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More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby mothra » 07 Jul 2018, 11:59

More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now family violence related


Domestic and family violence has been linked to 41 per cent of all murders in NSW since 2013.

Two teenagers killed by their estranged father in Sydney's north will be added to the toll and filed with more than 30,000 other reports of domestic or family violence made to police each year.

The most common targets are partners, but 3459 children were victims of domestic assault in the most recent 12 months of police data, which also recorded 15 murderers in family homes between April 2017 and March 2018. Three of the 15 people charged with murder in these cases were female, most of the offenders were aged between 20-39 and five victims were aged over 60.

There has been a significant decline in domestic violence in NSW between 2008-09 and 2015-16 but the discrete nature of family violence challenges the justice system and family courts have been accused of trying to preserve the family unit ahead of child safety.

Some family court orders may also be hindering police enforcing apprehended domestic violence orders (ADVO). A recent study found a quarter of intimate partner homicides were committed by men subject to DV orders.

While NSW courts are meant to complete ADVOs within three months, when children are involved, some areas, such as Macarthur, have cases wait for more than six if they are contested.

Women’s Domestic Violence Court Advocacy Services of NSW (WDVCAS) support women and children through the court process and its chair, Tanya Whitehouse, said the main problem is a "matter of resources, on all levels, with the workload, there aren't enough courts, there aren't enough magistrates".

"For it to take years for someone to sort out a family law matter is just not OK," Ms Whitehouse said.

"Delays in court matters can contribute to or escalate the problem but domestic violence is always about control and power.

"There are fantastic domestic violence services out there that are really restricted by their resources and a lack of funding."

Some women are accused of using domestic violence in a vexatious way to gain an advantage in family law matters but this is predominantly not the case, Ms Whitehouse, who has worked on this issue for 25 years, said.

"WDVCAS do experience police being unable to charge a defendant with breaches of an ADVO due to family law orders that are in place," Ms Whitehouse said. "I think overall in the sector we only see the tip of the iceberg for disclosures of domestic violence.

"[It] is not dictated by your socio-economic status, it doesn't discriminate between your age, the colour of your skin, where you live or how much money you earn.

"Domestic violence happens everywhere and everyone is entitled to be safe, particularly women and children."

NSW introduced Australia’s first dedicated police teams focused on targeting high-risk DV offenders and the 2018-19 NSW budget allocated $44.1 million in new funding for initiatives to tackle domestic violence re-offending.

NSW Attorney General Mark Speakman said NSW’s total investment to tackle the issue is now more than $390 million over four years.

Minister for the Prevention of Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault Pru Goward said there is "always more work to do and we will continue to provide more support services and accommodation options for domestic and family violence victims”.


https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/more-than-40-per-cent-of-nsw-murders-now-family-violence-related-20180706-p4zpw4.html
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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby HBS Guy » 07 Jul 2018, 14:48

Why the hell does Pru Goward have anything to do with this area? Bloody useless she is!
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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby Bongalong » 07 Jul 2018, 15:48

Who cares about anything?

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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby pinkeye » 08 Jul 2018, 00:52

A recent study found a quarter of intimate partner homicides were committed by men subject to DV orders.
Domestic and family violence has been linked to 41 per cent of all murders in NSW since 2013.
Two teenagers killed by their estranged father in Sydney's north will be added to the toll and filed with more than 30,000 other reports of domestic or family violence made to police each year


the main problem is a "matter of resources, on all levels, with the workload, there aren't enough courts, there aren't enough magistrates".

The most common targets are partners, but 3459 children were victims of domestic assault in the most recent 12 months of police data, which also recorded 15 murderers in family homes between April 2017 and March 2018. Three of the 15 people charged with murder in these cases were female, most of the offenders were aged between 20-39 and five victims were aged over 60.
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AND tonight we hear again, of the death of a woman and the missing children in Cranbourne Vic.
Oh..:) just heard the children have been found safe.

PEOPLE..? does all this death and destruction at the hands of family men, sit right with you.?/

Seems some people can excuse this by blaming women. But, that is so much BS. Its up to men to stop killing women and children.!!!


