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Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby johnsmith » 28 Mar 2019, 18:10

Facebook has announced it will ban praise, support and representation of white nationalism and white separatism on its social media platforms, bolstering its efforts to tackle hate speech.

The policy will be enforced next week, the social media giant said in a blog post.

The company previously allowed such material even though it has long banned hate speech. The social network said it did not apply the ban previously to expressions of white nationalism because it linked such expressions with broader concepts of nationalism and separatism — such as American pride or Basque separatism (which are still allowed).

But civil rights groups and academics called this view "misguided" and have long pressured the company to change its stance. Facebook said it concluded after months of "conversations" with them that white nationalism and separatism could not be meaningfully separated from white supremacy and organised hate groups.

"Over the past three months our conversations with members of civil society and academics who are experts in race relations around the world have confirmed that white nationalism and separatism cannot be meaningfully separated from white supremacy and organised hate groups," the company said.

"Going forward … we will not tolerate praise or support for white nationalism and separatism."

President and executive director of the Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law Kristen Clarke said critics of Facebook's previous policy had "raised these issues to the highest levels".

"This is long overdue as the country continues to deal with the grip of hate and the increase in violent white supremacy," she said.

"We need the tech sector to do its part to combat these efforts."

Though Facebook said it had been working on the change for three months, it came less than two weeks after the company received widespread criticism after the suspect in shootings at two New Zealand mosques that killed 50 people was able to broadcast the massacre live on Facebook.

As part of the change, people who search for terms associated with white supremacy will be directed to a group called Life After Hate, which was founded by former extremists who want to help people leave the violent far-right.

Ms Clarke called the idea that white supremacism was different from white nationalism or white separatism a misguided "distinction without a difference".

She said the New Zealand attack was a "powerful reminder about why we need the tech sector to do more to stamp out the conduct and activity of violent white supremacists".

Life After Hate did not immediately respond to a request for comment.



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-28/facebook-to-ban-white-nationalism-and-white-separatism/10946990




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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby pinkeye » 28 Mar 2019, 22:03

Yes ASSUMING the same applies to ALL NATIONALISTIC rubbish. Like supporters of One Nation for example. :bgrin
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby Texan » 29 Mar 2019, 02:13

FB is a private network and it can do what it wants, but does that mean that they allow supporting racism and separatism from other races? Can blacks demand their own country? Can aborigines demand their own country? This FB measure seems like a knee jerk reaction to a terrorist attack and they are playing into the terrorists wishes of starting a race war or culture war by silencing racism in one group while doing nothing to stop it with other groups.
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby Sprintcyclist » 29 Mar 2019, 02:25

Will they also ban all muslim chat ?

they do terrorist attacks too
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby DonDeeHippy » 29 Mar 2019, 04:35

Sprintcyclist wrote:Will they also ban all muslim chat ?

they do terrorist attacks too

umm most white nationalist say they are Christian too, so your logic they will have to ban Christian chat :) :purple
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby HBS Guy » 29 Mar 2019, 07:27

Logic and Sprinty have only the most tenuous connection.
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby Dax » 29 Mar 2019, 14:04

HBS Guy wrote:Logic and Sprinty have only the most tenuous connection.


Why are you so biased towards the most evil, violent and destructive cult on the planet, yet denounce those who stand up to it. If they are going to ban anyone, they should ban all religious from posting and expressing or exhibiting their beliefs.

Have no time for right or left, the majority are moronic god nutters any way.
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby johnsmith » 29 Mar 2019, 16:01

Texan wrote:FB is a private network and it can do what it wants, but does that mean that they allow supporting racism and separatism from other races? Can blacks demand their own country? Can aborigines demand their own country? This FB measure seems like a knee jerk reaction to a terrorist attack and they are playing into the terrorists wishes of starting a race war or culture war by silencing racism in one group while doing nothing to stop it with other groups.


Sprintcyclist wrote:Will they also ban all muslim chat ?

they do terrorist attacks too



they long ago banned extremist Islamic chat ... and not a peep out of either of you. Now because it's white extremists it's a problem? :roll :roll
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby Bongalong » 30 Mar 2019, 12:29

Texan wrote:FB is a private network and it can do what it wants, but does that mean that they allow supporting racism and separatism from other races? Can blacks demand their own country? Can aborigines demand their own country? This FB measure seems like a knee jerk reaction to a terrorist attack and they are playing into the terrorists wishes of starting a race war or culture war by silencing racism in one group while doing nothing to stop it with other groups.

