The biggest myth in Australian history

[Miranda]

Laplanders live in primitive ways.

As did the Iñupiat until recent times. And, there are still tribes in South America where there has been little western contact, if any!

[Auggie]

What I mean is that our first people are basically unique in the world.

An entire continent , which saw virtually NO foreign incursion for tens of thousands of years, with a viable society that has existed in isolation for that length of time. Perhaps in far northern climes, exist other peoples who retain a unique identity.
Archaeology has shown many others arrived on these shores, but that was long ago , and these explorers failed to flourish. No surprise, given they were from the Northern hemisphere. They couldn't achieve critical mass.

A continent which is mostly arid, still had people in the toughest places to live.

There is no where else in the world that have such incredible people.

Which means ..? we should honour them.... not seek to exterminate this most ancient lore.

I totally agree with the last point. We should honour them. But, we shouldn't do it by trying to make their culture something it was not just to make ourselves feel better. Complexity doesn't mean superiority; it means that it's different.

[Auggie]

Laplanders live in primitive ways.

You used the word 'primitive', not me.

Simple doesn't mean inferior. Complexity doesn't mean superior.

[Kunning]

interesting. i was unaware of their farming prowess, or even that they lived in villages. I always thought they were constantly on the move

They only moved about where it was sensible to move about. But it suits our purposes to present them as beneath us as we can.

It's disgusting.

I'm glad someone is trying to set the record straight

Nonsense. These people are racists. They won't even let decent white people walk on a silly rock.

[Kunning]

What I mean is that our first people are basically unique in the world.

An entire continent , which saw virtually NO foreign incursion for tens of thousands of years, with a viable society that has existed in isolation for that length of time. Perhaps in far northern climes, exist other peoples who retain a unique identity.
Archaeology has shown many others arrived on these shores, but that was long ago , and these explorers failed to flourish. No surprise, given they were from the Northern hemisphere. They couldn't achieve critical mass.

A continent which is mostly arid, still had people in the toughest places to live.

There is no where else in the world that have such incredible people.

Which means ..? we should honour them.... not seek to exterminate this most ancient lore.

I totally agree with the last point. We should honour them. But, we shouldn't do it by trying to make their culture something it was not just to make ourselves feel better. Complexity doesn't mean superiority; it means that it's different.

Inferior culture, innit.

[Auggie]

What I mean is that our first people are basically unique in the world.

An entire continent , which saw virtually NO foreign incursion for tens of thousands of years, with a viable society that has existed in isolation for that length of time. Perhaps in far northern climes, exist other peoples who retain a unique identity.
Archaeology has shown many others arrived on these shores, but that was long ago , and these explorers failed to flourish. No surprise, given they were from the Northern hemisphere. They couldn't achieve critical mass.

A continent which is mostly arid, still had people in the toughest places to live.

There is no where else in the world that have such incredible people.

Which means ..? we should honour them.... not seek to exterminate this most ancient lore.

I totally agree with the last point. We should honour them. But, we shouldn't do it by trying to make their culture something it was not just to make ourselves feel better. Complexity doesn't mean superiority; it means that it's different.

Inferior culture, innit.

You’re conflating simplicity with inferiority.

That what the white supremecists do.

[pinkeye]

yes its all BS really.

There is NO argument, in that the people exist, despite all, and for some midget-minds to want to argue about the minutiae, just proves the point.

They want to continue to maintain the status quo... but its time we grew up, and stopped being afraid and guilt-ridden , for the actions of the past.

Much better to recognise what is.

These people are. Pretend all the BS you want, but realise you are in the WRONG.

[Sprintcyclist]

hogwash - the biggest myth is that there was anyone here before us beautiful white people.

[HBS Guy]

[Auggie]

yes its all BS really.

There is NO argument, in that the people exist, despite all, and for some midget-minds to want to argue about the minutiae, just proves the point.

They want to continue to maintain the status quo... but its time we grew up, and stopped being afraid and guilt-ridden , for the actions of the past.

Much better to recognise what is.

These people are. Pretend all the BS you want, but realise you are in the WRONG.

Yes, we committed atrocities against the indigenous peoples. Yes, we treated them maliciously. Yes we are responsible for their plight.

No ones pretending anything, pinkeye.

[pinkeye]

sounds like pretentious crap to me

[Auggie]

sounds like pretentious crap to me

No i think that you were caught quite off guard by my comments.

[pinkeye]

perhaps

IF you believe what you wrote.

I ask you if you believe this essential truth ….

Yes, we committed atrocities against the indigenous peoples. Yes, we treated them maliciously. Yes we are responsible for their plight.

No ones pretending anything, pinkeye.


………………… this truth as you have elucidated in your own words (above) has any relevance whatever to the subject.?

[Auggie]

perhaps

IF you believe what you wrote.

I ask you if you believe this essential truth ….

Yes, we committed atrocities against the indigenous peoples. Yes, we treated them maliciously. Yes we are responsible for their plight.

No ones pretending anything, pinkeye.


………………… this truth as you have elucidated in your own words (above) has any relevance whatever to the subject.?

Not if you believe that race and culture are separate.

Do you believe they are separate?

[johnsmith]

Do you believe they are separate?

of course they are seperate, although each is heavily influenced by the other. Not all white anglo peoples share the same culture. Just as not all asian cultures are the same, nor are all African.

[Auggie]

Do you believe they are separate?

of course they are seperate, although each is heavily influenced by the other. Not all white anglo peoples share the same culture. Just as not all asian cultures are the same, nor are all African.

Ergo, criticising a culture is not equivalent to racism. Agreed?

[johnsmith]

Do you believe they are separate?

of course they are seperate, although each is heavily influenced by the other. Not all white anglo peoples share the same culture. Just as not all asian cultures are the same, nor are all African.

Ergo, criticising a culture is not equivalent to racism. Agreed?

Whilst technically, you are correct, realistically it can be and often is. As I said, one heavily influences the other

[Auggie]

Do you believe they are separate?

of course they are seperate, although each is heavily influenced by the other. Not all white anglo peoples share the same culture. Just as not all asian cultures are the same, nor are all African.

Ergo, criticising a culture is not equivalent to racism. Agreed?

Whilst technically, you are correct, realistically it can be and often is. As I said, one heavily influences the other

Correct. Often it is code or dog whistling to racists.

[pinkeye]

what they said