Nothing about ranting anti-feminists makes any sense, in this context.


NOW.. IF MALES were getting killed by (their) women on the same basis...??? can you imagine...? All males would become Muslim. :bgrin

FUCKING HELL.... where is this going to end..? Or... will men just keep killing their wives and children, because they BELIEVE they are entitled, betrayed, whatever the excuse?.... all the MEN and the occassional delusional woman, should be severely dealt with.

Then we have mental capacity, to consider.

Are Men going homicidally balistic against their families because;
1) they are mentally insane?
2) they are narcissists who honestly believe everyone else is there for their use (ie insane like Trump)
3) they are cruel bastards who only care about themselves
4)their feelings were hurt
5) their wife divorced them and took them to the cleaners????
6)their wife stole the children??

I mean honestly??
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Seems men have got lots of reasons to kill their wives and children.
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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby pinkeye » 08 Jul 2018, 00:54

HBS Guy wrote:Why the hell does Pru Goward have anything to do with this area? Bloody useless she is!


Minister for the Prevention of Domestic Violence and Sexual Assault Pru Goward said there is "always more work to do and we will continue to provide more support services and accommodation options for domestic and family violence victims”.

You're entitled to say what you like, but do try to make some logical comment. Please. ! :roll
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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby pinkeye » 08 Jul 2018, 01:00

Bongalong wrote:Who cares about anything?

Copper internet for the clever country that just had a once in a century mining boom anyone ???? :beer

Yay, go baby boomers :tweed


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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby mothra » 08 Jul 2018, 01:27

pinkeye wrote:
Seems some people can excuse this by blaming women. But, that is so much BS. Its up to men to stop killing women and children.!!!


Nothing about ranting anti-feminists makes any sense, in this context.





The anti-feminist rants are of the same monster as the poor white male bullshit.

IIf they had to think about it too hard, they would be made to feel uncomfortable. So much easier to hate on the people asking them to question themselves.
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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby mothra » 08 Jul 2018, 01:33

pinkeye wrote:
Are Men going homicidally balistic against their families because;
1) they are mentally insane?
2) they are narcissists who honestly believe everyone else is there for their use (ie insane like Trump)
3) they are cruel bastards who only care about themselves
4)their feelings were hurt
5) their wife divorced them and took them to the cleaners????
6)their wife stole the children??

I mean honestly??
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Seems men have got lots of reasons to kill their wives and children.


There are so many factors but the one truth is there is something very wrong with the messages men are getting if a goodly percentage of them are doing these things.

Feminism speaks to this ... but the message is resented.

What we need is more good, thoughtful, mature and developed men who are not victims of toxic masculinity ... even better, men who have fought their way through it .... to stand up and be damn leaders. Women can't keep carrying this. At best we are ignored or ridiculed ... at worst we are assaulted and killed.

Good men need to stand the fuck up.
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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby pinkeye » 08 Jul 2018, 02:09

Fucking Oath mate.

Another 1? or is it 2? dead women have been found. If it isn't 2 more women killed by men now, it soon will be. :sad :sad

Now this is becoming THE defining issue of our society.. ( inclusive? child abuse.? )

Now/// police CANNOT protect women. Women have to stand up for themselves. It is astonishing just how much damage a woman can receive from her partner, and continue. BUT... I think when the man turns his attention to the young daughter,,, THEN... THEN
a woman will ACT.

A man can get pissed and fight with his fellow males, and unless someone dies... hey ? Boys will be BOYS.! :roll They can abuse verbally, and rough and tumble, and its OK.

When he kills his wife, and/or children... hey he was a good bloke.


No way. !!


People like Senator Leyonhelm are proof positive that these attitudes are alive and well in OUR GOVERNMENT. And... society, as seen by males.
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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby mothra » 08 Jul 2018, 02:20

I was watching Mystery Road (damn good, recommend) and there was an interesting plot line about a young man found killed in a waterhole. His mother, flying in from the city, wanted to have some kind of memorial for her son at the waterhole (the only one for 300k, btw).