It's a private network---> it can do all the virtue signalling it wants to because as a stock market entity it's consumers aren't, by law, its priority: it's shareholders are! :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :gsp
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby Bongalong » 30 Mar 2019, 12:32

johnsmith wrote:
Texan wrote:FB is a private network and it can do what it wants, but does that mean that they allow supporting racism and separatism from other races? Can blacks demand their own country? Can aborigines demand their own country? This FB measure seems like a knee jerk reaction to a terrorist attack and they are playing into the terrorists wishes of starting a race war or culture war by silencing racism in one group while doing nothing to stop it with other groups.


Sprintcyclist wrote:Will they also ban all muslim chat ?

they do terrorist attacks too


they long ago banned extremist Islamic chat ... and not a peep out of either of you. Now because it's white extremists it's a problem? :roll :roll

Have you accepted what happened on September 11, 2001, yet or are you still in denial? :roll
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby Bongalong » 30 Mar 2019, 12:34

DonDeeHippy wrote:
Sprintcyclist wrote:Will they also ban all muslim chat ?

they do terrorist attacks too

umm most white nationalist say they are Christian too, so your logic they will have to ban Christian chat :) :purple

Have you accepted what happened on spetember 11, 2001, yet or are you still in denial?
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby johnsmith » 30 Mar 2019, 17:43

Bongalong wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
Texan wrote:FB is a private network and it can do what it wants, but does that mean that they allow supporting racism and separatism from other races? Can blacks demand their own country? Can aborigines demand their own country? This FB measure seems like a knee jerk reaction to a terrorist attack and they are playing into the terrorists wishes of starting a race war or culture war by silencing racism in one group while doing nothing to stop it with other groups.


Sprintcyclist wrote:Will they also ban all muslim chat ?

they do terrorist attacks too


they long ago banned extremist Islamic chat ... and not a peep out of either of you. Now because it's white extremists it's a problem? :roll :roll

Have you accepted what happened on September 11, 2001, yet or are you still in denial? :roll



maybe if the US, and the west in general, hadn't been getting involved in Middle eastern affairs for 100 years prior to 9/11 some nutter wouldn't have tried to get his own deranged form of payback
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby Bongalong » 31 Mar 2019, 16:03

johnsmith wrote:
Bongalong wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
Texan wrote:FB is a private network and it can do what it wants, but does that mean that they allow supporting racism and separatism from other races? Can blacks demand their own country? Can aborigines demand their own country? This FB measure seems like a knee jerk reaction to a terrorist attack and they are playing into the terrorists wishes of starting a race war or culture war by silencing racism in one group while doing nothing to stop it with other groups.


Sprintcyclist wrote:Will they also ban all muslim chat ?

they do terrorist attacks too


they long ago banned extremist Islamic chat ... and not a peep out of either of you. Now because it's white extremists it's a problem? :roll :roll

Have you accepted what happened on September 11, 2001, yet or are you still in denial? :roll



maybe if the US, and the west in general, hadn't been getting involved in Middle eastern affairs for 100 years prior to 9/11 some nutter wouldn't have tried to get his own deranged form of payback

You're being a bit vague!

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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby johnsmith » 31 Mar 2019, 19:47

Bongalong wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
Bongalong wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
Texan wrote:FB is a private network and it can do what it wants, but does that mean that they allow supporting racism and separatism from other races? Can blacks demand their own country? Can aborigines demand their own country? This FB measure seems like a knee jerk reaction to a terrorist attack and they are playing into the terrorists wishes of starting a race war or culture war by silencing racism in one group while doing nothing to stop it with other groups.


Sprintcyclist wrote:Will they also ban all muslim chat ?

they do terrorist attacks too


they long ago banned extremist Islamic chat ... and not a peep out of either of you. Now because it's white extremists it's a problem? :roll :roll

Have you accepted what happened on September 11, 2001, yet or are you still in denial? :roll



maybe if the US, and the west in general, hadn't been getting involved in Middle eastern affairs for 100 years prior to 9/11 some nutter wouldn't have tried to get his own deranged form of payback

You're being a bit vague!

