I call your justifications for rampant consumersism BULLSHIT.
How LONG do you spend to assimilate and LEARN about these cultures. Do you do the rounds of the Palaces Cathedrals and Art Galleries. Are you part of that throng of tourists that get a visceral pleasure from saying.. oh I observed these quaint Italians cooking pasta..?
Perhaps you looked at the poor, and the mountain villages..? Or do you troop along with all the other tourists, marvelling at the buildings and then move on the next day to somewhere else.
Do you walk ..?
You say you SEE … do you really.?
How do you get there?. Fly in for a few days and fly out to somewhere else.?? Arrive on a monster Cruise ship.?
I'm really interested to hear from you all on this.
Yes, I see.
I see lots of things when I visit other countries.
Things you can't "see" properly from a photo or TV show.
My most memorable overseas experience was visiting Auschwitz.
I've never been on a holiday where I just lay by the pool and relax.
I always spend my days walking around, trying the food, visiting the museums, admiring the landscape etc.
Personally, I'd find it a waste of money going to another country and just lazing on the beach all day.
I can do that here.
Exactly right, you can only open your eyes to how other's live, and can compare, and realize if we are in the lucky country or not.
Last year, having gone to see an extensive bus ride through China, has shown me how they really live there, it was an eye opener.
Otherwise, how can we feel any sympathy for any Chinese if we don't know or understand their way of real living in their own country?
I went to see my mother's long lost rellies in California 3 years ago, separated by their fathers 100 years ago after the 1st WW.
Some went to USA, some stayed in Italy, and very few came to Australia.
We learnt a lot from each other and the differences in the upbringing since the 1920's in different countries.
The USA rellies were amazed they even had rellies in Australia. And I taught them a lot about our country they would not have known otherwise.
Not all people have to travel to learn about other cultures, sometimes, travellers teach you things about other countries, it's a "walk the walk and talk the talk" type thing, which I prefer.
Yes, I had to foreceable go to Bali, which I never intended to go, but for the son's wedding. And I learnt a lot about their cultures, may as well, while I am there, and I deliberately walk into the poorer areas and market places,
and talk to the locals. As I did with China, not the glossy stuff, I want to see the real way people live.
To learn of how others live in their own country, teaches empathy, understanding, compassion. Even to the point I feel sorry for them.
I recall how poor Fiji was, when I went there some 17 years ago. I saw how they lived, in a 2 hour taxi drive, how they sell stuff off the roads (fruits they grown in their own yard), and how they lived in a tin shack, the type of tin shack farmers put their tractors in around here.
Again, I felt sympathy.
If I never went, and only saw the 'glossy' magazines advertising these destinations as holidays, how would I ever really understand, or be in the know?
I do take my time and talk to locals, and hear what they have to say about their own lives.
That's my thinking when I go overseas to 'holiday'.
A lot of these destinations rely on tourists money being spent, it's what helps them keep afloat.