For those that missed it, the investigating officer was also a daughter of the family that "owned" that waterhole, managed by her brother.

Our officer told a group of Aunties about it, only to be told that that waterhole was sorry business, so no memorial would be okay by them.

Our officer didn't press, only went and did her homework and discovered that 100 odd years prior, her patriarch had poisoned a group of Aboriginal people in dispute over the waterhole ... he wanted it for his cattle, they just wanted to live and stuff.

She, mortified, went to her brother and told him about it, only to be met by "Well i didn't do it. It was a century ago. Get over it".

She went to an Auntie, told her she now knew (the Aboriginal people never forgot) and declared her regret and impotence. The Aunty told her that her acknowledgement was powerful in itself.

And herein lies the lesson, boys and girls. Acknowledgement. I don't feel "white guilt" but i am profoundly aware of my privilege and understand fully that that has come at a great cost to others.

It's not about taking responsibility ... it's about saying "Hey, you're not crazy. I understand why you feel ripped off".

Didn't their parents ever teach them that? I've taught my children that if you hurt someone, you say sorry ... even if it wasn't their fault, or an accident or whatever.

Acknowledgement. Heals wounds.
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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby mothra » 08 Jul 2018, 02:24

pinkeye wrote:Fucking Oath mate.

Another 1? or is it 2? dead women have been found. If it isn't 2 more women killed by men now, it soon will be. :sad :sad

Now this is becoming THE defining issue of our society.. ( inclusive? child abuse.? )

Now/// police CANNOT protect women. Women have to stand up for themselves. It is astonishing just how much damage a woman can receive from her partner, and continue. BUT... I think when the man turns his attention to the young daughter,,, THEN... THEN
a woman will ACT.

A man can get pissed and fight with his fellow males, and unless someone dies... hey ? Boys will be BOYS.! :roll They can abuse verbally, and rough and tumble, and its OK.

When he kills his wife, and/or children... hey he was a good bloke.


No way. !!


People like Senator Leyonhelm are proof positive that these attitudes are alive and well in OUR GOVERNMENT. And... society, as seen by males.



Oh yes, those attitudes are alive. You only need to see the outpouring of hate directed at women after Eurydice was horribly killed. Even defacing her memorial as an "attack on feminism".

People will do absolutely anything to avoid introspection.
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Postby pinkeye » 08 Jul 2018, 02:31

easier to blame than to consider truth.

Hasn't this always been the way our society operates.?
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Postby mothra » 08 Jul 2018, 02:35

pinkeye wrote:easier to blame than to consider truth.

Hasn't this always been the way our society operates.?


Indeed ... but it's changing ... and they are rebelling. Even rusted on leftists bemoan PC rubbish, totally overlooking the point.

My fear is the backlash is too powerful. And it's gaining momentum. Like, actual Nazis are back.
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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby pinkeye » 08 Jul 2018, 02:54

ahhh the backlash.
Once again women will be continually killed... just like now, if they refuse to be dominated. It really IS up to our Law enforcement and LAW itself, to right the wrongs. We, as women, are not allowed to protect ourselves or our children, because THAT IS THE POLICE's JOB,.!!


Well, given how many women and children are dying evry week at the hands of the male in the family? WTF can they do? Pick up the bodies. !!


That is all LAW can do.

PEOPLE MUST do BETTER.
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Postby mothra » 08 Jul 2018, 03:07

I see it in my kids and their friends. There is so much more acceptance and understanding of footprints in the kids. It's like they are holding us to account for our ideals and demanding their consistent application.

But they are being met with incredible violence. Some of the more vulnerable among them are falling prey to it, as has always been the way.

But with Trump being applauded for mocking the metoo campaign thunderously, the little hairs on the back of my head stand up.

Countless Men's Rights movements ... not a one of them actually serving the interests of men ... just perpetuating the patriarchy ... which hurts men as much as it hurts women.
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Postby pinkeye » 08 Jul 2018, 05:04

Countless Men's Rights movements ... not a one of them actually serving the interests of men ... just perpetuating the patriarchy ... which hurts men as much as it hurts women. ( Mothra)



It is a conundrum, indeed. I wonder if you saw Compass (ABC) today?