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:WTF

I thought I was being very clear
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby Texan » 31 Mar 2019, 22:33

If America had stayed out of world politics for the past 100 years, you’d be speaking German or Japanese. I’m all for bringing a lot of troops home and letting the world police itself, if I ever get to make that call.
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby Bongalong » 01 Apr 2019, 11:10

johnsmith wrote:
Bongalong wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
Bongalong wrote:
johnsmith wrote:
Texan wrote:FB is a private network and it can do what it wants, but does that mean that they allow supporting racism and separatism from other races? Can blacks demand their own country? Can aborigines demand their own country? This FB measure seems like a knee jerk reaction to a terrorist attack and they are playing into the terrorists wishes of starting a race war or culture war by silencing racism in one group while doing nothing to stop it with other groups.


Sprintcyclist wrote:Will they also ban all muslim chat ?

they do terrorist attacks too


they long ago banned extremist Islamic chat ... and not a peep out of either of you. Now because it's white extremists it's a problem? :roll :roll

Have you accepted what happened on September 11, 2001, yet or are you still in denial? :roll



maybe if the US, and the west in general, hadn't been getting involved in Middle eastern affairs for 100 years prior to 9/11 some nutter wouldn't have tried to get his own deranged form of payback

You're being a bit vague!

:gsp


:WTF

I thought I was being very clear

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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby Bongalong » 01 Apr 2019, 11:11

Texan wrote:If America had stayed out of world politics for the past 100 years, you’d be speaking German or Japanese. I’m all for bringing a lot of troops home and letting the world police itself, if I ever get to make that call.

John is too, sort of................................................ :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby johnsmith » 01 Apr 2019, 16:28

Texan wrote:If America had stayed out of world politics for the past 100 years, you’d be speaking German or Japanese. I’m all for bringing a lot of troops home and letting the world police itself, if I ever get to make that call.


It's not just the USA, the west has been getting involved in the middle east in some way shape or form for well over 100 years. Is it any surprise then that some over there get pissed off with the west meddling?
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby Bongalong » 02 Apr 2019, 15:14

johnsmith wrote:
Texan wrote:If America had stayed out of world politics for the past 100 years, you’d be speaking German or Japanese. I’m all for bringing a lot of troops home and letting the world police itself, if I ever get to make that call.


It's not just the USA, the west has been getting involved in the middle east in some way shape or form for well over 100 years. Is it any surprise then that some over there get pissed off with the west meddling?

You're still being very vague!

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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby HBS Guy » 02 Apr 2019, 15:26

America was isolationist in the the 1930s and early 1940s. Her reward? Having a battleship fleet sunk and thousands killed in Pearl Harbor. Now the orange douchebag is again instituting isolationism. Hey, maybe the idiot will bring in Prohibition again!
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby Bongalong » 02 Apr 2019, 15:55

HBS Guy wrote:America was isolationist in the the 1930s and early 1940s. Her reward? Having a battleship fleet sunk and thousands killed in Pearl Harbor. Now the orange douchebag is again instituting isolationism. Hey, maybe the idiot will bring in Prohibition again!

What tf are you on about? You want to legalise marijuana to kill off the mexican drug cartels aswell do ya?

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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby HBS Guy » 02 Apr 2019, 16:01

Read what I posted, idiot. A less isolationist US would have kept Japan in check.

Yes, Prohibition did not work for alcohol in the 1920s-30s and is not working for drugs now.
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby Bongalong » 02 Apr 2019, 16:25

HBS Guy wrote:Read what I posted, idiot. A less isolationist US would have kept Japan in check.

Yes, Prohibition did not work for alcohol in the 1920s-30s and is not working for drugs now.

So, monk want's an active us of a :yak yak

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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

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You are misquoting me.
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Re: Facebook to ban white nationalism

Postby Bongalong » 03 Apr 2019, 17:25

HBS Guy wrote:You are misquoting me.

The context is, you would never get away with telling johnny or mothra that you think the usa should have had a more active role back then!
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