Two historians, (women) are looking at the Bible, in particular, the texts and other relics which exist from the time of Jesus Christ.


They are saying, so far, that Mary Magdalene was one of several female apostles... Joanna and Susanah are other women mentioned in the gospel of Luke.

That they were equal in status to the male apostles, AND, in LUKE, it says these three women, and implied others un-named supplied the needs of Christ and the male apostles, out of their own resources.

These historians are saying that powerful and rich women, made the Christian movement possible .... and then were written out of history.

Fascinating. Seems women were in fact equal.... and the next program next week continues with the discovery of a female Bishop, ... and looks at why the Roman Catholic Church has changed the story, so that Men were pre-eminant.


Really very interesting, but..?? :roll no surprise to me. :bgrin
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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby johnsmith » 08 Jul 2018, 08:08

those numbers are disturbing.
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Hanson supports those so–called Mens’ Rights movements.
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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

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HBS Guy wrote:Hanson supports those so–called Mens’ Rights movements.



Why doesn't that surprise me?

Pathetic, desperate women like her often do. They make everything harder.
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HBS Guy wrote:Hanson supports those so–called Mens’ Rights movements.



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Postby pinkeye » 10 Jul 2018, 00:52

hear hear


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Postby Bongalong » 10 Jul 2018, 12:50

pinkeye wrote:
Bongalong wrote:Who cares about anything?

Copper internet for the clever country that just had a once in a century mining boom anyone ???? :beer

Yay, go baby boomers :tweed


Fuck off Drah. Else keep to the topic. Yeah yeah, most of us now are becoming clear on the fiasco that is NBN. Hey.. fuckhead I've been living with it for over 2 years now, and not a day goes by, without a dropout, a failure to connect, and there goes my landline as well. Once the only reliable outside connection.. now not even that. SUCKS BIGTIME, BUT pls don't go off-topic like that. its spurious, specious, and very disrespectful to ALL. But especially women and children. Spit your shit in the right palaces, yeah.?

You dare to say you keep on topic? You're off your rocking chair ya dumb c***!
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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby Bongalong » 10 Jul 2018, 12:52

mothra wrote:
pinkeye wrote:
Seems some people can excuse this by blaming women. But, that is so much BS. Its up to men to stop killing women and children.!!!


Nothing about ranting anti-feminists makes any sense, in this context.





The anti-feminist rants are of the same monster as the poor white male bullshit.

IIf they had to think about it too hard, they would be made to feel uncomfortable. So much easier to hate on the people asking them to question themselves.

Did women get draughted to war?

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Bongalong wrote:
mothra wrote:
pinkeye wrote:
Seems some people can excuse this by blaming women. But, that is so much BS. Its up to men to stop killing women and children.!!!


Nothing about ranting anti-feminists makes any sense, in this context.





The anti-feminist rants are of the same monster as the poor white male bullshit.

IIf they had to think about it too hard, they would be made to feel uncomfortable. So much easier to hate on the people asking them to question themselves.

Did women get draughted to war?

:tweed :Hi :Hi :Hi :Hi :Hi :Hi :Hi :Hi :Hi



who's decision was that Drah? :gup :gup :gup
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Re: More than 40 per cent of NSW murders now DV related

Postby Bongalong » 10 Jul 2018, 12:56

johnsmith wrote:
Bongalong wrote:
mothra wrote:
pinkeye wrote:
Seems some people can excuse this by blaming women. But, that is so much BS. Its up to men to stop killing women and children.!!!


Nothing about ranting anti-feminists makes any sense, in this context.





The anti-feminist rants are of the same monster as the poor white male bullshit.

IIf they had to think about it too hard, they would be made to feel uncomfortable. So much easier to hate on the people asking them to question themselves.

Did women get draughted to war?

:tweed :Hi :Hi :Hi :Hi :Hi :Hi :Hi :Hi :Hi



who's decision was that Drah? :gup :gup :gup

Can't mothra stand up for her own precious hole?
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